Transfer News and Gossip Summer/Autumn Transfer Targets/Rumours Thread 2022

[hlane17]

Have a look at the Col U highlights. Their first goal starts from Dalby not winning that sort of header….. Except Dalby had no chance because he was being clearly failed by Eastman?. Anyway 2 hands clearly pulling him down and stopping him jump.

We are to quiet as a team and allow teams to test the ref, followed by clear an obvious shirt grabbing two handed shoves etc.

With the obvious injuries it means Sam Dalby has the most important and toughest job out of anyone in our squad.

He needs 6,000 bodies guards not people slagging him……. If that happens we might just have a chance by the end of September.

He needs to put up some fight against opposition CBs even if it means giving away some fouls at times.

He will surely earn some free kicks in return by at least drawing the ref's attention to the tussles he gets caught in.

Just standing there and taking it doesn't help anyone, especially Dalby if he wants to have a good season.

 

[rigsby]

Then he needs to start dishing it out. If he isnt getting any protection then it's up to him to get the better of defenders.

I'd happily see Wreh start ahead of Dalby at this time as we seem so much bunter in attack with just Dalby as the lone forward.

No Tommy we need to start dishing it out.

We love making bold statements from our computers about great support and why young players should pick Southend over Solihull….. Then it’s about time we recreated the atmosphere under lights back in January….. Anyone who was there loved those games…..and we were all part of it.

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

Anyway, back on topic.

Does anyone know if there any talks with any other players?

I do wonder if the money that was set aside for Kelly is still available for a different transfer. It would be good to make a real statement signing. Especially of it was Lopata. Do we think 100k in installments would be enough to prize him away? It might be if we put a decent sell-on clause.

Back 5 of:
Demi, Lomas, Lopata, Kensdale, Ralph would be some defense!

 

[BoyWonder2]

Anyway, back on topic.

Does anyone know if there any talks with any other players?

I do wonder if the money that was set aside for Kelly is still available for a different transfer. It would be good to make a real statement signing. Especially of it was Lopata. Do we think 100k in installments would be enough to prize him away? It might be if we put a decent sell-on clause.

Back 5 of:
Demi, Lomas, Lopata, Kensdale, Ralph would be some defense!

We don’t have a spare six figure sum laying around.

It would have been paid over the length of his contract, just like a signing on fee. We are still very much living hand to mouth in terms of finances.

We have discussed a permanent deal for Lopata, but nothing is happening at the moment. They don’t want to sell at the minute, they want Lopata on a new deal, to then loan out. Lopata doesn’t want to sign a new deal.

Gubbins is another we are keeping tabs on, that would be a loan deal. We have next to no chance of a permanent deal. However, he has impressed during pre-season, and QPR want him around the first team squad. We’ve registered our interest, and are in dialogue with QPR, Gubbins and his agent, but nothing is happening there.

We did look at a loanee central midfielder, but that was before Wes signed, so we’ve stuck a pin in that one.

I know we’ve spoken to West Ham about potential loans, however, I don’t know what position that’s for, or how recent it was. It may have been for a midfielder before Wes and the other loanee we looked at. It may have been for a second choice goalkeeper, a defender or striker, I’ve not been given a name on that one.

Kev & co want a “permanent” squad. They want to avoid what happened with Brunt & Lopata. I imagine the loan market will be used if it’s required, and who knows, we may see one or two added to the squad before the big kick off.

 

[JAL]

We don’t have a spare six figure sum laying around.

It would have been paid over the length of his contract, just like a signing on fee. We are still very much living hand to mouth in terms of finances.

We have discussed a permanent deal for Lopata, but nothing is happening at the moment. They don’t want to sell at the minute, they want Lopata on a new deal, to then loan out. Lopata doesn’t want to sign a new deal.

Gubbins is another we are keeping tabs on, that would be a loan deal. We have next to no chance of a permanent deal. However, he has impressed during pre-season, and QPR want him around the first team squad. We’ve registered our interest, and are in dialogue with QPR, Gubbins and his agent, but nothing is happening there.

We did look at a loanee central midfielder, but that was before Wes signed, so we’ve stuck a pin in that one.

I know we’ve spoken to West Ham about potential loans, however, I don’t know what position that’s for, or how recent it was. It may have been for a midfielder before Wes and the other loanee we looked at. It may have been for a second choice goalkeeper, a defender or striker, I’ve not been given a name on that one.

Kev & co want a “permanent” squad. They want to avoid what happened with Brunt & Lopata. I imagine the loan market will be used if it’s required, and who knows, we may see one or two added to the squad before the big kick off.

So what you're saying is Kev doesn't want us to keep on falling in love with players that aren't ours?

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

We don’t have a spare six figure sum laying around.

It would have been paid over the length of his contract, just like a signing on fee. We are still very much living hand to mouth in terms of finances.

We have discussed a permanent deal for Lopata, but nothing is happening at the moment. They don’t want to sell at the minute, they want Lopata on a new deal, to then loan out. Lopata doesn’t want to sign a new deal.

Gubbins is another we are keeping tabs on, that would be a loan deal. We have next to no chance of a permanent deal. However, he has impressed during pre-season, and QPR want him around the first team squad. We’ve registered our interest, and are in dialogue with QPR, Gubbins and his agent, but nothing is happening there.

We did look at a loanee central midfielder, but that was before Wes signed, so we’ve stuck a pin in that one.

I know we’ve spoken to West Ham about potential loans, however, I don’t know what position that’s for, or how recent it was. It may have been for a midfielder before Wes and the other loanee we looked at. It may have been for a second choice goalkeeper, a defender or striker, I’ve not been given a name on that one.

Kev & co want a “permanent” squad. They want to avoid what happened with Brunt & Lopata. I imagine the loan market will be used if it’s required, and who knows, we may see one or two added to the squad before the big kick off.

Thanks for your thorough response and for getting things back on topic.

I wasn't for one minute suggesting we had a load of money lying around. That's why I said if we paid it in installments like we were trying to do with Kelly. I was just asking the question whether the Blades would entertain that. You've cleared that up too. Surely once the stalemate ends between club and player, they'd rather receive something for him, than lose him on a free when his contract runs out. Mind you, they would probably be due compensation anyway right?

Would you say that the business for another striker is dead now?

I'll reiterate what I always say to you. Your updates are very much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[BoyWonder2]

Thanks for your thorough response and for getting things back on topic.

I wasn't for one minute suggesting we had a load of money lying around. That's why I said if we paid it in installments like we were trying to do with Kelly. I was just asking the question whether the Blades would entertain that. You've cleared that up too. Surely once the stalemate ends between club and player, they'd rather receive something for him, than lose him on a free when his contract runs out. Mind you, they would probably be due compensation anyway right?

Would you say that the business for another striker is dead now?

I'll reiterate what I always say to you. Your updates are very much appreciated. Thanks.

Sheffield United will be due compensation for Lopata once his deal runs out, same as we were with Elvis. So if we did sign him then, we’d be a paying a fee. However, like Elvis, if he goes abroad, Sheffield United won’t receive a penny.

In terms of a forward, I could see someone coming in short term, at least whilst Murphy & Cardwell are unavailable.

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

Sheffield United will be due compensation for Lopata once his deal runs out, same as we were with Elvis. So if we did sign him then, we’d be a paying a fee. However, like Elvis, if he goes abroad, Sheffield United won’t receive a penny.

In terms of a forward, I could see someone coming in short term, at least whilst Murphy & Cardwell are unavailable.

Thanks!

It seems the power is with the club. They sell him now, they get their fee. They wait until next year, they still get compensation.

I really hope that he doesn't end up like Elvis. Not playing for a year and being frozen out. He is too good to let that happen. We saw it with Elvis. His stock was high and then had a break from playing and all of a sudden, his stock was low. Let's hope Lopata can get it sorted.

 

[fredheim_holm]

Thanks!

It seems the power is with the club. They sell him now, they get their fee. They wait until next year, they still get compensation.

I really hope that he doesn't end up like Elvis. Not playing for a year and being frozen out. He is too good to let that happen. We saw it with Elvis. His stock was high and then had a break from playing and all of a sudden, his stock was low. Let's hope Lopata can get it sorted.

It’s a risky game to play though, as BW2 says if he goes abroad then there’s no compensation, and let’s not forget he’s Poland U21 captain so you’d expect he’d have offers to move there for a year or two which might be tempting given his roots.

We may end up being very well placed once the EFL transfer window closes, to be likely the only club he would consider moving to who could actually bring him in straight away.

It’s not a good look for Sheff U to keep people against their wills to rot in the U23’s when a 6 figure offer is on the table and the guy has no EFL experience to justify a higher fee. It’s fair enough they don’t want to be seen to just fall to the players whims but holding out to the end would be bad for both parties.

I’m not ITK and it’s still unlikely but there’s still hope, but probably later in the year.

 

[Maldon Blues]

Kev & co want a “permanent” squad. They want to avoid what happened with Brunt & Lopata. I imagine the loan market will be used if it’s required, and who knows, we may see one or two added to the squad before the big kick off.

This is music to my ears. I'm always an advocate of avoiding loans where possible, albeit we have had some very good (and some extremely bad) ones over the years. Having loan players affects you building a squad and of course avoids the situation we had last season, notably with Lopata.

 

[undercovershrimper]

This is music to my ears. I'm always an advocate of avoiding loans where possible, albeit we have had some very good (and some extremely bad) ones over the years. Having loan players affects you building a squad and of course avoids the situation we had last season, notably with Lopata.

Always got room for a Petr Belsvik type tho!

 

[fbm]

Thanks!

It seems the power is with the club.

As it should be for young players. The club has made a significant investment in their development and are entitled to be rewarded for that,

 

[Texas Eslan]

We don’t have a spare six figure sum laying around.

It would have been paid over the length of his contract, just like a signing on fee. We are still very much living hand to mouth in terms of finances.

We have discussed a permanent deal for Lopata, but nothing is happening at the moment. They don’t want to sell at the minute, they want Lopata on a new deal, to then loan out. Lopata doesn’t want to sign a new deal.

Gubbins is another we are keeping tabs on, that would be a loan deal. We have next to no chance of a permanent deal. However, he has impressed during pre-season, and QPR want him around the first team squad. We’ve registered our interest, and are in dialogue with QPR, Gubbins and his agent, but nothing is happening there.

We did look at a loanee central midfielder, but that was before Wes signed, so we’ve stuck a pin in that one.

I know we’ve spoken to West Ham about potential loans, however, I don’t know what position that’s for, or how recent it was. It may have been for a midfielder before Wes and the other loanee we looked at. It may have been for a second choice goalkeeper, a defender or striker, I’ve not been given a name on that one.

Kev & co want a “permanent” squad. They want to avoid what happened with Brunt & Lopata. I imagine the loan market will be used if it’s required, and who knows, we may see one or two added to the squad before the big kick off.

Thanks BW. Given both our centre half targets mentioned are looking unlikely at the moment, are you aware if we have any others lined up as possibles?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

As it should be for young players. The club has made a significant investment in their development and are entitled to be rewarded for that,

True, but employers shouldn’t be able to hold employees hostage. It wouldn’t happen anywhere else, and all employers should be investing in the skills of their employees but those employees are free to leave.

Some kind of middle ground whereby players can change clubs if they wish to, but clubs are compensated reasonably, should be in place. To be fair, most of that system is in place but it should be tweaked to enable players to move for a fair compensation (probably set by a tribunal, or standard formula) even if the current club doesn’t want to do business.

That might also have the added benefit of making clubs think twice about treating players like the Blades did with Kacper last season. It was no risk to them to pull him back to sit on the bench, then not give him a chance.

This is not a fully formed, or informed, suggestion but I do think there needs to be an adjustment because the current situation isn‘t always serving the employee’s best interests (just the club’s, in Kacper’s scenario).

 

[Shrimpergonzo]

It’s a risky game to play though, as BW2 says if he goes abroad then there’s no compensation, and let’s not forget he’s Poland U21 captain so you’d expect he’d have offers to move there for a year or two which might be tempting given his roots.

I think the point is a good one, but just for clarification, Kacper is not the U-21 captain, he was the U-20 captain and has just broken into the U-21 side,

I think U-21 football is a whole different kettle of fish in terms of quality and status to U-20. However he is still clearly well thought of in his home country and maybe wanted by a club over there in 12 months if there’s no fee involved.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The Wet Spam loan idea is a good one, about 8 or 9 of their U21 players looked very good when they demolished us in the tinpot trophy a while back, yet don't seem to break into Moyes's squads. However not being a Premship follower I may have missed out on them altogether..

 

[Maldon Blues]

Always got room for a Petr Belsvik type tho!

I had high hopes after his debut headed goal vs Stoke!

 

[amsemp]

From Sheffield United’s perspective, the Lopata situation really needs sorting. There must come a point where they need to make a judgement call on whether that relationship is repairable and if not, they need to cut their losses. If Lopata’s made it clear he won’t sign on the terms Sheffield United want him on, maybe it’s time for plan B.

Not saying they should sell to us (although obviously it would be nice). But having an unhappy player sitting around for a year who isn’t in the squad and isn’t on loan would surely affect the amount they’re likely to get from tribunal. Not to mention it’s a year of no senior football at a pretty critical stage in his development.

Even if he didn’t sign a new deal, they’d still surely be better loaning him back to us for the last year of his deal. He’d be at a club he knows well, with a management team who rate him and can get the best out of him and a set of fans who love him. You’d hope we’d be favourably placed to put him in the shop window and increase his tribunal potential if nothing else.

 

[Benfleetboy]

Bet365 offering Nile Ranger @ 101/1 to be top NL scorer this coming season.

No odds for Wreh as yet.

 

[Yer Blues]

Bet365 offering Nile Ranger @ 101/1 to be top EFL scorer this coming season.

No odds for Wreah as yet.

Not surprising as he's not in the EFL