He will run and run but I don’t think he’s strong enough for the central role and is more suited to the wide role. We need a more Wayne Gray/Martin Carruthers type.
There’s a thread to discuss Flahavan in ex-Shrimpers so let’s stay on topic please.
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Transfer News and Gossip Summer/Autumn Transfer Targets/Rumours Thread 2022
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He will run and run but I don’t think he’s strong enough for the central role and is more suited to the wide role. We need a more Wayne Gray/Martin Carruthers type.
amsemp
Director⭐🦐
There’s a few big lumps who are/might be available, who on paper might be decent.
Free agents:
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One year left on deal:
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Quigley looks to be out of favour at Chesterfield and Bloomfield is an interesting one. Bromley appear to loaded full of strikers and appears there are others in front of him.
Oh and Paul McCallum has one year left on his deal…
Free agents:
Tom Elliott (footballer, born 1990) - Wikipedia
One year left on deal:
Danny Mills (footballer, born 1991) - Wikipedia
Joe Quigley - Wikipedia
Mason Bloomfield - Wikipedia
Quigley looks to be out of favour at Chesterfield and Bloomfield is an interesting one. Bromley appear to loaded full of strikers and appears there are others in front of him.
Oh and Paul McCallum has one year left on his deal…
palexander
Life President
I've always liked to see us have a go for Tom Elliot.There’s a few big lumps who are/might be available, who on paper might be decent.
Free agents:
Tom Elliott (footballer, born 1990) - Wikipedia
One year left on deal:
Danny Mills (footballer, born 1991) - Wikipedia
Joe Quigley - Wikipedia
Mason Bloomfield - Wikipedia
Quigley looks to be out of favour at Chesterfield and Bloomfield is an interesting one. Bromley appear to loaded full of strikers and appears there are others in front of him.
Oh and Paul McCallum has one year left on his deal…
fredheim_holm
Where art thou Tes 🦐
I assume you're not talking about physical strength here. He might be a bit small height wise for the central role but I wouldn't doubt his physical strength.
overseas shrimper
Life President⭐🦐
Yeah, @Yorkshire Blue bet you couldn't 'ave 'im.
He’s strong for his size rather than strong. That’s fine when up against a full-back but more problematic when up against the 6 foot 4 ****house centre-halves he’ll come up against when playing centrally.
Thundersley Blue
Coach⭐🦐
Should Kev and Co feel we need more up front, then I assume the loan market will come into play. If we signed someone else on a contract, it wouldn't be money well spent once Cardwell and Murphy are fit. I can't wait to see Wreh play and was disappointed when he wasn't available Saturday. You never know what might happen and the Club can't afford to spend good money for a bench warmer several months down the road. Obviously that could turn out to be Murphy or Cardwell. Either way money that would be best spent elsewhere.
Someone mentioned Gubbins earlier, QPR have decided that for the moment he will be part of their 1st team squad. I suppose that doesn't mean the situation couldn't change later.
Someone mentioned Gubbins earlier, QPR have decided that for the moment he will be part of their 1st team squad. I suppose that doesn't mean the situation couldn't change later.
kentblues
Director⭐
The thing is we have shown as far as I can make out no interest in large target man types of strikers? Kelly certainly wasn't? Powell was brought in as a striker not a winger. We have Cardwell & Dalby and I can't see another target man coming in. Cardwell and Dalby are both pretty mobile too.
Probably your 6'4" lump of a NL CB would far rather be up against a similar sized CF than have the likes of Wreh and Powell running at them. We have got to play to our strengths. So for example delighted given our lack of target men in the games Ive seen we have consistently played out from the back. In the past we would have been still hoofing it up to striker giving away a foot in height
Probably your 6'4" lump of a NL CB would far rather be up against a similar sized CF than have the likes of Wreh and Powell running at them. We have got to play to our strengths. So for example delighted given our lack of target men in the games Ive seen we have consistently played out from the back. In the past we would have been still hoofing it up to striker giving away a foot in height
THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK
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Brian Clough used to say, if football was meant to be played in the air, there would be ref's in the clouds. He also said, Keep it simple, keep it on the ground, foot ball is a clue.
Texas Eslan
Striker
Why are we even discussing reverting to a big lump up top? Surely this is PB territory in terms of playing style. From what I can see we are looking to move the ball quickly and attack at speed. Most likely set up for counter attacking away from home.
With the exception of Man City now signing Haaland, the last few years they have played with pace and movement up top and not a big man in sight. Same for Liverpool.
Blues4LifeDan
Manager
You are spot on with what you say. We definitely are trying to play a different way. We have to commend Kev for doing that, as it isn't easy to do in the lower leagues.
However, you do worry that when we inevitably start to pump it long, it will keep coming back because we don't currently have anyone to win headers. That started to become apparent in the second half against the Gills.
One slight criticism of Kev last season, was he rarely deviated away from plan A. We have a lot of hard games in the first month, ones where we won't dominate the possession and we may have to go long. We can't do that with the current personnel available. Be interesting to see what happens.
Rattus Norvegicus
Dullard ①
Yes. With 3 in the management team, they should between them be able to identify how to change the team and play during the game & act accordingly in a timely manner .......... however, if you really feel that your best XI is already on the pitch ............
I certainly got the feeling with long established players like Timlin, the other members of the team were told, on occasion, in no uncertain terms quite what was expected of them.
I certainly got the feeling with long established players like Timlin, the other members of the team were told, on occasion, in no uncertain terms quite what was expected of them.
Medway Blue
Trust chairman/glutton for punishment ⭐🦐
I don't know about anybody else but that's certainly not what I'm saying. I want to see us move the ball quickly and attack at speed too, but I also want us to be a danger from set pieces and from crosses into the box from out wide. Why can't we be try be all things and cover all bases rather than just one? Many of us on here have slated previous managers for a lack of a Plan B, or for being too one-dimensional. I don't want us to deploy a target man or hoof it up to a big man but at present we have absolutely no aerial presence up top whatsoever and we are powder puff from corners, free-kicks and crosses. Especially without Cardwell.
davewebbsbrain
Webby⭐🦐
Wreh looks better in 2 games than Goodship ever did. I think Wreh will be fine.
He looked one of the better players when he came on against Col Ewe. Strong, good movement and willing to take players on
One of his first signings was a big target man in Cardwell - and this when we already had Dalby (who fwiw played near enough every minute for Maher). Cardwell is more than a target man as he’s mobile. We don’t want just a lump but someone who is mobile.
Teams need an outlet. Even if you are trying to play out from the back you need that outlet : it can be to relieve pressure; to allow teams to mix it up; to keep opponents honest. When we played the best passing football I’ve seen us play under Tilly we always had a target man: Wayne Gray, Shaun Goater, Lead Bradbury then numerous unsuccessful attempts to recruit them: Michael Ricketts, Matt Harrold, Billy Paynter, Alex Revell etc. Tilly knew the importance of them and how they let a team play it on the ground.
Why are we even discussing how teams with £100m defenders play? They can afford to play in a way we can’t. We’re going to try and play out from the back where we can but we haven’t the players who can do that every time. We will therefore need to knock it long at times and we then need someone who can bring it down to let us get back to playing football again.
The better the target man the more you play it on the ground as they will get it down. Otherwise the ball goes back and forth in the air, waiting for someone good enough to bring it down.
onceknownasrab
President
Going long is a really poor move at almost any point in the game and generally smacks of desperation. We have seen, for years, in Lg 1,2 and the :NL, there are enough mountains in defence that can shuffle three steps to their side and head the ball away when they are facing it. The only time to lift the ball is when you get in behind the defence, turning the defenders, and then the result of the cross is more of a lottery. Even then a low fizzed in ball can be equally devastating.
Height is handy at set pieces, often for no more than a flick on, and the 'big unit' up front can also hold the ball up and not be out muscled. In fact set pieces do not rely on the big striker because that's what you send your defenders up for.
Pace, passing and penetration are the three keys to unlocking defences. Keep it low, don't dwell and make each move count. Our side has the tools to make that work but, as yet, I have not witnessed consistency of execution. Picking the right pass and indecision have cost us dearly in the final third. I do think it will improve and I believe we will be a handful for most teams.
At this moment, with the personnel we have, I think our level of success will depend on a number of factors. Have all the ex-part timers got up to speed? Will our past record of injuries improve? Are our best players consistent enough? Do we have the plan B our opposition regularly demonstrates against us? Plenty more questions where they came from.
I fully expect a good tilt at the play-offs this season and very possibly a dabble at the autos. Much of that faith comes from the perceived unity of the squad. It's an ingredient that makes up for a lot of short comings.
It’s less height (although that is a factor) than play strength. You want someone who you can play the ball into and they can hold off defenders and won’t get outmuscled off by the big centre-halves. Top flight players can do this but players lower down the pyramid struggle more with it. Some have made lower league careers out of just being able to do just this one thing. We’ll be looking for someone less one dimensional than that though.
Rattus Norvegicus
Dullard ①
Yes & no.
I remember a game away at Hereford, ball lumped forward, then Blair onto Corr & within 3 seconds the ball was in the old onion bag. I can't say I like that sort of football but I doubt the Hereford goalkeeper thought it was a really poor move as he bent down to pick the ball up from the back of the net.
I prefer free flowing attacking moves with delightful skills on show but over the last few years just getting some points on the board was the main priority. I'm still very pleased we aren't lining up in the Conference South this season.
SeldomSeenShrimper
Youth Team
Theo Robinson was prolific first time around from long balls
Blues4LifeDan
Manager
I totally agree with you. I'm sure the management team and the players all want to play that way too. However, the reality is that we are in the NL and executing that nice brand of football isn't easy.
You rightly state about consistency but we won't see that, that's why these players are playing at NL level.
Therefore, a plan B is needed for when things aren't working the way we want. That doesn't mean just bang the ball down the field and hope for the best. Playing balls into areas and turning the opposition towards their own goal is sometimes needed.
I thought Wreh did that really effectively. He ran channels and got the defence going towards their goal. Dalby doesn't do that. He wants the ball to feet. The problem with that is there is no one in the box. This happened countless times against Col U.
The one thing I've noticed and it will annoy fans after a while, is that so far in preseason (against comparable opposition), we have passed the ball around really nicely but have looked fairly toothless up top. Hopefully Wreh will help rectify that.
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