So when will RM give us all an update on FF?

[Ayrshire Blue]

I'd forgotten how depressing this place was close season :zzzzz:

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I'd forgotten how depressing this place was close season :zzzzz:

Did you not see the discussions on our strikers whilst we were in the play off zone with a few games to go? This is happy valley in comparison!

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

The new Sainsbury megastore to be built at RH must have vast profit potential that puts the cost of FF etc into the shade. If not why bother? There may not be an earthmover at FF currently but nor does there appear to be one with whoever at Sainsburys is dealing with all of this.

The obstacles at the moment appear to be mere bagatelle in the grand scheme of things and I cant help but feel that the delays we are witnessing serve a purpose somewhere. If Sainsburys are shelling out for the new stadium and want things to get a move on I am sure they would have found a way in their own interests.

For me the delays cannot be causing undue concern to some parties and may even be desired.

The most worrying thing I've heard recently is the big four - Sainsbury's, Asda, Morrisons and Tesco are all taking a bashing from the likes of Aldi and Lidl. Down sizing is the new in word and not mega stores. Quite where this leaves us is anybody's guess.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Did you not see the discussions on our strikers whilst we were in the play off zone with a few games to go? This is happy valley in comparison!

Have you been watching Happy Valley on the beeb? finished now but was really excellent!

 

[teabee1]

The most worrying thing I've heard recently is the big four - Sainsbury's, Asda, Morrisons and Tesco are all taking a bashing from the likes of Aldi and Lidl. Down sizing is the new in word and not mega stores. Quite where this leaves us is anybody's guess.

Maybe there is your answer... It's Sainsbury's who are holding up the development not RM..

 

[Chairman Trigg]

What happens if they were to pull out ?.Ron must be in debt to them £5 mill .Could explain why things have gone quiet .Thought Ron had stated that the development had to start this year......or was it in 2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013!

Maybe there is your answer... It's Sainsbury's who are holding up the development not RM..

 

[SUFCFANS]

At least it's still something to look forward to I suppose :)

 

[Wise Head]

Maybe there is your answer... It's Sainsbury's who are holding up the development not RM..

Why not blame Sainsburys as it's probably their turn in the blame game/excuse stakes. At various times it has been the council, Prospects college, the shops and anyone else who can be accused for the delay.
Ron seems to have little or no funds to put into this project and when the banks stopped near 100% lending in 2008 this was always going to be difficult to get off the ground. The only progress so far since 2008 has been backwards as Sainsburys have had to advance what must be well in excess of £5m to keep the club afloat, which has resulted in the absurd outcome to shelve the main stand.
I really hope for the best, but off the pitch we are in one huge hole at the present time.

 

[Supa Shrimpa]

The most sensible post, to date. Have Super Pizza sold up yet ?

 

[onceknownasrab]

Why not blame Sainsburys as it's probably their turn in the blame game/excuse stakes.

It is not about apportioning blame and the parties concerned do not need to make excuses. They are going about their legitimate business in the fashion that suits them best. It is a section of the fans that are pointing a finger with rage and indignation. At the end of the day football is a business and those businesses involved in this project will suit themselves and not pander to the demands of the fans who have almost no knowledge of the myriad of factors involved.

I am like most of you and wish the new stadium stood proudly and gleaming in the June sunshine. Just like the rest of you what I want has the significance of a Bluebottle hit in the eye by a floating **** particle emitted from the anus of a corporate fatcat.

 

[RHB]

Realistically I don't believe most on here expect the club to pander to fans demands. What would be nice is an update of what is happening. After all some here are probably shareholders in the club, some are season ticket holders and most go to support the club on a regular basis. It is normally good business sense to show your customers that you are doing things for their benefit so that they will continue to give you their custom. A brief update would not be unreasonable eh?

 

[onceknownasrab]

Realistically I don't believe most on here expect the club to pander to fans demands. What would be nice is an update of what is happening. After all some here are probably shareholders in the club, some are season ticket holders and most go to support the club on a regular basis. It is normally good business sense to show your customers that you are doing things for their benefit so that they will continue to give you their custom. A brief update would not be unreasonable eh?

In an ideal world I fully agree with you but as we have no choice but to dwell in the land of reality (with the exception of Mrs. Blue and Wiggy. Only joking:unsure:) then it is clear to see the fan is of little or no significance. This is principally true because even though the industry is reliant on the fans for revenue streams, the massive number of fans has never galvanised itself to take on the industry and gain influence.

You referred to the season ticket holders. If they were to be given a vote to accompany their season ticket then the industry would listen but in truth they are no more than a cash cow.

I too wish I knew more of what is going on but 'they' have neither the need or inclination to include me in their dealings.

 

[RHB]

In an ideal world I fully agree with you but as we have no choice but to dwell in the land of reality (with the exception of Mrs. Blue and Wiggy. Only joking:unsure:) then it is clear to see the fan is of little or no significance. This is principally true because even though the industry is reliant on the fans for revenue streams, the massive number of fans has never galvanised itself to take on the industry and gain influence.

You referred to the season ticket holders. If they were to be given a vote to accompany their season ticket then the industry would listen but in truth they are no more than a cash cow.

I too wish I knew more of what is going on but 'they' have neither the need or inclination to include me in their dealings.

Sadly, I think you are correct in your assessment, which. quite honestly, is a grim state of affairs. So.......assuming we are of little or no consequence then all that is left is to get the angst out of our systems on here, thank god for SZ as a self-help counselling service as no one else is listening apparently.

 

[onceknownasrab]

Sadly, I think you are correct in your assessment, which. quite honestly, is a grim state of affairs. So.......assuming we are of little or no consequence then all that is left is to get the angst out of our systems on here, thank god for SZ as a self-help counselling service as no one else is listening apparently.

Yes indeed. Thank the heavens for a place like SZ to vent our spleen. There is of course one grey area in my assessment and that is whether RM is purely a businessman or is also a fan. In my mind I believe he has succumbed to the inevitable seduction that is The Mighty Blues. I am perfectly sure he will, and quite rightly, pursue his business interest but I think some of what he will do will be tempered by the fact that like us he wants to see the club flourish.

 

[RHB]

Yes indeed. Thank the heavens for a place like SZ to vent our spleen. There is of course one grey area in my assessment and that is whether RM is purely a businessman or is also a fan. In my mind I believe he has succumbed to the inevitable seduction that is The Mighty Blues. I am perfectly sure he will, and quite rightly, pursue his business interest but I think some of what he will do will be tempered by the fact that like us he wants to see the club flourish.

I think I will wait until after Fossetts is complete and what Ron's exit plans are afterwards before I have an opinion on that statement. My heart wants to say yes I agree, but my head says wait and see.

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Us fans are too stupid to understand anything that comes out of Ron's mouth according to him so he obviously deems it a waste of his time.

 

[Tinks]

Like everyone else I am still a waiting the "parting of the sea" by the Messiah ( more commonly known as RM).
As others have highlighted surely there must come. Time when "time" runs out and I do ask myself this: if Sainsbury's have already stumped up some monies then, at some point they are going to want a return on that monies given as no-one can afford to actually give away a sum of around the five million mark

 

[Crowstone Crevette]

Just to set the record straight: Moses parted it, the Messiah walked on it.

 

[Special Blue]

Just to set the record straight: Moses parted it, the Messiah walked on it.

So what was Ron's part in the events?

 

[londonblue]

So what was Ron's part in the events?

He built the stadium so everyone could watch.