The inevitable impact of Covid19

[Tangled up in Blue]

An overnight one wouldn't impact too much in the UK other than the clubbing scene, but again I wouldn't want to see one at all here. That industry has been wrecked enough already.

Not that I'm a huge fan of clubs (only been couple times in the last year) but some people do enjoy them and the night hospitality and entertainment industry would struggle to survive with more restrictions.

It's certainly a problem for the younger generation here,including our younger daughter and her boyfirend, who came back on a plane yesterday from Paris including a lot of frogs who've come here presumably intending to party on NYE. (The tradition here is to have a late meal with your folks and go out all night,ending up on the beach in the early hours.Thank God I'm too old for that stuff!BTW I was wrong about the curfew here it starts on Friday night not next week.

 

[kaymac]

So far I have not met a single anti-vaxer. I have met dozens of people who refused to have an experimental injection that clearly hasn't worked. Its their choice just like abortion is a personal choice. As it happens they are usually fit for their age and have used the NHS the least. Also not by coincidence they will have worked harder than most in their chosen field. So have paid more into the system.

None of you know the longterm damage it will cause and some of you refuse to see the obvious side effects some have suffered. Even when they collapse on football, rugby and cricket pitch in front of you.

There are millions at the moment who will not be taking the booster. On the basis that if 2 don't work how will a 3rd work when it was designed before you had ever heard of omicon. Those good people are now classed as "Ant-vaxers"

Thats the reason why the elite are giving you detention. Not for your safety, its your non compliance that they fear that the most. What they are now encouraging is their "Gate Keepers" to help turn society on each other.

400 years ago there were mobs dragging mainly women, up to the ducking pond close to Leigh road. Throughout history there are always those that can't wait to be at the head of the mob. Those who want to silence any debate and turn on those who can.

As Southend fans and by the many Ron threads. You should absolutely know its only lies that need to be covered up. None of you have to fear the truth.....Even if it scares you.“



How long have you been deluded and a conspiracy theorist? Just asking like…nothing personal…

 

[Supershrimper]

So far I have not met a single anti-vaxer. I have met dozens of people who refused to have an experimental injection that clearly hasn't worked. Its their choice just like abortion is a personal choice. As it happens they are usually fit for their age and have used the NHS the least. Also not by coincidence they will have worked harder than most in their chosen field. So have paid more into the system.

None of you know the longterm damage it will cause and some of you refuse to see the obvious side effects some have suffered. Even when they collapse on football, rugby and cricket pitch in front of you.

There are millions at the moment who will not be taking the booster. On the basis that if 2 don't work how will a 3rd work when it was designed before you had ever heard of omicon. Those good people are now classed as "Ant-vaxers"

Thats the reason why the elite are giving you detention. Not for your safety, its your non compliance that they fear that the most. What they are now encouraging is their "Gate Keepers" to help turn society on each other.

400 years ago there were mobs dragging mainly women, up to the ducking pond close to Leigh road. Throughout history there are always those that can't wait to be at the head of the mob. Those who want to silence any debate and turn on those who can.

As Southend fans and by the many Ron threads. You should absolutely know its only lies that need to be covered up. None of you have to fear the truth.....Even if it scares you.

I felt exactly the same back in 2019 when they released Marmite Peanut Butter.

 

[mattytheshrimper]

So far I have not met a single anti-vaxer. I have met dozens of people who refused to have an experimental injection that clearly hasn't worked. Its their choice just like abortion is a personal choice. As it happens they are usually fit for their age and have used the NHS the least. Also not by coincidence they will have worked harder than most in their chosen field. So have paid more into the system.

None of you know the longterm damage it will cause and some of you refuse to see the obvious side effects some have suffered. Even when they collapse on football, rugby and cricket pitch in front of you.

There are millions at the moment who will not be taking the booster. On the basis that if 2 don't work how will a 3rd work when it was designed before you had ever heard of omicon. Those good people are now classed as "Ant-vaxers"

Thats the reason why the elite are giving you detention. Not for your safety, its your non compliance that they fear that the most. What they are now encouraging is their "Gate Keepers" to help turn society on each other.

400 years ago there were mobs dragging mainly women, up to the ducking pond close to Leigh road. Throughout history there are always those that can't wait to be at the head of the mob. Those who want to silence any debate and turn on those who can.

As Southend fans and by the many Ron threads. You should absolutely know its only lies that need to be covered up. None of you have to fear the truth.....Even if it scares you.

Honestly haven't got the energy for this conversation today.

 

[dcblue]

So far I have not met a single anti-vaxer. I have met dozens of people who refused to have an experimental injection that clearly hasn't worked. Its their choice just like abortion is a personal choice. As it happens they are usually fit for their age and have used the NHS the least. Also not by coincidence they will have worked harder than most in their chosen field. So have paid more into the system.

None of you know the longterm damage it will cause and some of you refuse to see the obvious side effects some have suffered. Even when they collapse on football, rugby and cricket pitch in front of you.

There are millions at the moment who will not be taking the booster. On the basis that if 2 don't work how will a 3rd work when it was designed before you had ever heard of omicon. Those good people are now classed as "Ant-vaxers"

Thats the reason why the elite are giving you detention. Not for your safety, its your non compliance that they fear that the most. What they are now encouraging is their "Gate Keepers" to help turn society on each other.

400 years ago there were mobs dragging mainly women, up to the ducking pond close to Leigh road. Throughout history there are always those that can't wait to be at the head of the mob. Those who want to silence any debate and turn on those who can.

As Southend fans and by the many Ron threads. You should absolutely know its only lies that need to be covered up. None of you have to fear the truth.....Even if it scares you.

Great post and put more eloquently than I ever could.
The few replies so far are exactly as expected.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

So far I have not met a single anti-vaxer. I have met dozens of people who refused to have an experimental injection that clearly hasn't worked. Its their choice just like abortion is a personal choice. As it happens they are usually fit for their age and have used the NHS the least. Also not by coincidence they will have worked harder than most in their chosen field. So have paid more into the system.

None of you know the longterm damage it will cause and some of you refuse to see the obvious side effects some have suffered. Even when they collapse on football, rugby and cricket pitch in front of you.

There are millions at the moment who will not be taking the booster. On the basis that if 2 don't work how will a 3rd work when it was designed before you had ever heard of omicon. Those good people are now classed as "Ant-vaxers"

Thats the reason why the elite are giving you detention. Not for your safety, its your non compliance that they fear that the most. What they are now encouraging is their "Gate Keepers" to help turn society on each other.

400 years ago there were mobs dragging mainly women, up to the ducking pond close to Leigh road. Throughout history there are always those that can't wait to be at the head of the mob. Those who want to silence any debate and turn on those who can.

As Southend fans and by the many Ron threads. You should absolutely know its only lies that need to be covered up. None of you have to fear the truth.....Even if it scares you.

Leave it out Rigsby please. As ever this is a highly selective soup of conjecture and conspiracy tosh. Fortunately you show it up by making claims that are impossible for you or anyone else to know about like your vaccine refusenik chums being healthier and working harder through their careers than everyone else - who could possibly know that, much less prove it. Like the rest of your sweeping, selective generalisations it’s just garbage. If you don’t want a vaccine, fine, but stop endlessly cobbling together nonsense to try to undermine the confidence of less conspiracy-minded citizens - it’s abhorrent.

 

[rigsby]

It's certainly a problem for the younger generation here,including our younger daughter and her boyfirend, who came back on a plane yesterday from Paris including a lot of frogs who've come here presumably intending to party on NYE. (The tradition here is to have a late meal with your folks and go out all night,ending up on the beach in the early hours.Thank God I'm too old for that stuff!BTW I was wrong about the curfew here it starts on Friday night not next week.

The reason the human species has evolved owes a lot to healthy debate. It turns out between us two the WHO actually agree with us.....Sadly nether of us get a mention

I am 100% against injecting healthy children in any country. You would like to see more help for countries that cant afford the jab.

The Director General of the WHO mentions the over 65's in countries who have had no jab and goes on to say
"So if its going to be used its better to focus on those groups who have risk of severe disease rather than as we see some countries are using it to give boosters to ........ children.

Can you guess what term he used about our children.

 

[rigsby]

Leave it out Rigsby please. As ever this is a highly selective soup of conjecture and conspiracy tosh. Fortunately you show it up by making claims that are impossible for you or anyone else to know about like your vaccine refusenik chums being healthier and working harder through their careers than everyone else - who could possibly know that, much less prove it. Like the rest of your sweeping, selective generalisations it’s just garbage. If you don’t want a vaccine, fine, but stop endlessly cobbling together nonsense to try to undermine the confidence of less conspiracy-minded citizens - it’s abhorrent.

I'm one of the people who have been advised by a highly rated doctor not to have the jab. For medical reasons that i don't have to explain to anyone. The same for people who suffer from certain allergies, DVT etc.

They suffer from abusive terms that people on here seem happy to use and encourage.

I was replying to those people not trying to undermine anyones confidence. I'm not telling anyone to refuse a jab, the elderly in my family have all had their booster. Yet some believe they can force me and several other Zone members to have the jab.

 

[blueblueblue]

The reason the human species has evolved owes a lot to healthy debate. It turns out between us two the WHO actually agree with us.....Sadly nether of us get a mention

I am 100% against injecting healthy children in any country. You would like to see more help for countries that cant afford the jab.

The Director General of the WHO mentions the over 65's in countries who have had no jab and goes on to say
"So if its going to be used its better to focus on those groups who have risk of severe disease rather than as we see some countries are using it to give boosters to ........ children.

Can you guess what term he used about our children.

You're defo on one today you are. I don't think anyone is questioning your human right to refuse the jab, that's your choice.

 

[GBJ]

I am 100% against injecting healthy children in any country.

Where do you stand on kids receiving inoculations against Polio, TB, MMR & Smallpox?

Or even Tetanus shots?

The reason I ask is not to try and be clever, but because history has taught us that immunologists can be trusted, especially when it comes to vaccinating children, can’t they?

So why would the covid jab be any different?

Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t necessarily rush to get my kids (if I had any) vaccinated against covid. But that’s because I don’t know enough about the short term advantages of it & whether this would outweigh or mitigate the risks of not having it. But that isn’t because of distrust in the scientists, it’s just my ignorance on a topic that I haven’t had any need to look into.

I know as an adult my chances of getting seriously ill and having long lasting effects from Covid isn’t relatively high, but that can be said for tonsillitis or gonorrhoea too, and I don’t fancy catching them either, so if there is something that can give me some form of extra protection, then I’m happy to put my faith in those same scientists, virologists and immunologists who have successfully vaccinated people for decades, against the diseases I mentioned earlier.

I fully agree that everyone should be allowed to make their own minds up, and of course, the idea of mandatory jabs is repulsive, IMO. We should never surrender that kind of power to The State.

Get the jab, don’t get the jab, everyone has the right to make that decision, just as it’s my decision to smoke and drink. No doubt my choices will come back to haunt me one day, and I’ll be relying on the NHS to save me.

All I say to anyone who I’ve ever had this conversation with is, if you’re having it or not having it, make sure you’re doing it for the right personal reasons, and not because YouTube or some other grifting website has told you not to (not directing that at you personally mate and not suggesting that is the reason).

 

[wivs]

Honestly haven't got the energy for this conversation today.

That sounds just like the adverse reactions you get from the booster. ?

 

[Cultist of Sooty]

"I'm not an antivaxer", say rigrby, then proceeds to post a load of antivaxer bull****.

Risgby, you've been posting this deluded conspiracy theory bull**** since last year. It's no more true now than it was then.

 

[mattytheshrimper]

That sounds just like the adverse reactions you get from the booster. ?

Nope, I've just entertained these types of views far to many times in the past and it's just not worth my time and effort.

 

[SARF]

Unfortunately private wealth and public health are inextricably linked

 

[Napster]

Unfortunately private wealth and public health are inextricably linked

Or if you have a decent job, always take private health cover.

 

[Mad Cyril]

You don't hear older people bragging about the cruises they have booked for next year so much.

 

[pottster]

Gov are saying the omicron isnt as life threatening as delta. Hold tight we might just ride this out!

 

[pottster]

You don't hear older people bragging about the cruises they have booked for next year so much.

Give em time, once this is over the boomers will be going on some massive cruises with the cash theyve saved from their final salary pensions!

 

[RobM]

You don't hear older people bragging about the cruises they have booked for next year so much.

I wouldn't brag about a cruise, I'd rather miss out.

 

[RobM]

Give em time, once this is over the boomers will be going on some massive cruises with the cash theyve saved from their final salary pensions!

The ones they've contributed 15% of their salaries?