SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[kevin_h]

Redeveloping RH could cost less than paying a premium for a ground that may never make it to construction. I know what I'd choose in this scenario. One stadium exists, the other doesn't.

If new owners were to own the Roots Hall site, they would have lots of freedom to pick and choose what facilities they add to the stadium.

Not to mention, it would probably take a similar amount of time to spruce RH up as it would to have an entire new stadium built.

As for the additional revenues, they will not be forthcoming in the next few years or so anyway so likely makes no difference to any buying party. They know they're inheriting a loss making venture and need to turn it around to add value to the club.

They know the club will be running at a loss until it is made sustainable by whatever means, whether that be a new ground, making our current ground better, or simply being rid of Ron's incompetence that costs us dearly.

If we stay at RH where will the players train? Doesn't RM own the land where B&L is and the new training pitches?

 

[Smiffy]

I agree with this, the only thing is we wouldnt be able to increase capacity I guess. I only say that due to the surroundings and invading natural light into properties etc. If we could expand then it could meet our needs if we were to move up the leagues and would also help to be more sustainable obviously

Capacity could be increased I reckon, not massively. But with careful planning I believe we could get up to around 15-16,000 capacity. Which is what Ron is proposing at FF. That would do us to Championship level.

 

[Boreham Blue]

Again... how? Why?

How much to redevelop? Is there even room to redevelop all sides?

Then going forward, how do we make the revenue that is apparently required to self-sustain the club?

Really cant see it working :(

But Sherif can and that's his job

 

[hlane17]

For some reason this morning I have real faith that we are stumbling our way towards a positive conclusion to this mess.

 

[hlane17]

If we stay at RH where will the players train? Doesn't RM own the land where B&L is and the new training pitches?

There's been hardly any mention of this aspect of any deal. As the new training ground is already sorted, perhaps the club could acquire it or at the very least lease it?

 

[Strykr]

There's been hardly any mention of this aspect of any deal. As the new training ground is already sorted, perhaps the club could acquire it or at the very least lease it?

Rm wont need a training ground. He said it cost him 2 mill. Maybe 2.5 mill will buy it.

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

I agree with this, the only thing is we wouldnt be able to increase capacity I guess. I only say that due to the surroundings and invading natural light into properties etc. If we could expand then it could meet our needs if we were to move up the leagues and would also help to be more sustainable obviously

I go in the west stand. My spend on match days apart from the ticket is zero. Partly because I have an aversion to shoddy burgers and watered down coffee. I don't drink during the day as I'd fall asleep, probably during the match. Being a terrace unless we dig down and rebuild totally providing space for bars etc we're lumbered with rooms tacked onto the existing structure for small bars and toilets. Even with a tarted up west stand my net spend will contine to be zero. With a new owner i'd happily donate a tenner per match to club funds in lieu of a burger.

 

[defender05]

The main problem with redeveloping Roots Hall is you would need to start the planning permission all over again. We are currently limited to how high the South stand can go so we would probable need to rotate the pitch and that would mean a ground share for a few years and if you wanted to hold concerts/conventions when completed where will people park?

 

[Strykr]

The main problem with redeveloping Roots Hall is you would need to start the planning permission all over again. We are currently limited to how high the South stand can go so we would probable need to rotate the pitch and that would mean a ground share for a few years and if you wanted to hold concerts/conventions when completed where will people park?

Ah but our politicians have staked their reputation on doing anything to help the club now .

As for parking. There must be somewhere people can do a park n ride scheme?

 

[Ian Benjamin]

Indeed buying RH with the agreement to sell back if the new stadium is built has always been what I would want as a buyer. That way I’m not buying the club and a promise but the club and a valuable asset (I have a good degree of protection). And it’s a simpler transaction. In fact in the video Ron was suggesting delayed payment on RH as well. We need to hear from Kimura.

This must be the simpler deal, AF was referring to. It immediately deals with the Bury situation, the new owner also owns the ground. If FF isn’t delivered, the club continues with a home.

If it is, then the club get a new home and RM gets to knock Roots Hall and deliver the housing.

A new planning application on FF is too expensive, too risky and will take too long to be classed as a simpler solution.

 

[Alexshrimper]

If Kimura are watching - please do what you can to help.

This is the thing they are watching

Both k camp and Ron camp will be Monitering SZ

 

[GSW Shrimper]

This is the thing they are watching

Both k camp and Ron camp will be Monitering SZ

Why?

 

[Smiffy]

The main problem with redeveloping Roots Hall is you would need to start the planning permission all over again. We are currently limited to how high the South stand can go so we would probable need to rotate the pitch and that would mean a ground share for a few years and if you wanted to hold concerts/conventions when completed where will people park?

Realistically, you probably wouldn't re-develop the South stand. Make it better, for sure.

The East stand would be the one that would see the biggest transformation.

The video above on the Pompey re-development, shows what can be done and with a reasonable budget.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Capacity could be increased I reckon, not massively. But with careful planning I believe we could get up to around 15-16,000 capacity. Which is what Ron is proposing at FF. That would do us to Championship level.

Volume wise i agree, just do not think we can get bigger stands on the west and south due to backing on to residential properties.

 

[Shrimper]

The main problem with redeveloping Roots Hall is you would need to start the planning permission all over again. We are currently limited to how high the South stand can go so we would probable need to rotate the pitch and that would mean a ground share for a few years and if you wanted to hold concerts/conventions when completed where will people park?

I would assume a new South Stand would be along the disused land next to the Shop

 

[Strykr]

Volume wise i agree, just do not think we can get bigger stands on the west and south due to backing on to residential properties.

Maybe those flats could be bought and knocked down and we get our huge south stand back .

(Im only dreaming)

 

[Cricko]

Volume wise i agree, just do not think we can get bigger stands on the west and south due to backing on to residential properties.

Maybe so but that leaves huge "opportunities" (I hate that word now) for the North bank and East stand.

 

[E for B and Billy Best]

One way would be to stop paying numerous late fines, legal fees and interest on borrowings, let alone the amount that must of gone down the toilet re the plans at FF and beyond.

Oh yes and stop highering ****ing Helicopters!

Sums him up, staff four months in klartz and he highers a helicopter to Royal Ascot. What a dirty arse'ole he is.

 

[hlane17]

Maybe so but that leaves huge "opportunities" (I hate that word now) for the North bank and East stand.

Maybe one day that word 'oppportunity' will mean something when we're no longer hearing it come out of RM's mouth.

 

[Sherif H]

There's been hardly any mention of this aspect of any deal. As the new training ground is already sorted, perhaps the club could acquire it or at the very least lease it?

I'd compromise on a deal whereby RH is owned by the new party, and the new training ground freehold is retained by Ron and leased out to said new owner.