Transfer Embargo, Winding Up Petition & Staff Salary Issues

[WestyReturns]

So the amount owed could be around £1.4m

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590388802396499968

If that's right then I can see this being the end!

 

[AlfaShrimper]

Hey Everyone.

Last week, Ron, Tom, Kev, Darren, Benno, John and I met at Roots Hall.

A 2 hour meeting to go through several agenda items on and off the pitch that affect or could affect the Football Department.

Ron, as ultimate owner of Southend United set out the position on all of the raised issues, and specific questions we ( everyone freely asked questions in a cordial but business like atmosphere) all had regarding staff, morale and potential solutions.

My commitment to transparency, integrity and honesty is clear, unambiguous and I'm sure would be confirmed by the Shrimpers Trust, staff and Football Department. However it is not in my remit, nor ever was and certainly wasn't suggested ( in my zoom calls with you guys), that I would be the conduit to give Southend United privileged business information. That is the job of the CEO via the owner, and is normal business practice.

The same people who are critical of me on this forum for "being quiet", are exactly the same people who criticised when I gave them "too much running commentary". But my transparency and honesty specifically related to what the Football Department do, act upon and execute, along with commercial, media and Supporter initiatives. Why haven't you seen me pop up in meetings or video clips? Because the Football Department is doing rather than talking, and that Football Department is not only a resounding success in one year, but a resounding success despite of the situation the club has found itself in.

My role nor remit at Southend United involves privileged financial information.

You should be incredibly proud of the way that the Football Department and general staff conduct themselves,bthe Football Department in particular is fully functional, respected ( kind words last night from Luke Williams towards our Football Department in the manager's room post match ) and can discharge everything that we need to discharge when the light turns green.

Ron owns the club and there are ongoing issues, this is known and the staff at the club every day along with the Football Department are a credit to our club. Without these people, my genuine opinion is that the club would be in National League South which compounded by long term issues would be a very difficult place to come back from. Our position on the pitch now gives us a fighters chance on and off the pitch to get things right and on your behalf that is constantly messaged to those who make decisions.

Until we are fully staffed, until long standing issues are resolved , which we all hope will be very soon, then none of us will be truly happy, none of us.

But sledging anyone working their absolute tails off for our club is not ok, not cool and uncalled for.

The club, your club has very clever and long in the tooth football adults in the building,and what you've seen on the pitch can't happen without the support the Football Department and general staff give each other.

We all need your support, and trust me we are supporting you in ways that I know you all would be very proud of.

Keep calm, trust the Football Department, General Staff and Tom.

Stan

All we want and need to know is are we gonna to have a football club next year?

 

[Kat_r]

Absolutely it is. No member of staff working at RH whether salaried or casual, should have to wait past their wages due date.

This is something I, for one, am very passionate about.

agreed. I hope all staff are paid. And it’s ok to ask that question about who has and has not.

 

[GNH]

So the amount owed could be around £1.4m

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590388802396499968

So we have slashed the wage bill over the last 2-3 seasons and while there has been a drop in revenue due to the loss of our EFL status, crowds have remained fairly constant. There has also been nothing spent on keeping RH is any sort of operating condition, just the bare minimum to satisfy H&S certificates.

Despite this we are still unable to pay monies due to HMRC to the tune of £1m+, these accounts need submitting urgently so that the transparancy is restored and we can see why.

 

[Target man]

All we want and need to know is are we gonna to have a football club next year?

Yes. An even better one than we have now .... I know its hard to imagine but if we said 12 months ago we would have a far better younger fitter team, with Kacper signed on a permanent, we would not have imagined it.

If Stan says "trust", that's enough for me.

Financial information won't be divulged and if 1.4 million is the deficit, that seems a lot to turnaround in 56 days. Although we can't trust Ron, and I don't, I do 100% trust Tom.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

and stick him in the jungle with Hancock .....

He comes out with crap all the time, so probably wouldn't bother him eating it?.

 

[Kat_r]

Absolutely spot on to this point. His priority is and always has been to asset strip the club and make a killing off it's assets (land). That runs in complete contradiction to the running of a successful and sustainable football club when his only goal is profit through disposing of/exploiting it's assets.
I believe that due to this contradiction and his own incompetence in business/general organisation, he will take the club down trying to achieve said profit.

Agreed. Anybody can see this. It’s clear to anybody but some refuse to see it or it benefits them not to speak up

 

[Kat_r]

So backroom staff not paid again?

Ordinary workers who deserve so much better.

Not sure how this can be justified by okeeyyy

 

[Holy Joe]

So we have slashed the wage bill over the last 2-3 seasons and while there has been a drop in revenue due to the loss of our EFL status, crowds have remained fairly constant. There has also been nothing spent on keeping RH is any sort of operating condition, just the bare minimum to satisfy H&S certificates.

Despite this we are still unable to pay monies due to HMRC to the tune of £1m+, these accounts need submitting urgently so that the transparancy is restored and we can see why.

Isn't much of the HMRC debt historical, debt that was accrued during lockdowns, when we didn't have gate revenue etc.

 

[Dutch Branch]

Does anyone know what’s our monthly wage and expenditure bill is?

 

[BoyWonder2]

So backroom staff not paid again?

Ordinary workers who deserve so much better.

Not sure how this can be justified by okeeyyy

I’ve not seen a single post justifying it.

Of course it’s not okay, whether you trust RM or not. When you begin employment at any place of work, you expect to receive your salary on said pay day.

 

[GNH]

Does anyone know what’s our monthly wage and expenditure bill is?

There maybe a few ITK people who could have a rough guess but without published accounts there's no way of knowing.

 

[Kat_r]

I’ve not seen a single post justifying it.

Of course it’s not okay, whether you trust RM or not. When you begin employment at any place of work, you expect to receive your salary on said pay day.

It’s so very far from ok.

 

[Dutch Branch]

? ADJOURNED.
until when? After lunch, tomorrow next week, month,year, 30th February?

I’d say at least January in order to give both sides to prepare arguments.

 

[BoyWonder2]

Also, the people criticising Stan.

He said in the SZ posts, the Zoom calls etc that he wouldn’t be involved in the financial side of things, would be involved in the stadium side of things, so no idea why his name constantly gets drag into these type of discussions.

Hopefully his post silences a bit of that, but I highly doubt it unfortunately.

 

[Target man]

You make it seem a binary question when, what is there for sale?
Roots Hall? Other nearby Ron purchased properties? Building rights and plans etc?
Players, staff, club football contracts?
Naming and merchandise rights?
Boots and Laces?
Dome?
FF plans, land, rights etc?
New trading ground?
Other assets?
Debts?
Yes if I won that much I would buy.

RM said he would not sell the Club, now, even if 40mil was offered, which tells you that's his absolute minimum negotiation point. Right now, it's nowhere near worth that so can't see where any investor would be interested currently. When the stadium is done then yes, lots of potential.

Covid has definitely got to you if you would buy it now, with your hypothetical euro millions win!! Lol

 

[brigadista]

Does anyone know what’s our monthly wage and expenditure bill is?

please don't ask sensible, rational questions on here - that demands too much sanity!

 

[Kat_r]

So does anybody in the club actually think that backroom staff members will be paid on time in December, January, February etc?

 

[sufc4life21]

1.4 million, How the **** he racked that up? Jeez this man really has ****ed this club up....... 2 years ago he struggled to pay off half million and 2 years on its 3 times the amount. I don't see how we get out this mess if I'm honest.

 

[Target man]

Also, the people criticising Stan.

He said in the SZ posts, the Zoom calls etc that he wouldn’t be involved in the financial side of things, would be involved in the stadium side of things, so no idea why his name constantly gets drag into these type of discussions.

Hopefully his post silences a bit of that, but I highly doubt it unfortunately.

Stan wasn't dragged in, just asked for a comment, being a senior club representative who engages with the fan base, I think that's reasonable.

He didn't divulge anything he couldn't but gave a good reassuring account of the current status no one is privileged to.

"Last week, Ron, Tom, Kev, Darren, Benno, John and I met at Roots Hall.

"A 2 hour meeting to go through several agenda items on and off the pitch that affect or could affect the Football Department".

"Keep calm, trust the Football Department, General Staff and Tom".

That's more info we would ever get from the owner and appreciated, so no apologies on my behalf for asking.