Transfer News, Gossip & Speculation Summer/Autumn Transfer Targets/Rumours Thread 2022

[Chalky]

Daggers have a £1.6m budget this season I believe.

I would say Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts, Daggers all certainly have a bigger budget than us. So we will be around 5th at best.

Solihul don't mate. Chesterfield yes, Nott's yes, Wrexham 100% yes obviously. But Daggers are very competitive but I wasn't aware of that high. Let me go check that one

 

[Ghost of C.F.]

I struggle to believe it. Wrexham and Chesterfield instantly make up the 90% claim.

Solihull and Dagenham both allegedly paying far more than us too. Dagenham almost proven last week.

I believe you that ours is £1.4m but I do not believe at all that only 1 or 2 clubs are beating that.

Surely, the position was £1.4m last season . This season its down to £0.9m . Loads of players have left and few joined . And 0.9m is a lot higher than £0.65m so we should still be in with a shout for promotion .

 

[Texas Eslan]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned already or if there is already an answer on here but I seem to recall that when the stadium construction was started there was a release of funds that would also benefit the team. Have I got this wrong? If not anyone here got any info?

My post seems to have kicked off a budget debate which wasn’t really what I had hoped! Just wondered my understanding that the start of works on the stadium and facilities triggered a release of funds to boost the squad? Or if that was built into the initial budget already set.

 

[Chalky]

Daggers have a £1.6m budget this season I believe.

I would say Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts, Daggers all certainly have a bigger budget than us. So we will be around 5th at best.

Solihul don't mate. Chesterfield yes, Nott's yes, Wrexham 100% yes obviously. But Daggers are very competitive but I wasn't aware of that high. Let me go check that one

Yep, Smiffy is right. Just been told that Daggers number is correct, also been told Bromley's which was surprisingly quite high...

I would have to do some more research and digging but I do believe we will be around 6th or joint 5th on player expenditure.

 

[Chalky]

My post seems to have kicked off a budget debate which wasn’t really what I had hoped! Just wondered my understanding that the start of works on the stadium and facilities triggered a release of funds to boost the squad? Or if that was built into the initial budget already set.

It's a very valid question. I am not sure if and when the salary cap of £1.5m will come into play. If it does it only allows us to deploy an extra £100,000 - £150,000 wiggle room. I am also not sure how the salary cap will be structured, will it be based on an overall cap or unique percentage to a clubs turnover.

If you or anyone can, is it possible to link me where Ron said about having access to release more funds depending on stadium progress? I didn't see this.

 

[Medway Blue]

Seriously, trust me Solihull absolutely no where near a £1.4m budget.

They operate on just below £1m, Their manager Neal Ardley has said this publicly.

It's not a big secret. Its easy to find out, just skim through clubs accounts. Most owners/Directors of football release it openly.

Bromley aren't far off us, if not higher. Similar Boreham Wood. They're both bankrolled by wealthy individuals and are paying Michael Cheek and Josh Rees respectively over £2,500 per week which we cannot do. Solihull paying Sbarra and Dallas very good money and again, got wealthy backing. Dorking have wealthy backing, pay silly money and Alfie Rutherford is supposedly being paid a little less than £3k per week. I know a single player's wages aren't generally a definitive guide to overall budget, but it gives an idea. Scunny and Oldham will surely have a budget similar to ours having dropped out of the EFL, if not higher again. York will be spending good money too.

I'd put Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts Co and Daggers ahead of us for definite. I strongly suspect Solihull, Boreham Wood and Bromley will have bigger budgets than we do. And I wouldn't be surprised if Dorking and York are close too. And that's before you even consider Oldham and Scunny.

I don't dispute the £1.4m, but I am 99% sure that there are more than 2 or 3 clubs ahead of us. 6 or 7 are throwing around silly money this summer. I'd put us between 7th and 10th in the budget league table. Losing Mussa to Daggers may have been a wake-up call to some people who were perhaps in stubborn/arrogant denial about financial competition/spending power in this division, so perhaps we won't be 7th-10th for much longer. Who knows?

 

[Texas Eslan]

It's a very valid question. I am not sure if and when the salary cap of £1.5m will come into play. If it does it only allows us to deploy an extra £100,000 - £150,000 wiggle room. I am also not sure how the salary cap will be structured, will it be based on an overall cap or unique percentage to a clubs turnover.

If you or anyone can, is it possible to link me where Ron said about having access to release more funds depending on stadium progress? I didn't see this.

Thanks Chalky. In all honesty I am trying to confirm it as well as I have something in the back of my head that it was suggested but can’t remember if it was on a Trust call, supporters call or a press release (if at all).

 

[FarmdogSUFC]

It’s an interesting point on other clubs budgets. I think people would be surprised at what some of the other clubs in our league are throwing around

 

[Chalky]

Bromley aren't far off us, if not higher. Similar Boreham Wood. They're both bankrolled by wealthy individuals and are paying Michael Cheek and Josh Rees respectively over £2,500 per week which we cannot do. Solihull paying Sbarra and Dallas very good money and again, got wealthy backing. Dorking have wealthy backing, pay silly money and Alfie Rutherford is supposedly being paid a little less than £3k per week. I know a single player's wages aren't generally a definitive guide to overall budget, but it gives an idea. Scunny and Oldham will surely have a budget similar to ours having dropped out of the EFL, if not higher again. York will be spending good money too.

I'd put Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts Co and Daggers ahead of us for definite. I strongly suspect Solihull, Boreham Wood and Bromley will have bigger budgets than we do. And I wouldn't be surprised if Dorking and York are close too. And that's before you even consider Oldham and Scunny.

I don't dispute the £1.4m, but I am 99% sure that there are more than 2 or 3 clubs ahead of us. 6 or 7 are throwing around silly money this summer. I'd put us between 7th and 10th in the budget league table. Losing Mussa to Daggers may have been a wake-up call to some people regarding financial competition in this division, so perhaps we won't be 7th-10th for much longer. Who knows?

Dorking is a good point, I had not factored them in yet. Their owner really chucks the money at it. Have great sponsors as well.

You said it yourself about a single players wages aren't a overriding conclusion on budgets, for example I know Torquay couple seasons back had a situation where they had a wealthy fan who happily sponsored for 2 players who had big wages covered by his business, and the rest of the squad was on the bare minimum.

That's what I believe Solihull are doing, I know they are operating on about £1m yearly player expenditure. They were one of the clubs after Dan Mooney, but we offered more.

Yep, Daggers chucking crazy money around as well. But they wont last at those levels for long, money and resource has to be backed on actual tangibles after a long enough sample size. They are never going to achiever higher than league 2 due to area population competing with literally every other london club, let alone just East side. Average gate about 1,500.

 

[Petejames]

Bromley aren't far off us, if not higher. Similar Boreham Wood. They're both bankrolled by wealthy individuals and are paying Michael Cheek and Josh Rees respectively over £2,500 per week which we cannot do. Solihull paying Sbarra and Dallas very good money and again, got wealthy backing. Dorking have wealthy backing, pay silly money and Alfie Rutherford is supposedly being paid a little less than £3k per week. I know a single player's wages aren't generally a definitive guide to overall budget, but it gives an idea. Scunny and Oldham will surely have a budget similar to ours having dropped out of the EFL, if not higher again. York will be spending good money too.

I'd put Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts Co and Daggers ahead of us for definite. I strongly suspect Solihull, Boreham Wood and Bromley will have bigger budgets than we do. And I wouldn't be surprised if Dorking and York are close too. And that's before you even consider Oldham and Scunny.

I don't dispute the £1.4m, but I am 99% sure that there are more than 2 or 3 clubs ahead of us. 6 or 7 are throwing around silly money this summer. I'd put us between 7th and 10th in the budget league table. Losing Mussa to Daggers may have been a wake-up call to some people regarding financial competition in this division, so perhaps we won't be 7th-10th for much longer. Who knows?

I wonder how much of that budget we have Left 16 players left last season and only 5 so far in … some top earners went aswell in ogogo and James dunne …. Plenty left in the kitty?

 

[Texas Eslan]

In terms of budget though I genuinely hope above everything else that we have set a sensible, achievable budget that won’t come back to bite us if we don’t get promoted.

As others have said above, promotion can be achieved on a lower budget than what the likes of Wrexham and Chesterfield are throwing around.

I personally think it is quite exciting seeing what unknown/lesser known gems we can dig up and hopefully one of them will turn into a cash cow which will help fund future seasons.

 

[Medway Blue]

Dorking is a good point, I had not factored them in yet. Their owner really chucks the money at it. Have great sponsors as well.

You said it yourself about a single players wages aren't a overriding conclusion on budgets, for example I know Torquay couple seasons back had a situation where they had a wealthy fan who happily sponsored for 2 players who had big wages covered by his business, and the rest of the squad was on the bare minimum.

That's what I believe Solihull are doing, I know they are operating on about £1m yearly player expenditure. They were one of the clubs after Dan Mooney, but we offered more.

Yep, Daggers chucking crazy money around as well. But they wont last at those levels for long, money and resource has to be backed on actual tangibles after a long enough sample size. They are never going to achiever higher than league 2 due to area population competing with literally every other london club, let alone just East side. Average gate about 1,500.

Absolutely. Wealdstone are funding Kretzschmar via a whip around from a group of wealthy fans. It does happen. But in the cases of Bromley, Boreham Wood, etc. That's not the case. A single player's wages is not a definite indication of overall budget but in most cases it will be a good guide because it's unsustainable to have too big a spread of individual player wages at this level and with these kinds of budget.

It's not all about wages either. Solihull might only have a £1m wage budget, but they have been able to offer 6-figure fees for players this summer.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

It doesn't matter how much money a club has. There is a cap across the division

 

[Bay Shrimper]

For me, with over 55 years watching SUFC, these two are my least favourite ever players.

Mohsni Bilel was one of my favourite men in blue. Never a dull moment and put himself about and scored goals. Absolutely loved him

 

[SUFCGoals]

Dorking don't even throw money at it. Like Dave said above, one or two players on a decent wage doesn't mean the club is minted. You'll find Dorking actually signed most of their squad from leagues below.

Yes their owner/manager is wealthy but by no means does he pump a tonne of money into the club.

 

[Medway Blue]

Dorking don't even throw money at it. Like Dave said above, one or two players on a decent wage doesn't mean the club is minted. You'll find Dorking actually signed most of their squad from leagues below.

Yes their owner/manager is wealthy but by no means does he pump a tonne of money into the club.

No it doesn't, but it can be a good indication. Even if it doesn't mean the club is "minted" or that the owner "pumps money in", one thing is for sure......people need to get any notion that the likes of Dorking, Bromley, Daggers, Boreham Wood and Solihull cannot compete with us financially for transfers out of their heads. It's not the case.

 

[Mr Browns Ghost]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned already or if there is already an answer on here but I seem to recall that when the stadium construction was started there was a release of funds that would also benefit the team. Have I got this wrong? If not anyone here got any info?

No you were fooled .. it’d made mo difference what so ever it was never going to …

 

[Mr Browns Ghost]

I do recall Ron saying that yes

He they certainly eluded to it on many occasions

 

[Thundersley Blue]

The size of a budget matters little, it is what you do with whatever money is available that counts. I would back our management team to make the most of the money that is available to them. We are not going to miss out on a play off place, just because we have spent less than a rival.

Wrexham had an unlimited budget last season and I wouldn't say Phil Parkinson made best use of it. Which goes to prove money isn't the be all and end all of everything. By and large they have signed players nearing the end of their careers and looking for one last pay day. Doesn't work as we have found out in past seasons.

We will go close this season, I genuinely believe that Kevin and Co will succeed, but patience will be needed.

 

[ColinMorrisWalksOnWater]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1546539842514964480

Wealdstone announce signing of Ex-Braintree, Lincoln and Grimsby LB/LWB Sam Habergham, now aged 30.