What is hacking you off today?

[Chrisb]

Disgusted with David Moyes. Fully aware what the player did, said afterwards, he selected him because he wanted to field the 'best team' and that he was 'one of our better players'.
So does that mean he will play a player no matter what he does off the field? Because Spam come first? Blimey, I bet he would have still played Mason Greenwood if he was still the Man U manager. Some things are bigger than football Mr Moyes.

I actually don't think (or perhaps prefer not to think) that this would happen at most other teams. I don't feel that Pep. Jurgen, Arteta, Howe, Lamps or others would points ahead of morals.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I actually don't think (or perhaps prefer not to think) that this would happen at most other teams. I don't feel that Pep. Jurgen, Arteta, Howe, Lamps or others would points ahead of morals.

That's why it's so shocking. I don't think it would have happened at any other Premiership club. If a manager made the mistake of picking the player, the Chairman would probably have stepped in. But then they have two shady Chairmen.

 

[blueblueblue]

That's why it's so shocking. I don't think it would have happened at any other Premiership club. If a manager made the mistake of picking the player, the Chairman would probably have stepped in. But then they have two shady Chairmen.

According to the BBC wedsite, he's available for this weekends game....

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

Govt Illegal Immigration Dept responding to the info i sent them, regarding someone whose visa expired over a year ago, & has ignored all Govt e-mails sent since. Gave them all the info on a plate, name, current address, passport no. & the reply i got was unreal.
They say they can't respond to any matter, without the person in question giving their written permission to report them!. WTF?. As if that is going to happen??.
Needless to say they got a 'heavy' reply from me, & surprise, surprise, haven't had a reply.
What a total disgrace?. And before any 'wise guy' makes a sarcastic reply about a Thai bride or what-ever, this is not directly to do with me, but trying to help a close associate, who has enough on their 'plate' with other matters, to pursue this.

 

[Userorange]

That's why it's so shocking. I don't think it would have happened at any other Premiership club. If a manager made the mistake of picking the player, the Chairman would probably have stepped in. But then they have two shady Chairmen.

I feel this is unfair. I suspect Moyes was put under pressure by his employer to deal with this swiftly and select Zouma to play - providing David you believe he deserves his place on football grounds. NO! NO! DAVID, we are NOT throwing you under the bus, merely deferring to your experience and excellence judgement. Of course if the **** hits the fan it’s down to you. STRIKE THAT LAST SENTENCE FROM THE MINUTES.

Moyes has finally found his new Everton. Keep your focus on Zouma. He’s the bad guy here.

Of course, the can could have been kept being kicked down the road - Boris style.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

JUst got in from seeing Espanyol draw 2-2 with Barça..We were robbed. in the 96th minute (after 6 minutes of AT.

The only consolation for me is that this is the worst Barça side I've seen in 44 years.

 

[RHB]

Face recognition or fingerprint sensors on smartphones. I'm lucky if mine works 1 time in five.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Disgusted with David Moyes. Fully aware what the player did, said afterwards, he selected him because he wanted to field the 'best team' and that he was 'one of our better players'.
So does that mean he will play a player no matter what he does off the field? Because Spam come first? Blimey, I bet he would have still played Mason Greenwood if he was still the Man U manager. Some things are bigger than football Mr Moyes.

Board should have taken the decision out of his hands. But then, this is Karen Brady!

 

[OldBlueLady]

The family of Captain Tom.

Still waiting for an explanation of this?

 

[WhiteNoise]

Still waiting for an explanation of this?

Turns out that people donating to the foundation have seen less than 16p for every £1 raised actually go to charitable causes, with thousands of pounds paid to his daughter's company. The whole thing is a grift. Plus his family just come across as deeply unpleasant in terms of how they treated him.

 

[Supernaut]

Turns out that people donating to the foundation have seen less than 16p for every £1 raised actually go to charitable causes, with thousands of pounds paid to his daughter's company. The whole thing is a grift. Plus his family just come across as deeply unpleasant in terms of how they treated him.

I was reading about this just the other day and completely agree - the entire thing was a complete con.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I was reading about this just the other day and completely agree - the entire thing was a complete con.

Lots of charities are, the salaries of the CEOs and board of many of them would feed a small country for a week too often.
And, unfortunately, even the likes of some local charities don't watch the pennies on their self indulgencies.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Lots of charities are, the salaries of the CEOs and board of many of them would feed a small country for a week too often.
And, unfortunately, even the likes of some local charities don't watch the pennies on their self indulgencies.

I think there's an important distinction to be made between charities and the 'effectiveness' of their spending, compared to 'foundations' which to me seem like an absolute scam and a pointless intermediate step with no benefit other than to line people's pockets. Don't disagree that charities can be wasteful.

 

[southendkid]

the salaries of the CEOs and board of many of them would feed a small country for a week too often.

I see this argument a lot but it doesn't make sense to me. Ultimately running a charity requires similar skills to running a business and that means you need to pay people that know what they're doing and to do that you need to pay them a good salary. Ultimately if you could get a job elsewhere for £500,000 a year and you're only offering them £50,000 a year to be a CEO for your charity then they'd essentially be donating £450,000 a year to your charity since it'd mean they couldn't take the £500,000 job. Not many people would be willing to donate 90% of their expected salary to charity.

Yes you could save hundreds of thousands in the short term hiring a well meaning CEO with no business skills but you'll be regretting it when it turns out the people he hired to build a new hospital built something that is structurally unsafe or they only managed to source about 10% of the food they were supposed to supply to the homeless.

There absolutely are charities that are scams but it having a high wage budget (especially one that works globally) doesn't necessarily mean they aren't legitimate.

 

[Napster]

I see this argument a lot but it doesn't make sense to me. Ultimately running a charity requires similar skills to running a business and that means you need to pay people that know what they're doing and to do that you need to pay them a good salary. Ultimately if you could get a job elsewhere for £500,000 a year and you're only offering them £50,000 a year to be a CEO for your charity then they'd essentially be donating £450,000 a year to your charity since it'd mean they couldn't take the £500,000 job. Not many people would be willing to donate 90% of their expected salary to charity.

Yes you could save hundreds of thousands in the short term hiring a well meaning CEO with no business skills but you'll be regretting it when it turns out the people he hired to build a new hospital built something that is structurally unsafe or they only managed to source about 10% of the food they were supposed to supply to the homeless.

It's an interesting discussion. Many years ago I managed a charity. We had no admin costs as they were borne out by the parent company. The only costs were marketing (design/direct mail) and fulfilment. Even back then, we had to send out 1m letters (100k cost) to make about 30k in donations. It'd be harder now, given there's more charities. The larger charities also have no worries about challenging someone's will if they think they can get more money.

In an ideal world, charities shouldn't be needed at all. For example- cancer research should be the government's role...

 

[Supernaut]

It's an interesting discussion. Many years ago I managed a charity. We had no admin costs as they were borne out by the parent company. The only costs were marketing (design/direct mail) and fulfilment. Even back then, we had to send out 1m letters (100k cost) to make about 30k in donations. It'd be harder now, given there's more charities. The larger charities also have no worries about challenging someone's will if they think they can get more money.

In an ideal world, charities shouldn't be needed at all. For example- cancer research should be the government's role...

Completely agree. As Henning Wehn said: "We don’t do charity in Germany. We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of a government's responsibilities."

 

[OldBlueLady]

Turns out that people donating to the foundation have seen less than 16p for every £1 raised actually go to charitable causes, with thousands of pounds paid to his daughter's company. The whole thing is a grift. Plus his family just come across as deeply unpleasant in terms of how they treated him.

This is a real shame. He'd have hated this.

 

[RHB]

BBC Breakfast bloke reckons the average petrol price across the UK is 148.5. Not round here it isn't mate. My local Esso garage was charging 151.9 yesterday and it wasn't the only one I saw, bloody outrageous

 

[londonblue]

BBC Breakfast bloke reckons the average petrol price across the UK is 148.5. Not round here it isn't mate. My local Esso garage was charging 151.9 yesterday and it wasn't the only one I saw, bloody outrageous

I filled up at the local Costco last week. 138.7, which is relatively cheap these days.

 

[RobM]

BBC Breakfast bloke reckons the average petrol price across the UK is 148.5. Not round here it isn't mate. My local Esso garage was charging 151.9 yesterday and it wasn't the only one I saw, bloody outrageous

One local garage isn't an average!