Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United 0-1 Yeovil Town

[Leigh_Seasider]

Lots said about the ref and the 4th official but I’ve no idea why Jeacock was out that far as that has changed the game. Taking off Walker and leaving the excellent Pepple up top alone I feared damage limitation, so it was to an extent.

Yeovil kept the ball well and knew how to win free kicks and frustrate us. Again we couldn’t break down a defence and find a way through, the extra man worked in their favour. We weren’t quick enough in committing men forward and getting it in the box (caution?). That extra touch always. We need to find ways of mixing it up and winning these matches. We can’t always pass it in, we do lack some physicality and a bit of a ‘nasty’ side still.

 

[It'sGrimUpNorth]

We were ****e
They were ****e
The ref was ****e
Nouble was ****e (seems to have not realised he’s now in the NL with Yeovil)
Kev needs to stop giving the 4th ****e
The signal is still ****e
An absolutely 10/10 ****e afternoon

Why are you trying to say?

 

[Suffolk Shrimper In Dorset]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1855344095859781789

Any truth in what he says about us not

providing stuff?

I understand there are restrictions on giving away tickets for FA Cup games due to the revenue share .... even if we wanted to give him a ticket why should Charlton conceed their share of that ticket cost?
If Yeovil wanted him to be there they should have bought him his ticket
Don't think our club has done anything wrong

 

[Cricko]

Maybe we need a bit of a reality check on here. We went down to 10 men following Zac's sending off and up until that point it was pretty much even stevens between the two teams. When you go down to 10 men it gets just gets quite a bit harder to play against 11 men (fact). We had to sacrifice a forward, and apart from the Yeovil goal, we defended pretty well. Did the ref affect the game? yes, but not because of her gender, more because she ref'd the game in such a way that the normal rough and tumble of the NL was not allowed, which in turn affected the game as a whole in terms of it flowing.

I just don't understand why the Maher out brigade jump on situations like yesterday to demand his removal, unless it's the only time they can find an opportunity to bitch. We are not the world beaters that everybody wants us to be, but we are improving, and it would not surprise me if we make the play-offs come the end of the season. On to Altrincham.

Personally i don't think we are improving, it's much of the same most weeks especially at home when we have lost so many recently, it hardly helps fans to enjoy the game. We try the same thing game after game with the ball mainly out to Bridge who still cannot cross a ball which i find ridiculous being a Pro footballer.

We are back to the very slow build up play allowing the opposition all the time in the world to get everybody back and pack their defence. Yesterday you knew we would struggle as soon as we took off a striker, IMO it would of been better to take off Bridge and allow Ralph to push up when needed. it was all about saving the game from that moment on not winning it and the fans knew it.

We haven't a Cat in Hells chance of getting out of this league playing the way we do.

 

[Holy Joe]

I had good view of the goal from the Greens. It was not a fluke, he meant it.

The player has said it was a mi**** cross - he didn't shoot

 

[RHB]

Personally i don't think we are improving, it's much of the same most weeks especially at home when we have lost so many recently, it hardly helps fans to enjoy the game. We try the same thing game after game with the ball mainly out to Bridge who still cannot cross a ball which i find ridiculous being a Pro footballer.

We are back to the very slow build up play allowing the opposition all the time in the world to get everybody back and pack their defence. Yesterday you knew we would struggle as soon as we took off a striker, IMO it would of been better to take off Bridge and allow Ralph to push up when needed. it was all about saving the game from that moment on not winning it and the fans new it.

We haven't a Cat in Hells chance of getting out of this league playing the way we do.

I certainly agree with you on the enjoyment front, there ain't too much at the moment, but the defence is nearly back to being difficult to score against, and with all our forwards now fit I'm expecting more up front on the goals front soon. Opinions are like arseholes, we all have one, so neither of us will truly know on the promotion question until the end of the season.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I haven't got time to read this all this morning, as it's my Sunday at work. Yeovil were a bunch of simulation experts who conned and played the ref at every opportunity. We've got to be nastier - if their defender is grappling with our forward, then jab a knuckle in his rib or something. He'll soon learn.

I thought defensively we were pretty solid throughout. Jeacock will rightly berate himself for what he did, he had no reason to be out there, but he's young and he will learn. All we needed to do after that was hold on, and then they go and get a fluke of a goal late on.

My MOTM Harry Taylor, with James Morton a close runner up. Miley to start next game in place of Husin, please.

Not our day, not our game.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

You suspect Bonne and Moncur would thrive in a team like Barnet. Kev just doesn't seem to get the best out of flair players.

 

[Dutch Branch]

After reviewing the evidence I will alter me statement to that we had one shot “Bim” and I’m going to give Colin the benefit of the doubt. Also listened to that dribble their manager came out with, what a drama queen

 

[seve le six]

Bridge is naturally right footed, why no play him on the right!

Agreed, either that or learn to cross the ball with his left more.

 

[barton west]

Very poor, even before going to 10! Not clinical enough, too many players with their backs to opposition goal, always laying it off with a backward pass!! I lost count on how many shots we had on target!!!

It’s a typical Maher team!!

Game wasn’t great but thought we shaded it even with 10.. thought they was really poor to be honest creating very little (same for us) and only scored with a miss hit cross.

From where I sat the red seemed harsh, and others have said the ref played advantage so seems odd to let them have and miss the shot then let them have the free kick and a red card?

Some saying the ref was no worse than others we’ve had since being NL, but I’d have to disagree, the standard of officiating today was the worst I’ve seen, might have got a bit more right if the ref ventured more than 3 paces out side of the centre circle. Was practically marking Morton 90% of the game!

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Maybe we need a bit of a reality check on here. We went down to 10 men following Zac's sending off and up until that point it was pretty much even stevens between the two teams. When you go down to 10 men it gets just gets quite a bit harder to play against 11 men (fact). We had to sacrifice a forward, and apart from the Yeovil goal, we defended pretty well. Did the ref affect the game? yes, but not because of her gender, more because she ref'd the game in such a way that the normal rough and tumble of the NL was not allowed, which in turn affected the game as a whole in terms of it flowing.

I just don't understand why the Maher out brigade jump on situations like yesterday to demand his removal, unless it's the only time they can find an opportunity to bitch. We are not the world beaters that everybody wants us to be, but we are improving, and it would not surprise me if we make the play-offs come the end of the season. On to Altrincham.

great fan of RHB but where are the signs that we are improving? That we’ve lost only five of the last six at home, rather than all six?

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Agree with a lot of the comments in this thread. Yes the game was ruined by the red card, but we were still quite poor, given how little Yeovil had of the play in our half.

We consistently struggle to create good chances or have shots on goal - but nothing ever seems to change. We play the same system with negative tactics, even when there’s a clear chance to get back in the game.

We wait until going 1-0 down before making a sub week in and week out, yet don’t learn from this. Watching the amateur management of the substitutions today when Bentley was trying to speak to Maher over the non-working walkie talkie msssively slowed down the much needed changes. Surely Bentley/Currie can make decisions like this when Maher’s been banished to the stands rather than flapping and delaying the subs, which is what happened today… just pretty poor all round. We need to make some changes both in personnel and tactics if we’re ever going to take a chance to get out of this league.

Interesting!
A walkie-talkie? What about a phone? Surely, the bill won't be that much? It does sound amateurish.

 

[Shrimper83]

I had good view of the goal from the Greens. It was not a fluke, he meant it. Gus and Olie gave him far to much space to take couple of touches, get in range and look up. If its one v one then a right back might be forgiven for not wanting to dive in but we had two players and neither closed him down. This has happened to our cost on several occasions this season. The first Charlton goal, same at Barnet. The winner for Fylde etc.

Equally for the goal we were way to deep. Almost on our 6yd line so Collin has to take the man on the front post into account with his positioning. Either way what a TV screen never shows is the real curve an dip on shots like that. It was well executed and Collin had no chance.

The big disappointment for me was our fear factor when down to ten and Kev in the stands. The worst bit was 10 mins before half time. Yeovil worked hard to still get 10 men behind the ball. We would commit no more than 4 or 5 on attacks that would alway fail with that ratio.

I was hoping we might step up and attack with some purpose and be more direct in the second half. At times we had our 3 CB's and just the Southend reject to mark. Not testing their keeper once in 90 mins is embarrassing. 10 men, snide grass of a 4th official and female refs are no excuse.

In an interview after the game the scorer even said he didn't mean it. It was a cross

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

At a risk of upsetting Cris Powells virtue signalling Mate.....The 4th official certainly didn't help the ref by acting like an overbearing dad calling his daughter over to tell her what decision to make. Looked like the 4th official also jumped up on the pedestal to make it all about him.

Are there differences in how a female and man would ref the same game.... I''l let you decide. Apparently Kev got sent off for something he said 5 years ago.

Had a feeling I would be hearing from you, and in a two-for-one @GBJ - not tub-thumping for female refs. Frankly, would just like competent refs: men, women even Martians will do!
Kirsty Dowle was lauded when here last season. Rebecca Welch was considered good enough to ref in the Prem; so the answer to the question has to be 'no' - if they're competent.
I understand it was deletions a-go-go for mods over the last few hours in an effort to eradicate the dinosaurs.

 

[Fairport]

The downside of our style of play making sure we keep possession is that it can be slow and let's the opposition re group. The style can be a winning one if you have midfielders that can make attacking runs and score goals, only Oli Coker seems to be able to do this. Lack of goals from re starts is also another worry. It's beginning to look as if we have signed too many of the wrong type of players, not an easy situation to put right.

 

[rigsby]

Had a feeling I would be hearing from you, and in a two-for-one @GBJ - not tub-thumping for female refs. Frankly, would just like competent refs: men, women even Martians will do!
Kirsty Dowle was lauded when here last season. Rebecca Welch was considered good enough to ref in the Prem; so the answer to the question has to be 'no' - if they're competent.
I understand it was deletions a-go-go for mods over the last few hours in an effort to eradicate the dinosaurs.

On the very first page and 3 posts into this thread you made a big point about the ref being female. You have then followed up with another dozen or so post letting us know how wonderful and woke you are.

The rest of us are happy to talk about the match. Its even in the title if the thread. Plenty of us on here have praised female refs in the past. Yesterday Abigail had a shocker.....Thats it.

Your answer too my question shows it went way over your head

 

[Shrimperborn1957]

Can anybody shed any light on why the south end of the west stand found a voice in the second half.

 

[fbm]

I don’t think that’s right. The advantage law/rule suggests that having played the advantage which they fluffed, it should then be a yellow for unsporting behaviour.

That's probably correct, but they didn't fluff it. It was cleared off the line and would have gone in.

If he'd have put it wide or over the bar, then he has fluffed it, the game continues and it's a yellow.

The ref was spot on with that decision.

 

[meerkat54]

Personally i don't think we are improving, it's much of the same most weeks especially at home when we have lost so many recently, it hardly helps fans to enjoy the game. We try the same thing game after game with the ball mainly out to Bridge who still cannot cross a ball which i find ridiculous being a Pro footballer.

We are back to the very slow build up play allowing the opposition all the time in the world to get everybody back and pack their defence. Yesterday you knew we would struggle as soon as we took off a striker, IMO it would of been better to take off Bridge and allow Ralph to push up when needed. it was all about saving the game from that moment on not winning it and the fans new it.

We haven't a Cat in Hells chance of getting out of this league playing the way we do.

I think Kev believes our style of play makes us the Man City of the national league, but in reality we are more of an Ipswich type level team.
Same set up every week makes us so predictable and beatable.
Will Kev change the team set up ?, I don’t think so, he’s just too blinkered.
I don’t think the consortium will support Kev indefinitely. They are business men and won’t accept failure. If thing’s don’t improve by the new year a change of management may be forced on them. Football is a results based sport and nobody is guaranteed to see out their contract.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

On the very first page and 3 posts into this thread you made a big point about the ref being female. You have then followed up with another dozen or so post letting us know how wonderful and woke you are.

The rest of us are happy to talk about the match. Its even in the title if the thread. Plenty of us on here have praised female refs in the past. Yesterday Abigail had a shocker.....Thats it.

Your answer too my question shows it went way over your head

I made the point early because we knew that for a few dinosaurs it would be too good an opportunity to miss.
I have to admit it's beyond me what's 'woke' in hoping the match was the focus and not the ref's gender.
But, you didn't read the thread that clearly as quite a lot of 'the rest of us', who is 'us', btw? were happy to castigate refs because they were female - not because they were useless.
BTW, I agree she had a bad game; hence the reason for the opener.
What was over my head? The question posed by you: '...are there differences in how a female and man would ref the same game?' Surely, it depends on the competence of the ref? I said that too.
I'm pleased a few Zoners agree: 24 on the opening post thus far.