What is hacking you off today?

[Dave Smiths Love Child]

The kids were on a private escooter rather than a hire one. Basildon voted a week or 2 ago to ask Essex CC to end the escooter hire trial in Basildon

Regardless private or council they are a danger not fit for the road , nor the pavements
Let’s hope Essex CC take note, I doubt it as Basildon is just becoming worse week in week out, certain people should hold their heads in shame about the way it has fallen into a slum and just pound shops and beggars
**** heads by Iceland and police ignore , what a way to run a council

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

When are the government/ councils going to clamp down on e scooters
Saturday a 16 year old and 9 years old killed at Pitsea , driver drove away but now caught and on bail
I see kids two on an e scooter on roads and pavements having the no fear factor at high speeds
How many more are going to be killed before action is taken, at least make it law to wear a helmet may stop some deaths , but honestly to me it’s just a council money making scheme without little thought and bugger where they park them outside properties where they don’t live
My real pet hate is seeing wide load people on them rather than walk anywhere , then complain it’s their bloody glands making them wide load

Hang on, the kids were hit by a driver who then fled the scene and the scooters are the problem?

Sounds to me like cars and their drivers are the real menace.

 

[Dave Smiths Love Child]

Hang on, the kids were hit by a driver who then fled the scene and the scooters are the problem?

Sounds to me like cars and their drivers are the real menace.

Yes they are, not suitable for roads or pavement especially when TWO people on them
Not saying the car was the cause or not, but you have more chance staying alive in a car rather than an e scooter
Two young lives lost sadly

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Yes they are, not suitable for roads or pavement especially when TWO people on them
Not saying the car was the cause or not, but you have more chance staying alive in a car rather than an e scooter
Two young lives lost sadly

Two lives sadly lost because a car hit them.

They’d have had a significantly better chance of living (and not suffering catastrophic injuries) if they’d been hit by a bicycle or a pedestrian.

So the problem is the car.

It’s no use saying they’d have had better chance of staying alive in a car because at 16 and 9 years old they wouldn’t be able to drive a car.

So if changes need to be made to protect them from falling victims to car drivers it should be to restrict the rights of car drivers, not the other road users.

 

[Supershrimper]

Too many factors at play here which none of us have the facts. The only fact is it happened at 18:25 which by my reckoning would have been dark by then.

I'm not saying the driver of the vehicle is at fault or not (regardless of fault they should have stopped if they was aware they had hit them)

Almost every scooter I've seen that's private is black or dark coloured. The only brightly coloured ones I've seen are the private hire ones (green etc) Very rarely do I see a light on them. They can reach up to 15mph (although i believe this is the private hire speed limit with private ones potentiallly reaching 50mph if you spend the cash) and at that speed, with no helmet, if you was to have an accident it could potentially cause dome serious harm.

I see parents bringing thier kids to school on them causing people to dash out of the way as they ride on the pavement.

Why they are on sale when it's illegal to use unless on private roads is beyond me.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Irresponsible parents are part of the problem. Some will buy the e-scooters for their kids. Some will own an e-scooter themselves, and let their kids ride it with them, or even worse, the child riding it on their own. I've seen a few ridden to school by kids aged 12-15. Considering these private ones are illegal on public roads and foot paths, it's incredible how many are buzzing about. The biggest menace are the yooths dressed in black at night.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

Just to be on the safe side we tested - Bollocks!!!

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Hope the fans sitting next to you don't read this ( obviously if you knew them? ). Are your symptoms just like having a bad cold?.

 

[RHB]

Hope the fans sitting next to you don't read this ( obviously if you knew them? ). Are your symptoms just like having a bad cold?.

A cross between a bad cold and flu. Had we known it was Covid we wouldn't have gone, but it's easy to be wise after the event. We didn't know any of the supporters immediately around us and she wasn't sneezing at all then, so just a bit of a cold we thought.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

A cross between a bad cold and flu. Had we known it was Covid we wouldn't have gone, but it's easy to be wise after the event.

Out of interest did you both have the covid jab this winter?.

 

[RHB]

Out of interest did you both have the covid jab this winter?.

More than one mate, I'm immunosuppressed.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

More than one mate, I'm immunosuppressed.

Hoping the pair of you get well soon. Few weeks ago when the reports were that many Hosps were inundated with people who had flu & norovirus, covid was never mentioned!.
Just goes to show that it's still lurking out there?.

 

[PIERS]

Two lives sadly lost because a car hit them.

They’d have had a significantly better chance of living (and not suffering catastrophic injuries) if they’d been hit by a bicycle or a pedestrian.

So the problem is the car.

It’s no use saying they’d have had better chance of staying alive in a car because at 16 and 9 years old they wouldn’t be able to drive a car.

So if changes need to be made to protect them from falling victims to car drivers it should be to restrict the rights of car drivers, not the other road users.

We dont know the facts, buts its unlikely the car drove into an area where these E scooters are legally allowed. Unless they drove onto someones private property.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Was "persuaded" to go to the Matisse/Miro exhibition at the Miro foundation yesterday.Not much of a "culture vulture" (for the visual arts at least, leave that to Mrs Tangled who is)Still the cafe there & bookshops were good.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

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We dont know the facts, buts its unlikely the car drove into an area where these E scooters are legally allowed. Unless they drove onto someones private property.

You're right. It happened on a public road. There's already a petition up to improve road safety on that road. fix Street lighting, road markings repainted. The zebra crossing repainted, bushes trimmed, etc. On the other side, there's the illegal e-scooter riding on public roads.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

We dont know the facts, buts its unlikely the car drove into an area where these E scooters are legally allowed. Unless they drove onto someones private property.

True, but it sounds like the car wasn’t being driven legally either as the driver - who fled from the scene - has been charged with dangerous driving.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

So I was in the Sainsbury's Local, opposite the Tesco petrol station Southchurch Road today, when a young lady walks in and blatantly starts stuffing refrigerated food into obviously made for purpose, massive pouches inside her huge coat that swamped her. She took about 10 items, and a member of staff said 'That's enough now'', but she told him to f-off, and took a few more bits. It was all done within about a minute. Then calmly walked out. The member of staff said to another shopper watching, there's nothing he can do, the amount was too small for the police. He said her boyfriend came in earlier to do the same thing.

 

[Supershrimper]

So I was in the Sainsbury's Local, opposite the Tesco petrol station Southchurch Road today, when a young lady walks in and blatantly starts stuffing refrigerated food into obviously made for purpose, massive pouches inside her huge coat that swamped her. She took about 10 items, and a member of staff said 'That's enough now'', but she told him to f-off, and took a few more bits. It was all done within about a minute. Then calmly walked out. The member of staff said to another shopper watching, there's nothing he can do, the amount was too small for the police. He said her boyfriend came in earlier to do the same thing.

Customers can perform a citizens arrest, but i believe staff within shops are told to "let them leave" It's OK though, the shops budget for this and it's factored into the main supermarket and high street shops costs that general joe public actually paid.

The staff can take the coat, retrieve the items then hand the coat back.

If by accident an elbow accidently lands that is I believe called "just desserts"

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Customers can perform a citizens arrest, but i believe staff within shops are told to "let them leave" It's OK though, the shops budget for this and it's factored into the main supermarket and high street shops costs that general joe public actually paid.

The staff can take the coat, retrieve the items then hand the coat back.

If by accident an elbow accidently lands that is I believe called "just desserts"

Not now. It has to be an indictable offence, and stealing items under £200 is not. So exercising this power could lead to charges against you, especially if a struggle ensues, and the shoplifter gets injured.

 

[Supershrimper]

Not now. It has to be an indictable offence, and stealing items under £200 is not. So exercising this power could lead to charges against you, especially if a struggle ensues, and the shoplifter gets injured.

Low-value shoplifting, defined as theft from a shop of goods worth £200 or less, is considered a "summary-only" offence for the purposes of deciding the trial venue. This means it can be tried in the Magistrates' Court rather than the Crown Court1. However, it remains an "indictable" offence for other purposes, including those outlined in the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (which permits citizens’ arrests at section 24A, and warrantless searches at sections 18 and 32)

 

[pottster]

Customers can perform a citizens arrest, but i believe staff within shops are told to "let them leave" It's OK though, the shops budget for this and it's factored into the main supermarket and high street shops costs that general joe public actually paid.

The staff can take the coat, retrieve the items then hand the coat back.

If by accident an elbow accidently lands that is I believe called "just desserts"

One of the reasons supermarkets are pushing for online shopping more and more. The amount they must lose from shoplifting now must be significant. Tie in the cost of running one of the big stores as well, staff etc.