Woolwich-Killing

[GBJ]

I'm saying it because we don't have the resources to put all the people that have/are been under suspicion under constant surveillance.

Simple solution, if you're suspected it's deportation/jail time. Ta-ta.

Says who? They loose the right to be British when they become a threat to the nations security. Or we can jail them altough from what I hear Muslim gangs control most of the bigger jails anyway so maybe that is no use.

The foreigners, I'd say bye-bye. The ones who were born here, hello steel hotel.

Oooh Dave, that is very dangerous ground. If they were born in Britain and hold British passports as a result, how can they possibly lose the right to be British? Are you suggesting they forfeit the right to live in this land?

Blimey, I'm as right wing as many on here, but I can't see how you can ever legally tell people born here that they have lost the right to live here.

They've certainly lost their right to live freely in this land.

They have committed treason. They have forfeited their citizenship and their right to live here. If we had any balls whatsoever, we would ensure that they had forfeited their right to live.

This. For the sake of all those who have been effected by the extremist dinlows, and for all those who will potentially be affected by them.

Prevention, not punishment

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

My original post was my own opinion, respectfully argued, and made without any attempt to offend anyone on this forum. You've since resorted to portraying me as something that I'm not, and your last clever retort was a smiley flipping me the bird; isn't it about time you grew up old timer and allow the fact that not everybody has to agree with your/The Guardians opinion.

I will not reply again to this nonsense, but will more than happy to take this onto private message if you're calling it on.

I prefer to debate (and not just exchange insults) in public,thanks.

(Although, I'd be interested to know what you think I've portrayed you as and what you think you're not)?

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

People who support or have any affiliation with the EDL are severely intellectually challenged. They are also quite likely to fiddle with dogs.

Rusty will verify this.

Yeah, I'm the one with the intellect problem when I don't focus on the protest rather than the actual decapitation of a serviceman. I also think you will find that the chaps on the other side of this debate are the more likely to be ****ing animals. Their wives (and daughters) for openers.

 

[farawayshrimper]

Simple solution, if you're suspected it's deportation/jail time. Ta-ta.

That is insane, I believe that our justice system is too lenient but everybody deserve the right to a trial, suspicion is not enough. If we go to that system the government/police could throw anybody away they wanted.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I prefer to debate (and not just exchange insults) in public,thanks.

(Although, I'd be interested to know what you think I've portrayed you as and what you think you're not).

First time for everything I suppose

 

[DTS]

That is insane, I believe that our justice system is too lenient but everybody deserve the right to a trial, suspicion is not enough. If we go to that system the government/police could throw anybody away they wanted.

Agreed but I think where terrorism is concerned we need more lenient.

 

[Crawliano]

How's the for a solution?

Make all these pricks involved in terrorism plots watch The Voice or something.

Worse than waterboarding that.

 

[applelover]

Classic quote from Josephine public "when our soldiers are being attacked it proves that we (white people) are second class citizens in our own country.

This murder is a shocking incident. However I do not believe that these isolated incidents of terrorism carried out by religious lunatics in themselves pose a significant long term threat to our country. The IRA, for instance, were a much bigger threat.

Indeed the danger lies in our reaction to it. Any reaction based on the sentiment in the above quote represents a far bigger danger.

 

[applelover]

Rusty. Your flag suggests that you have become a Zionist these days but I'm sure you used to be a fascist??? How does that work for you?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The wonders of multiculturalism. Thanks Tony Blair... :finger2:

Please note, there is a world of difference between multiculturalism and political Islam or Islamism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiculturalism


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I prefer to debate (and not just exchange insults) in public,thanks.

(Although, I'd be interested to know what you think I've portrayed you as and what you think you're not)?

First time for everything I suppose

Interesting that you chose to come back with a snide comment rather than answer the question I asked.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Rusty. Your flag suggests that you have become a Zionist these days but I'm sure you used to be a fascist??? How does that work for you?

Fascism is a deplorable cousin of the equally dastardly ideology that is socialism, and I loathe them both with a passion. I have always been a passionate supporter of Israel and her perilous fight against the Arab fascists and their apologists. Don't really see anything to be confused about there.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Classic quote from Josephine public "when our soldiers are being attacked it proves that we (white people) are second class citizens in our own country.

This murder is a shocking incident. However I do not believe that these isolated incidents of terrorism carried out by religious lunatics in themselves pose a significant long term threat to our country. The IRA, for instance, were a much bigger threat.

Indeed the danger lies in our reaction to it. Any reaction based on the sentiment in the above quote represents a far bigger danger.

Good grief. So we shouldn't react to the decapitation of our servicemen because it might upset the multicultural applecart? These animals are a danger to our country and our way of life, as are the Muslim enclaves developing all over Europe.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Rusty. Your flag suggests that you have become a Zionist these days but I'm sure you used to be a fascist??? How does that work for you?

Fascism is a deplorable cousin of the equally dastardly ideology that is socialism, and I loathe them both with a passion. I have always been a passionate supporter of Israel and her perilous fight against the Arab fascists and their apologists. Don't really see anything to be confused about there.

I imagine Applelover was referring to your (self-admitted) past membership of the EDL, rather than your present support for Zionism.

It's certainly an extreme right-wing organisation, albeit not necessarily an overtly Fascist one.

 

[DTS]

Interesting stat on news night that 20% of the terrorist attacks in since 2003 have direct links back to Anjem Choudray and his organisation al-Muhajiroun.

 

[Beefy]

I've been thinking about this a lot today and it struck me just how far we've come post 9/11. Could anyone on here honestly have envisaged 12 years ago that they would, in their own lifetime, see the day when a British citizen was attacked, beheaded and have his body dragged across a London street by Radical Islamist

Perhaps "the West" should also get its house in order? Finally pulling out of Afghanistan will hopefully be a good start.

****ing hell. I can't believe these terrorist scumbags have made me agree with BarnaBlue about something.

If we weren't waging two ridiculous, pointless, un-winnable wars for no reason whatsoever other than $$$ then yesterday wouldn't have happened and thousands of people including many brave British and American servicemen and women would be alive today.

RIP Lee Rigby.

 

[BaileytheQuitter]

It wasn't a racially provoked attack for a start and as unpopular and uncalled for the EDL protest was, it is still a right of this country to have that right to protest.

I'm not talking about the EDL, if they wish to protest they are fully within their rights to do so. I'm addressing the completely irrational response from a large percentage of the public who are directly blame to Islam has a whole.

At no point did I reference the EDL.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Interesting that you chose to come back with a snide comment rather than answer the question I asked.

It's all you deserve

 

[OldBlueLady]

It's all you deserve

Oh pack it in! This thread is not the place for your petty squabbling, have some respect.

 

[farawayshrimper]

I've read a few papers from the U.S.A reporting this, a common theme is they believe the soldier should have been armed to protect himself, maybe I am missing something but how could a gun of protected him from being run over and then killed? If guns were legal heaven knows the damage that the terrorists could have done. am I missing something here?