Transfer News and Gossip Transfer Rumours Thread 2023-24 (Part 2 - Back in Business. Oh no we’re not)

[leeblue]

No.....

Just to be clear wrong or right I say EVERYTHING with confidence

 

[ms brush]

Or partners with their own jobs and careers. Homes that they're renting until the season, kids in school... There's a lot of hurdles at this level.

That is why it is so much easier to either find players from local lower level clubs or youngsters we can take on loan from bigger clubs - makes some of these logistics just a bit easier.

You have to remember that none of these players are going to be 'big' wage earners - and with a family, a possible relocation and current commitments might mean finding the money to even rent a room away from home can be a challenge. I know a number of the guys share flats etc, but there is a lot more to consider.

There is also the school of thought that would be we know that we have a couple of players on their way back, and we have done ok this season without bringing in more than we were allowed to - so maybe the EFL transfer window being open now and our takeover news has created a bit more of a headache and Kev just wants to bide his time and get the right player in!

 

[BoyWonder2]

I don't understand that. We aren't talking complex deals. It's non league.

Every transfer is complex, it’s not as easy as Football Manager or FIFA.

 

[Target man]

That is why it is so much easier to either find players from local lower level clubs or youngsters we can take on loan from bigger clubs - makes some of these logistics just a bit easier.

You have to remember that none of these players are going to be 'big' wage earners - and with a family, a possible relocation and current commitments might mean finding the money to even rent a room away from home can be a challenge. I know a number of the guys share flats etc, but there is a lot more to consider.

There is also the school of thought that would be we know that we have a couple of players on their way back, and we have done ok this season without bringing in more than we were allowed to - so maybe the EFL transfer window being open now and our takeover news has created a bit more of a headache and Kev just wants to bide his time and get the right player in!

Actually, as I understand, they get an allowance and in most cases, they have somewhere arranged nearby.

 

[annie1954]

I think I’m like most on here we we like 2 / 3 players in as cover and a final farewell from Ron just to give us a very happy new year

 

[shrimperjon]

Dackers was at Woking last season mate.

yes of course, saw 2023 but of course that was the 22/23 season

 

[TUMBO]

Staggers me that even Ron in all his wisdom never invested in 2 houses near either training ground or Roots Hall for new players to "rent a room/the whole property" depending on the players situation.

Charge each player a rent and he would no doubt profit from it.

Player moves to the area hassle free, club has an appreciating asset in the house, a settled player (1 less thing to research, appreciate schools etc need finding if they have kids ) and has no ties if after a 2 year contract they move on.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

 

[Jmayhew32]

Maher On Potential Incomings

The official website of Southend United FC

www.southendunited.co.uk

I think we need to appreciate this post from the club. When was the last time that communication was at the stage where the club told us about potential incomings? This is clearly a change from the 'norm' of old and hopefully a sign of the new age of open communication coming our way from the club. I for one welcome this

 

[Fairport]

I remember when Dave Webb said he would only sign players from in and around the M25 area. I can see the merits in that policy.

 

[JIMSDAD]

Staggers me that even Ron in all his wisdom never invested in 2 houses near either training ground or Roots Hall for new players to "rent a room/the whole property" depending on the players situation.

Charge each player a rent and he would no doubt profit from it.

Player moves to the area hassle free, club has an appreciating asset in the house, a settled player (1 less thing to research, appreciate schools etc need finding if they have kids ) and has no ties if after a 2 year contract they move on.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

He did. The bottom end of Hobleythick Lane. Amongst others, Ryan Leonard and Chris Barker shared a house about four doors up from Bell Tyres.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Much as I would love this too, he came off the bench after 70 minutes for Wrexham on Monday which suggests he’s still very much part of their plans.

As did Mooney in his last few weeks here. Definitely wasn't part of our plans

 

[TUMBO]

He did. The bottom end of Hobleythick Lane. Amongst others, Ryan Leonard and Chris Barker shared a house about four doors up from Bell Tyres.

Was it used any later than those 2? I assume that's in his name so not club owned?

 

[NZamba Legend]

Okay

Every transfer is complex, it’s not as easy as Football Manager or FIFA.

yeah but FM is not always easy either. Many times I have struggled- Coventry in 08/09 when my slew of hasty Slovenian signings bombed badly immediately springs to mind. Anyone can PM me if they want to hear more

 

[TheCowboy]

We're just talking about people's lives and careers and the possibility of uprooting hundreds of miles. And possibly moving away from young kids and a partner. Not complex at all

only a southend fan can make signings a player so laborious and gut wrenching and burdening. I am surprised you are not using the ' they are all on holiday you idiots' as the rest of the football world makes signings all around us! its football, its a fickle world I am sure signings can happen easily enough. Happy that Kev doesnt just want to make sigings for signings sake, but come on we are all frustrated that we dont have players through the door yet, after all the positive noises being made by those associated with the club. I suppose we do need to be mindful that Ron Martin does still own this club!

 

[TheCowboy]

Staggers me that even Ron in all his wisdom never invested in 2 houses near either training ground or Roots Hall for new players to "rent a room/the whole property" depending on the players situation.

Charge each player a rent and he would no doubt profit from it.

Player moves to the area hassle free, club has an appreciating asset in the house, a settled player (1 less thing to research, appreciate schools etc need finding if they have kids ) and has no ties if after a 2 year contract they move on.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

I suppose its easier to knock a landlord here and there and go un noticed, not to easy to do it with a bank

 

[JIMSDAD]

Was it used any later than those 2? I assume that's in his name so not club owned?

Think it was amongst a small but of properties that he owned, rather than them being “club houses”. There were a few apartments that the likes of Bilel, JFC and Francis Laurent were in, in a large block near Grainger Road and Straker was in a house on the Martin Dawn development near the top of Lifstan Way. I’d guess they all ended up being sold to satisfy HMRC et al.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

If it was such a done deal I'm a bit shocked it hasn't already been announced

James Morton: announced 8pm night before a 3pm game

Brooklyn Kabongolo: announced 13:31 the afternoon of an evening game

Nick Hayes: announced 13:15 just before a 3pm kick off.

Daniel Kanu announced 15:00 the day before a 3pm kick off.

Dave Martin and Mauro Vilhete announced 18:30 before a 19:45 kick off.

Henry Sandat announced 13:45 before a 3pm kick off.


I’d have been shocked if something was announced before now.

 

[Gremlin]

Is this said with the same confidence when you told us to enjoy Christmas and not to worry about the takeover happening until the New Year?

The takeover hasn't happened!

 

[GNH]

While I appreciate the relative complexities of getting things completed after being in the transfer wilderness for what seemed like eternity, I do struggle to understand why we haven't been able to bring in a forward on a short term deal as emergency cover. We even managed to make some of those signings while under an embargo (sorry, I said that word again)

This whole 'it has to be the right player' stuff is irrelevant when your other option is playing Vilhete up front. With all due respect any recognised striker would be an improvement in the short term until we can get in permanent signings.

Perhaps this is happening and it's just being kept under wraps for the weekend, in which case the above doesn't matter

 

[Shrimpergonzo]

As did Mooney in his last few weeks here. Definitely wasn't part of our plans

I think our squad size was (is!) quite different to Wrexham’s!