SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[Bigstutyler]

I’m thick skinned enough to not care about what gets said at me, really couldn’t careless but there’s many people who are on here who have seen evidence of everything I’ve stated and claimed.

I don’t wish I had not started posting to help people stay in the loop. Most people on here who are saying what they are, are saying it based on having zero knowledge of what is actually going on, on how business works or what’s next.

I continue to say what I’ve said, I’m highly confident we get bought and have a brighter future. It may not happen with a timeline people are happy with, but at the end of the day, life can be disappointing.

Just my thoughts =

I am sure everyone is appreciative of any snippets of info from @CRATE but i also find it a little patronising when saying "on how business works" you have no idea what peoples background is and i am sure you have not had experience of acquisitions of this type yourself.

I agree people have Zero knowledge of what's going on or what's next ...... and that's the issue. Without any evidence or statements of intentions or outlining a plan moving forward we are just being led by random posts, sometimes cryptic, from alleged ITK's.

@CRATE i have been fully onboard and never questioned your information but there comes a point where the cat must be let out of the bag strategically to force specific modules of any acquisition talks if one side are proving difficult. If those actions dont shift the narrative more towards the final deal and takeover then simply the deal is stale mate and we will never move forward. Without knowledge of who or what the 5 are we could be backing a horse and willing the deal over the line only to find we have 5 medium wealth owners and in a similar position of languishing in the lower leagues forever.

Again i am not stupid and this whole situation has only RON to blame but with a slippery operator like RON you have to play him at his own game or he will always have the upper hand.

 

[Avl1983]

I'd take languishing in the lower leagues if we just had a club that was run correctly

 

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[MikeLapper]

I still find the whole Kimura thing incredibly frustrating and rather odd.

Why did Ron agree a deal with them but never see it through? I understand that it’s his club and he can sell to who he chooses but why agree a deal in the first place?

Ron is a complete loon and I do fear he is going to cling onto the club somehow.

 

[CRATE]

Just my thoughts =

I am sure everyone is appreciative of any snippets of info from @CRATE but i also find it a little patronising when saying "on how business works" you have no idea what peoples background is and i am sure you have not had experience of acquisitions of this type yourself.

I am the Commercial Director of a business that buys and sells sports publishing brands and MD of one of the publishing brands in Boxing. I feel well placed to talk about mergers and acquisitions in sport. And this is actually the reason I know anything about what has been going on the past few weeks mate.

I appreciate I don’t know everyone’s backgrounds. But absolute facts people are making things up in their own head and that is what is scaring the fans!

 

[Blue Yonder]

I still find the whole Kimura thing incredibly frustrating and rather odd.

Why did Ron agree a deal with them but never see it through? I understand that it’s his club and he can sell to who he chooses but why agree a deal in the first place?

Ron is a complete loon and I do fear he is going to cling onto the club somehow.

Yes... months ago we had 'wallop', 95% done reported and even apparently RM telling the players when discussing their wages he'd sold. Then something changed. Presumably he realised he couldn't make the numbers stack up building a new stadium at FF and hence RH suddenly came into play which was originally reported as off the table.

 

[Blue Yonder]

There is also the reported personality clash with the agent/broker which won't have helped.

 

[borientater]

I am the Commercial Director of a business that buys and sells sports publishing brands and MD of one of the publishing brands in Boxing. I feel well placed to talk about mergers and acquisitions in sport. And this is actually the reason I know anything about what has been going on the past few weeks mate.

I appreciate I don’t know everyone’s backgrounds. But absolute facts people are making things up in their own head and that is what is scaring the fans!

And there was me thinking you was just some nutter with a microphone

 

[Colblue]

I am the Commercial Director of a business that buys and sells sports publishing brands and MD of one of the publishing brands in Boxing. I feel well placed to talk about mergers and acquisitions in sport. And this is actually the reason I know anything about what has been going on the past few weeks mate.

I appreciate I don’t know everyone’s backgrounds. But absolute facts people are making things up in their own head and that is what is scaring the fans!

Hi Crate, I’m a Col U fan but all rivalries for me are safely locked up in a box until the glorious day we play you again a EFL local derby. I just want to see our biggest rivals get through this awful Ron fuelled mess and on a path where all can start worrying about what happens on the pitch and not off the pitch.
So as one footy lover to another, I’m not questioning you or the validity of your information. All I would say is that the passion in your supporters base is all top drawer and I’ve watched these threads going from excitement of FF all the way through to literally not knowing if you’ll even exist in 3 weeks time. In that journey it’s right that any info of what is going on known by ITK’s is tempered and drip fed, but you’re now at a stage of watching what literally could be the last plays of trying to save the club. For me the time to dilute info is gone and everyone deserves to see the full picture. Everyone knows Ron probably has anterior motives and as soon as anyone gets close to his asks, he changes them and moves the goalposts. It’s been seen that Ron can’t stand people outside his house, it’s got results of extra info.
So in short ITK’s should now give a full picture so people can protest. From outside in it looks like most people will watch the first game rather than ramp up protests and boycotts that will really hurt him. I would hate to see you all just blindly limp to the cliff edge and jump off like mindless lemmings

 

[Bigstutyler]

I am the Commercial Director of a business that buys and sells sports publishing brands and MD of one of the publishing brands in Boxing. I feel well placed to talk about mergers and acquisitions in sport. And this is actually the reason I know anything about what has been going on the past few weeks mate.

I appreciate I don’t know everyone’s backgrounds. But absolute facts people are making things up in their own head and that is what is scaring the fans!

@CRATE fair play and i have stupidly done the same not actually asking your qualifications in this area like i have accuse you of.

Everyone is on edge

Let me put it another way, would you send your grandmother of 80 to buy a car from a mid 20s roadman used car salesman ? Or would you send someone with a bit more savy to get a good deal.

By no stretch of the imagination do i think any of the 5 are anything but professional and people i would happily want to buy the club. But they are dealing with Ron Martin so need to think outside of the box to get a deal done. this isnt a normal human they are trying to deal with.

 

[Mad Cyril]

There is also the reported personality clash with the agent/broker which won't have helped.

Sounds the agent/broker is a bit of a **** because it can't be Ron.

 

[JAL]

It's not unusual that agents/brokers/solicitors can/will try and drag out deals to get more money as well, is there a chance that Ron is being coached to go at higher asking price so the agents get more money for the time they're spending?

 

[Sussexshrimper]

When Ron stops being a ****

Exatcly ..****in arsehole is con martin

 

[Stan33]

Really?

Y ,he’s a journalist ,he just want’s people to listen /read his words

 

[BEERMONSTER]

I still find the whole Kimura thing incredibly frustrating and rather odd.

Why did Ron agree a deal with them but never see it through? I understand that it’s his club and he can sell to who he chooses but why agree a deal in the first place?

Ron is a complete loon and I do fear he is going to cling onto the club somehow.

To attempt to understand this you have to buy in to the fact RM perfered outcome was to obtain investors and stay in control. The selling of the Club is and always has been a plan B the Kimura bid was used as a benchmark for others to better, a tool to be used just like the various deadline windows to try to and stay in power and control. We will only see him depart if he fails to obtain the investment, then you need arguably a better bid than the carrot figures he made public.

 

[annie1954]

I still find the whole Kimura thing incredibly frustrating and rather odd.

Why did Ron agree a deal with them but never see it through? I understand that it’s his club and he can sell to who he chooses but why agree a deal in the first place?

Ron is a complete loon and I do fear he is going to cling onto the club somehow.

I think if he stays on and results are bad gradually the gates will drop down if people realise he’s hanging on it will do the no good at all he must go and disappear for ever

 

[Flinty]

Yes... months ago we had 'wallop', 95% done reported and even apparently RM telling the players when discussing their wages he'd sold. Then something changed. Presumably he realised he couldn't make the numbers stack up building a new stadium at FF and hence RH suddenly came into play which was originally reported as off the table.

Or it brought him another month with the courts perhaps

 

[E for B and Billy Best]

It's laughable that RM has had to go to the otherside of the world to find an investor dumb enough to line up to get ripped off by him.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

. That said I will be continuing to grace Ronny Manor when the call goes out, crutch and all.

I look forward to having another chat with you tomorrow!.

 

[Ex-SouthendUnitedEmployee]

I'm starting to think that 'selling' the club has been a smoke screen to buy more time at HMRC as it was the last card that could be played.