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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United 0-1 Sittingbourne Town

I agree. I do think as a team we’re too ‘nice’, Ralph seems a great bloke, and is a consistent performer, but I’m still not convinced he’s really captain material. The fact his first thought was to console Bonne, rather than being ****ed off at his error, sums this up for me.

We needed someone yesterday to fire a rocket up certain players backsides for underperforming, if Goodliffe can do this, fantastic. Ralph certainly can’t. You don’t win football matches by being a team of ‘Mr nice guys’, unfortunately.
You need a motivator.

Bit late to 'put a rocket up there arse' in the 97th minute.

If Bonne had pointed the finger at someone else, or maybe looked like he didn't care, maybe I'd get it, but he clearly knew he'd ****ed up. I don't know what Goodliffe said, I doubt anyone on here does, but those weren't the actions of a leader. It's reported he was one of a few that went over to Bonne at the final whistle so maybe he's not a bad lad.

As I said you need a motivator - I agree that Ralph doesn't appear a great captain.
 
As said i do agree with a lot you say and couldn't agree more that things have not been good and the fans at home and those who travel relentlessly deserve so much better on and off the pitch but from the old skool of thought that never left a game before the full-time whistle no matter the score or boo ones team i just find some of the abuse hard to accept at times. 🤷‍♂️
That's me - after almost sixty years of watching.
 
You need a motivator.

Bit late to 'put a rocket up there arse' in the 97th minute.

If Bonne had pointed the finger at someone else, or maybe looked like he didn't care, maybe I'd get it, but he clearly knew he'd ****ed up. I don't know what Goodliffe said, I doubt anyone on here does, but those weren't the actions of a leader. It's reported he was one of a few that went over to Bonne at the final whistle so maybe he's not a bad lad.

As I said you need a motivator - I agree that Ralph doesn't appear a great captain.
Probably got caught up in the moment, (lots of us did) he is allowed a mistake too.
 
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You need a motivator.

Bit late to 'put a rocket up there arse' in the 97th minute.

If Bonne had pointed the finger at someone else, or maybe looked like he didn't care, maybe I'd get it, but he clearly knew he'd ****ed up. I don't know what Goodliffe said, I doubt anyone on here does, but those weren't the actions of a leader. It's reported he was one of a few that went over to Bonne at the final whistle so maybe he's not a bad lad.

As I said you need a motivator - I agree that Ralph doesn't appear a great captain.
Agreed on 97 minutes being too late, and also that we need a motivator on the pitch. Ralph doesn’t look like that man to me.

I was bemused yesterday that Goodliffe was being slagged off by a few on here for daring to have a pop at Bonne for making a bad error. This is exactly what’s wrong with our squad at the moment IMO, they’re too happy to accept failure and not call it out.

I’m not wanting to scapegoat Bonne by the way, these things do happen, but for some to expect everyone to just say ‘poor you’ and give him a hug…..
Others performed far worse yesterday, only Walker and maybe Goodliffe to an extent we’re 6 out of 10 performers yesterday, the rest need to take a long look at themselves. They’re capable of so much better and I hope some harsh truths are told. I’m worried that otherwise sub par performances become acceptable.
 
I was bemused yesterday that Goodliffe was being slagged off by a few on here for daring to have a pop at Bonne for making a bad error. This is exactly what’s wrong with our squad at the moment IMO, they’re too happy to accept failure and not call it out.

I’m not wanting to scapegoat Bonne by the way, these things do happen, but for some to expect everyone to just say ‘poor you’ and give him a hug…..

IMHO Calling someone out is only needed when that person is oblivious to what they have done/doing. That didn't look like the case with Bonne.

I haven't heard anyone say that the players should've gone up to Bonne and give him a hug. There doesn't have to be extremes.
 
I agree. I do think as a team we’re too ‘nice’, Ralph seems a great bloke, and is a consistent performer, but I’m still not convinced he’s really captain material. The fact his first thought was to console Bonne, rather than being ****ed off at his error, sums this up for me.

We needed someone yesterday to fire a rocket up certain players backsides for underperforming, if Goodliffe can do this, fantastic. Ralph certainly can’t. You don’t win football matches by being a team of ‘Mr nice guys’, unfortunately.
In National League, no one win a match for being too nice, we need at least 4/5 nasty players who would blast at our underperforming players to get them pushing their best on the pitch. We need players who know how to use dart art of football.
 
Cannot see us getting any more crowds above 7000 again this season now sadly

Yesterday result has hurt hard and will live long in our memories.

I am still going to the Aldershot home game this month only because Southend United is my club
 
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He is indeed - but some appear to be lauding his actions.
I guess you mean me! Lauding… not really, but it was an understandable reaction that was similar to mine in the stand and shows he actually cares. I was standing up for him against others giving him stick yesterday, and my personal opinion is that he doesn’t deserve criticism.
 
I guess you mean me! Lauding… not really, but it was an understandable reaction that was similar to mine in the stand and shows he actually cares. I was standing up for him against others giving him stick yesterday, and my personal opinion is that he doesn’t deserve criticism.
No one in particular - I think the lauding started first, but ultimately it doesn't matter.
 
A number of people seem to think the players aren't good enough .
The question really should be would a different manager be able to get more out of this squad by tactics and motivation.
Undoubtedly the answer is yes .
Look at Everton recently under Moyes. Scoring again after struggling all season to. Obviously more skilled professionals, but so is their opposition.
 
Best thing Bonne can do is bang a couple in next sat and put him back on track, a nutmeg through the keepers legs for the first would be nice.
Maher will probably drop him from the squad and revert back to 5-3-2, with Waldron and Kendall/Walker on the bench
 
Look at Everton recently under Moyes. Scoring again after struggling all season to. Obviously more skilled professionals, but so is their opposition.
I saw an article on Plymouth - gone backwards since Rooney left - according to the stats presented. You'll only ever know for certain with hindsight
 
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Tough to take - Southend United midfielder Keenan Appiah-Forson shows his pain (Image: Lucy Copsey)

By Chris Phillips. Chief sports reporter.

A SICKNESS bug led to Southend United making enforced changes for Saturday’s FA Trophy tie with Sittingbourne.

But come the final whistle everyone connected with the Shrimpers would have been left feeling rather unwell.

Put simply, the 1-0 defeat to the Isthmian League South East Division part-timers is one of the most embarrassing setbacks in the club’s entire history.

And, even though I have delayed putting this piece together, it is still incredibly difficult to stomach.

Following the fortunes of the Blues, regularly brings up a wide range of contrasting and conflicting emotions.

But, on the pitch at least, losing to a Step 4 side is as bad as it has been in recent memory.

Statistically speaking, it is indeed the worst home defeat the Shrimpers have ever experienced and the first time the club have lost to a team three leagues below them since 1979.

However, the immediate aftermath must now focus on how did it happen and where do Blues go from here?

Southend enjoyed long spells of possession in the fifth round tie but were punished for not being good enough in the final third.

The Shrimpers were often too slow and predictable when on the ball and found it tough to break down a defence brilliantly marshalled by Sittingbourne centre-back Jack Steventon.

Blues rarely got in behind their opponents and, in truth, visiting goalkeeper Roco Rees was not forced into anything spectacular between the sticks.

Of course, Sittingbourne deserve credit for their defensive display.

Ryan Maxwell’s side sat deep and made it as difficult as they could for a side 61 places above them in the football pyramid.

But the bottom line is the Shrimpers should have been able to break them down.

In contrast to Saturday’s showing however, Blues had triumphed in five of their last six games and had won their last two being front firmly on the front foot.

Those showings made the weekend’s woes even tougher to take and the Shrimpers should certainly have had enough about them to win, even without the players sidelined through illness.

The tie was ultimately decided in the dying seconds when Southend substitute Macauley Bonne inexplicably tried an intricate trick just outside his own six yard box before seeing his attempted clearance hit Anthony Church and rebound into the back of the net.

It was something of a fortuitous effort for Sittingbourne but you make your own luck in football and it was their reward for defending well and still being able to push forward late on.

For Blues and Bonne it was certainly unfortunate but the decision for someone of the striker’s experience to attempt such trickery so close to his own goal was simply mind-boggling.

The late strike saw the Shrimpers knocked out of the FA Trophy.

And, while some may scorn the importance of the competition, it represented a genuine chance of reaching Wembley and keeping the season alive.

As it is, Blues’ sole focus will now be on the league and that brings us onto what happens next.

The Shrimpers can either wilt and and let Saturday's woe kill the remainder of the campaign or they can dig deep and fight to restore some pride.

There is still plenty to play for and, before the weekend’s matches, Blues sat fourth in the National League form guide with only goal difference keeping them below the teams above them.

Kevin Maher’s side may have played more matches than some of the sides above them but they do remain just three points from the play-offs.

A top seven finish is still unlikely but it is within reach if enough consistency can be found.

The season so far seems to have constantly been a repeat of one step forward two steps back but there is still time to turn things around.

For that to happen, the Shrimpers simply have to be better at creating and converting chances, especially at home.

Blues have only the 16th best home record in the National League right now and improving that should also be a big target between now and the end of the season.

However, the targets right now should not be looking beyond Saturday’s trip to Maidenhead and ensuring the right kind of reaction.

Nothing can now be done about the outcome of the FA Trophy tie and the pain it has caused to the club’s long-suffering supporters.

But the road to redemption can still reach a pleasing final destination if the right lessons can be learned.
 

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