What is hacking you off today?

[RHB]

Normal moan sadly, the number of drivers currently driving that have faulty indicators that don't work when on, or approaching a roundabout. Total arsewipes!

 

[londonblue]

This story has gotten wildly out of control and turned into something it never was. The two boxers were born women. Nobody is claiming these two were born men, that's just people getting the wrong end of the stick on Twitter. The idea Algeria (an extremely anti-LGBT country) would put a trans women into the Olympics is ludicrous.

The issue is that the IBA claim to have found XY chromosomes, potentially meaning they are intersex (which basically means you were born with both male and female attributes similar to the Caster Semenya situation) however if you looked at their genitals you'd say they were women.

The IOC stopped recognising the IBA a few years ago (around the time a Putin ally was elected as IBA president and quickly started getting implicated in match fixing scandals) and say they don't trust the IBA tests (which they say are confidential, meaning the IOC can't validate them). Honestly there is good reason to be suspicious, the Algerian boxer fought without issue under the IBA for years (including winning a silver in the 2022 championships, odd they didn't have a problem with her then) yet for some reason a random gender test was called for just before fighting a Chinese boxer for gold. Even more bizarrely the IBA claim they also tested her in 2022 and got the same results, which raises the question why they needed to bother with testing in 2023 instead of just immediately banning her.

That's why the IOC are letting the two boxers compete, they think the IBA are lying. There's a lot of fake information going around claiming that the IOC is happy to let men fight women which isn't true.

Apparently she's been beaten 9 times in the past as well.

 

[JCB]

Apparently she's been beaten 9 times in the past as well.

The Italian woman took one punch and waved the white flag. Poor boxing technique regardless of the opponent (who is also a woman!)

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

The Italian woman took one punch and waved the white flag. Poor boxing technique regardless of the opponent (who is also a woman!)

No. He has XY, meaning he's a man.
Males have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes, which determines a person's biological sex. The male parent contributes the chromosome that determines the child's sex, with the male contributing either the X or Y chromosome and the female contributing one of her X chromosomes. If the male contributes his Y chromosome, the child will be male, and if he contributes his X chromosome, the child will be female.
This was a man against a woman. The IOC allowed it because they go by what the person declares themselves as, hoping for truthfulness. They will probably go by the chromosone test in the future because of the backlash. The face and shoulder muscles are a bit of a giveaway in this case.
Khalif does not have the 46 XY 5-ARD (5-alpha-reductase deficiency). that Semenya has got, the male and female condition, that southendkid is suggesting. He was banned from the IBA World Championships for being a man trying to box in the women's. They said he's welcome to box in the man's category, if he's good enough. Strangely he didn't sue. A reporter said he could have got over a Million pounds, if he's a woman. Instead he's got one over the IOC. A man has a minimum of 2.6 x punching power, over a woman. So he could win gold. People cheating in sport and the Olympics. Who'd have thought.
It's a bloke folks.

 

[JCB]

No. He has XY, meaning he's a man.
Males have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes, which determines a person's biological sex. The male parent contributes the chromosome that determines the child's sex, with the male contributing either the X or Y chromosome and the female contributing one of her X chromosomes. If the male contributes his Y chromosome, the child will be male, and if he contributes his X chromosome, the child will be female.
This was a man against a woman. The IOC allowed it because they go by what the person declares themselves as, hoping for truthfulness. They will probably go by the chromosone test in the future because of the backlash. The face and shoulder muscles are a bit of a giveaway in this case.
Khalif does not have the 46 XY 5-ARD (5-alpha-reductase deficiency). that Semenya has got, the male and female condition, that southendkid is suggesting. He was banned from the IBA World Championships for being a man trying to box in the women's. They said he's welcome to box in the man's category, if he's good enough. Strangely he didn't sue. A reporter said he could have got over a Million pounds, if he's a woman. Instead he's got one over the IOC. A man has a minimum of 2.6 x punching power, over a woman. So he could win gold. People cheating in sport and the Olympics. Who'd have thought.
It's a bloke folks.

The boxer in question agrees she’s a woman. Why can’t you? Do you really think Algeria would let a trans athlete represent them at the Olympics?

 

[WhiteNoise]

There’s no robust proof for the XY test either. She’s been tested multiple times and never found to have elevated levels of testosterone, or XY chromosomes in other genetic tests. The IBA are very dodgy and are Russian owned and this came directly after she beat a Russian.

Yet another example of how damaging misinformation is and ironically it’s a women who’s a victim here, and it’s not the Italian who dropped her hands.

 

[blues exile]

This whole sham controversy has been hijacked by the usual suspects with their pre-determined agenda. Both the two boxers under scrutiny by these culture war crazies were born women, are women, end of.

 

[WhiteNoise]

There is a trans man fighting in the men’s competition. You don’t hear people saying that maybe they should be in the women’s. They may have XX chromosomes.

As blues_exile says, it’s nothing about women’s safety and everything about an anti-trans culture war.

 

[Napster]

There is a trans man fighting in the men’s competition. You don’t hear people saying that maybe they should be in the women’s. They may have XX chromosomes.

As blues_exile says, it’s nothing about women’s safety and everything about an anti-trans culture war.

how about some actual facts

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819349587204743648

 

[Napster]

And here’s the United Nations

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818973075729170936

 

[Napster]

Sean Ingle, the chief sports reporter from the Guardian is reposting these - so it’s not a left/right issue but one of performance and safety.

 

[blues exile]

Never knew until now that participating in a boxing match might involve the risk of injury!

 

[WhiteNoise]

I think this is the best summary of the situation/history

 

[WhiteNoise]

Sorry those have posted in the incorrect order

 

[southendkid]

There’s no robust proof for the XY test either. She’s been tested multiple times and never found to have elevated levels of testosterone, or XY chromosomes in other genetic tests. The IBA are very dodgy and are Russian owned and this came directly after she beat a Russian.

Yet another example of how damaging misinformation is and ironically it’s a women who’s a victim here, and it’s not the Italian who dropped her hands.

The photos of her with people saying "obviously she's a man, look at her" are a bit weird as well. I've watched a bit of MMA in the past and I've seen women in that who look just as, if not more, masculine than her in photos (like in the image below). These are women that have trained for years to hit people hard, they're not going to look like your average woman on the street and looking more masculine than most women isn't proof of anything other than the fact they've put the hours in at the gym.

As others have said the only "evidence" that the Algerian is a woman comes from a corrupt boxing association run by one of Putin's mates who had let her fight for years without issue (including a year where she reached the final). Yet as soon as she beat a Russian in a fight suddenly a gender test came out of nowhere and she was disqualified. When questioned about it they claimed the results were valid because apparently they'd done the same test in 2022, which if true raises questions about why she was allowed to fight in the first place. Maybe the rest was real but given the circumstances around it I'm not surprised the IOC has serious doubts about what the IBA is claiming.

 

[Napster]

hopefully World Boxing which has replaced the IBA can clear it all up.

 

[Napster]

Never knew until now that participating in a boxing match might involve the risk of injury!

Did you miss the last few words of the UN reps tweet?

 

[blues exile]

Did you miss the last few words of the UN reps tweet?

If you choose to take part in a 'sport' where landing blows on the human body is the object, you can hardly complain if you end up punch drunk or worse

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

If you choose to take part in a 'sport' where landing blows on the human body is the object, you can hardly complain if you end up punch drunk or worse

It's not about them complaining about being hit or hurt, it's about a man identifying as a women competing against women, with that punching power advantage. One of the latest gender experts on TV has stated that people are overcomplicating things. He said that if you are born ant test XY, you are male with high testosterone levels, even if you were born with undescended testes or any other sex disorder. He said that person will have the strength of a man, not a woman.

 

[southendkid]

It's not about them complaining about being hit or hurt, it's about a man identifying as a women competing against women, with that punching power advantage. One of the latest gender experts on TV has stated that people are overcomplicating things. He said that if you are born ant test XY, you are male with high testosterone levels, even if you were born with undescended testes or any other sex disorder. He said that person will have the strength of a man, not a woman.

This is irrelevant if the gender test was fabricated to fix a competition.

Either way though she's had 51 fights and only won by KO 6 times, if her punches really were as powerful as that then it seems odd that 45 women were able to deal with them until it went to the judge's decision.