Transfer News and Gossip Transfer Rumours Thread 2023-24 (Part 2 - Back in Business. Oh no we’re not)

[RHB]

I'm struggling to see how Vilhete will manage to get a place in the squad now with the strength in depth we now have. I wonder if the fairest thing is to let him return to Hayes so he can be playing week in week out?

It might depend on several things. Firstly, Vilhete is no spring chicken (30) and has expressed a wish to finish his career with Southend.

Vilhete wants to end his career with Blues

MAURO Vilhete wants Southend United to be the final club of his career.

www.echo-news.co.uk

Secondly, it may depend on how closely we follow the Brentford model where we keep a B team ticking over, which would accommodate all those players that are not making the Saturday squad augmented by academy players. And lastly, we have been known to suffer the SUFC injury jinx where we get multiple injuries at the same time. Or this could just be rhubarb and we send him back.

 

[Danshrimper]

I'm struggling to see how Vilhete will manage to get a place in the squad now with the strength in depth we now have. I wonder if the fairest thing is to let him return to Hayes so he can be playing week in week out?

We don’t really have much strength in depth in the wing back positions. If Gus and/or Bridge are suspended or injured, Vilhete would probably be used as cover on the bench for that position.

 

[flangejackrabbit]

We don’t really have much strength in depth in the wing back positions. If Gus and/or Bridge are suspended or injured, Vilhete would probably be used as cover on the bench for that position.

During the next few months we should be sourcing a promising youngster to play this bench cover role, for me that's the next signing priority.

 

[BoyWonder2]

During the next few months we should be sourcing a promising youngster to play this bench cover role, for me that's the next signing priority.

You should never be signing players “for the bench”.

Everyone you bring in, should be with the idea of them being first choice in their position. If you are signing “bench players” you’ll never improve.

We haven’t signed the likes of Crowther, Morton & Waldron with the idea of them becoming bench players. Yes, that might be what they achieve, but the idea is they challenge for a spot and have the ability to take that place from whoever is holding the shirt.

 

[Holy Joe]

You should never be signing players “for the bench”.

Everyone you bring in, should be with the idea of them being first choice in their position. If you are signing “bench players” you’ll never improve.

We haven’t signed the likes of Crowther, Morton & Waldron with the idea of them becoming bench players. Yes, that might be what they achieve, but the idea is they challenge for a spot and have the ability to take that place from whoever is holding the shirt.

Why did we sign Wood then and have interest in the other lad at the moment?

 

[BoyWonder2]

Why did we sign Wood then and have interest in the other lad at the moment?

To become first team players. The same reason we sign anyone.

Obviously, it doesn’t always work that way, but the idea is they become good enough to become regulars in their positions.

 

[bluesfansince1952]

During the next few months we should be sourcing a promising youngster to play this bench cover role, for me that's the next signing priority

Is there a role on the bench for at least one player with experience who can play a number of positions? Someone you bring on with five minutes or less to go to close out the game, or, comes on as third sub after an unexpected knock or injury when you have already made two changes.
That is the role you would want Vilhette to fill. If you think that third substitute is a position (I do) then he is a useful player to have around as long as he is not overpaid.

 

[Holy Joe]

To become first team players. The same reason we sign anyone.

Obviously, it doesn’t always work that way, but the idea is they become good enough to become regulars in their positions.

I think that's what the OP was suggesting, sign a young wingback that will be able to challenge for the position in a season or 2 but in the meantime can be cover.

 

[flangejackrabbit]

I think that's what the OP was suggesting, sign a young wingback that will be able to challenge for the position in a season or 2 but in the meantime can be cover.

Precisely, a long-term first team replacement for a few years down the line who can come off the bench now.

 

[in the know]

I went from Hornchurch to West Ham.

Oh hang on…, that was a train ride now I come to remember!

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

Is there a role on the bench for at least one player with experience who can play a number of positions? Someone you bring on with five minutes or less to go to close out the game, or, comes on as third sub after an unexpected knock or injury when you have already made two changes.
That is the role you would want Vilhette to fill. If you think that third substitute is a position (I do) then he is a useful player to have around as long as he is not overpaid.

Jason Demetriou. But I agree we want youngsters to challenge our wing backs

 

[Morty01]

Any news on He Who Must Not Be Named?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Any news on He Who Must Not Be Named?

I think they found all the horcruxes in the end? The last one was in the war chest IIRC.

 

[stewart]

i also dont believe it when they say and has been said that there will be no more signings this season , im sure if JS and his merry men came across an absolute jewel in the making ,the club would go all out to sign him,

 

[Shrimpergonzo]

Now that Vilhete and Kabongolo have both left, will that kick start the signing of a couple more squad players?

 

[Leeboy]

Now that Vilhete and Kabongolo have both left, will that kick start the signing of a couple more squad players?

I did just post in the Vilhete Leaving thread that does this make us a bit threadbare again?

 

[RHB]

I did just post in the Vilhete Leaving thread that does this make us a bit threadbare again?

Unless my Maths is sh1te (highly likely) we now have 19 permanent professionals on the books without Henry and Dackers. That includes our long term injured, Martin, Lomas and Callum. That doesn't feel too threadbare to me, but its not impossible that the Hitchin Town youngster may now heave into view.

 

[Rattus Norvegicus]

Unless my Maths is sh1te (highly likely) we now have 19 permanent professionals on the books without Henry and Dackers. That includes our long term injured, Martin, Lomas and Callum. That doesn't feel too threadbare to me, but its not impossible that the Hitchin Town youngster may now heave into view.

And at that point are we done until the summer?

Or do people think we are in "sign a target at anytime if possible" territory?

 

[Rattus Norvegicus]

You should never be signing players “for the bench”.

This. I don't really understand the "squad player" approach. Perhaps if you are running a reserve team (to bring on other players) or some other nebulous reason. [shoulder shrug; thinking face; raised eyebrows]

 

[Texas Eslan]

Unless my Maths is sh1te (highly likely) we now have 19 permanent professionals on the books without Henry and Dackers. That includes our long term injured, Martin, Lomas and Callum. That doesn't feel too threadbare to me, but its not impossible that the Hitchin Town youngster may now heave into view.

So we only have 16 perms (not long term injured) and 2 loans? That’s not a lot if 1 or 2 are also carrying knocks. Could even end up with a short bench again.