SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[Flinty]

and Ray Parlour

And Andrew Dallas

 

[Boreham Blue]

Whilst I get that RM is such a bizarrely wired character that he wouldn't want a new owner proving him wrong I thing he is more money motivated and any negative towards Kimura must be more likely driven by less personal gain rather than a dislike for them.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Whilst I think it’s a fair idea, it doesnt help facilitate getting RM out of the club - which is the clear priority for everyone involved.

Get Martin out, then look at the remaining shares if you wanted complete ownership.

I completely agree with you it doesnt

 

[Blue Yonder]

I imagine that RM is used to dealing with business people at the same level (or in his eyes way beneath him). He has therefore always been able to get one over on them or play small businesses off of each other to get his own way and screw people over.

I would imagine that Kimura are in a completely different league and his usual style of negotiations (my way or get lost) simply won't wash anymore. That along with some serious DD have led to him being exposed for the arsehole he is.

He fights back in the only way left open to him, be bloody awkward, deflect blame and divide and conquer by any means necessary.

There does seem to be a personality clash at the heart of this. It’s not true RM hasn’t dealt with some big hitters in his time though. He does appear to be somewhat friendless now with just family rallying round.

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

There does seem to be a personality clash at the heart of this. It’s not true RM hasn’t dealt with some big hitters in his time though. He does appear to be somewhat friendless now with just family rallying round.

It's not a clash of personalities between the guys at Kimura and Martin - direct comms between them have been the definition of light-touch over the last few weeks from what I hear. Discussions between Laurie Pinto and Martin is another matter entirely...

 

[ChalkwellShrimper]

Something for the Trust to think about perhaps.
Ron, or SEL, has 70.1 pct of the shares of SUFC. Nobody has paid any attention to the the other 29.9 pct.
Assuming the club survives (not a given of course) could not efforts be made to buy some or all of the shares owned by the OTHER shareholders.
A significant part of the ownership would then be in the hands of the fans and their representatives, leading to one or two seats on the board.

I'm open to offers. But only from the Shrimpers Trust. And Kimura. But not Ron, definitely not Ron.

 

[Cricko]

It's not a clash of personalities between the guys at Kimura and Martin - direct comms between them have been the definition of light-touch over the last few weeks from what I hear. Discussions between Laurie Pinto and Martin is another matter entirely...

That seems to have broken down now to as JD has stepped into the middle of those two as mediator. The whole thing is becoming farcical.

 

[Blue Yonder]

It's not a clash of personalities between the guys at Kimura and Martin - direct comms between them have been the definition of light-touch over the last few weeks from what I hear. Discussions between Laurie Pinto and Martin is another matter entirely...

Pinto Is an agent ? Get a different agent ?

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

That seems to have broken down now to as JD has stepped into the middle of those two as mediator. The whole thing is becoming farcical.

Not surprising in the slightest given the fact Pinto would eat Martin for breakfast. Ron must seem so unbelievably tinpot compared to the big-hitters he's dealt with in the past.

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

Pinto Is an agent ? Get a different agent ?

He's a football financier working on the coalface of discussions on behalf of Kimura. His track-record is extensive to say the least.

 

[Hampshire Shrimp]

Pinto Is an agent ? Get a different agent ?

I don`t think the agent is the problem

 

[NZamba Legend]

He's a football financier working on the coalface of discussions on behalf of Kimura. His track-record is extensive to say the least.

Ron track record of bull**** is pretty extensive to be fair

 

[BEERMONSTER]

That seems to have broken down now to as JD has stepped into the middle of those two as mediator. The whole thing is becoming farcical.

A new mediator might help

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

He didn’t neglect the football side, he continuously backed managers who decided to sign a lot of players on big contracts, a few of whom got a lot of injuries or were simply too old to perform well.

He did lose young players on free transfers because his wallet was too tight for better contracts that they deserved.

He did neglect the tax side of things for over a decade and eventually got caught out by missing the EFL membership money + COVID.

He did put too much faith in the wrong people. (Brown/Duncan…)

You are both right. There were times he backed the football side too enthusiastically (Peter Clarke, Michael Kightly, Rob Kiernan etc) and backed the wrong people but also times he completely neglected it (Sol Campbell was under an embargo for his entire reign, that period without a CEO, the last year etc).

For those that haven't seen the comments...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681401608624545793

Matt Slater is a good source but he’s not infallible. He’s been off on this process before (he expected things to be resolved in days when DD was always likely to take weeks) and his comments should be read with the knowledge that his sources are likely in the Kimura camp and will therefore have an agenda. As ever it’s a good idea to keep an open mind.

Criticising Ron for changing the deal is also weird. If Kimura were good with the deal that was on the table wouldn’t they have completed by now?

 

[overseas shrimper]

But RM has said publicly he wants to sell the club to Kimura. Is that confirmation he does not want to?

Knowing Ron... yes it is.

 

[hlane17]

That seems to have broken down now to as JD has stepped into the middle of those two as mediator. The whole thing is becoming farcical.

It's a joke considering what's at stake right now to be honest.

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

It's a joke considering what's at stake right now to be honest.

Martin needs someone he perceives to be an ally here and JD is just that

 

[dusterman]

Martin needs someone he perceives to be an ally here and JD is just that

Shows how stupid he really is. Trust a politician, inherently a shocking idea. But if you’re viewing this Ronald, trust him he never thinks of himself. He won’t let you down brother Ron.

 

[Leeboy]

Martin needs someone he perceives to be an ally here and JD is just that

I honestly read these last few posts as JD - Jason Demetriou

 

[hlane17]

Martin needs someone he perceives to be an ally here and JD is just that

Does he need his dummy too? What a prat.