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Echo News Shrimpers boss Maher on Pepple's future with the club

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My initial first thought on signing Bim, was a bit of wonder, as his stats weren't great.

After seeing him play the first couple of times, I thought he showed great pace and strength, wasn't sure about finishing and needed to work a lot on his first touch as his second was often a tackle.

Now, games later into the season, he has undoubtedly been a success in his time here so far.

His goals return is above average, his pace and strength is an asset, but he still needs to work on his first touch.

Whether he stays or not for the rest of the season, as many have said already, is down to Luton.

Certainly the gap seems to be smaller between NL and L2, IF you have the right personnel. Could Bim cope in the league above probably, but he would need time to establish himself, as he did here. If he hasn't after 4/5 games would he keep a starting spot? If he didn't and spent time on the bench, then Luton's haste to find out could backfire on them. What would that scenario have on his confidence?

I have watched a significant amount of L1 games this season, varying teams and the one thing that strikes as a difference between NL, L2 and there is pace. I don't think Bim is ready for that level yet, let alone Championship, but he could be in time.

If I was scouting for Luton, and obviously I am not, my recommendation would be leave him here for the rest of the season. He is obviously benefitting from the coaching here, which hopefully they saw on Thursday. Let his confidence grow, then start him off in L2 next summer and make a decision if he has improved enough for L1 this time next year. I'd keep tabs on him though from our POV. As if he became available, whether we were at a level to interest Luton in another loan, or it was a permanent and there was a deal to be made, who knows.

What will be will be, but Bim, for me goes down as a great spot and successful piece of business from a club POV from my perspective great to see in a blue shirt for however long he stays with us.

I hope he stays, as I think him and Kendall could scare the life out of more than a few teams at this level.
 
WestyReturns said:
Of course it has. You think Luton won't even discuss things with him.
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Bim “I want to stay at Southend, I’m playing, scoring goals, and more importantly, I’m enjoying my football”

Luton “We want you in League Two/One, get used to it”

Bim “Okay, where am I going”.

That is basically how it will go. Luton have three options, as I’ve mentioned, and they will decide best thing for Luton Town. Same with us and Jack Wood, we will decide on the best course of action for us.

As I say, what the player wants will have zero impact on what happens. Okay, maybe slightly more than zero, but if Luton have decided to move him up the food chain, then that’s what Luton will do.
 
WestyReturns said:
Of course it has. You think Luton won't even discuss things with him.
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And what are the chances the result of that conversation would be Bim trying to convince Luton that he should be playing at a lower level?

He is currently on his 4th loan, and running out of time to convince Luton that he will ever be good enough for them. He probably needs to prove himself in L2 or L1 within the next year, so what sort of message would he be sending by trying to turn down that opportunity?

Ultimately, whilst I am sure he has enjoyed his time here, and would be happy to stay for the rest of the season if that’s what Luton want. He is a Luton player, and will do whatever is necessary to try and break into their squad.
 
Luton aren't short of dollar so I can't imagine anything we could put on the table financially would suit them. At best some money plus 50% sell on
 
gatecrasher said:
Luton aren't short of dollar so I can't imagine anything we could put on the table financially would suit them. At best some money plus 50% sell on
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The flip side of that is they have a player that they don't think will make the grade at championship/premier league level and have recieved 40-50 million in parachute money.

They are hardly likely to ask a million for a player they don't see as having a future with them and has only scored goals at national league level.

There are a lot of variables but one that I hope is a at least in play is that SUFC are talking to Bim and Luton about the possibility of a perm deal.

Whatever happens. Let's just enjoy watching him play until he either signs or leaves us.
 
rayleigh dan said:
Thank you! I’ve been getting fed up with the sarcastic responses from one or two ‘ITK’s’ recently, whenever anyone disagrees.

@BoyWonder2 takes issue with a poster saying we got lucky with Pepple and not crediting the coaches. This might be a fair point, but by the same logic are the coaches to blame for the failure of Waldron or Crowther for example? You can’t have it both ways surely?
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I know you asked BW - but I'd argue yes they get credit and blame - but additionally it would be unrealistic to get every signing spot on - some will work brilliant, most will be ok and some won't work. I think it was Stan that said a reasonable aim would be 8 out of 10 signings 'work' out ok or better.
 
Comedian/musician Jay Foreman had the foresight to write a song about our new favourite striker a few years ago:

 
Jack_23 said:
They can cancel his loan with us whether he likes it or not unfortunately
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Of course but you've entirely missed my point. You don't think they won't communicate with him and see how he feels about the current and future plans? They are humans not robots.
 
Danshrimper said:
And what are the chances the result of that conversation would be Bim trying to convince Luton that he should be playing at a lower level?

He is currently on his 4th loan, and running out of time to convince Luton that he will ever be good enough for them. He probably needs to prove himself in L2 or L1 within the next year, so what sort of message would he be sending by trying to turn down that opportunity?

Ultimately, whilst I am sure he has enjoyed his time here, and would be happy to stay for the rest of the season if that’s what Luton want. He is a Luton player, and will do whatever is necessary to try and break into their squad.
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That's my point. They will discuss his future. I didn't say whether it would be in our favour or not but Bim will have a big say in agreeing to what's the next steps. Much like Lopata when he was on loan. Players now have more say than ever.
 
Absolutely he will have a choice. It might not be stay here or not. But more likely we are going to recall you and send you out to a club at a higher level. These are the interested clubs, have you a preference between club a, b or c?

I am not saying he gets the club of his choice in that case either, if it's not right for the mother club, but players don't get told pack your bags you are off on loan to Stranraer tomorrow, with no discussion.
 
You obviously know everything about Southend united Boy Wonder, why should anyone question your superior knowledge.
Bim had a terrible record before he came here, that was backed up by an ex southend striker I know. We were lucky he started scoring when he came here.
 
Cricko said:
You have your views , others have theirs, nobody is denying you are well informed, it does not matter a **** to us whether you are right or wrong, but it does not help when you patronise others for having their own opinions, right or wrong, then dance on their grave.
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He should have his own forum, knows more than anyone on here....
 
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