You need a combination of both approaches. Miltancy on its own gets you nowhere.Not to mention the other side of things - the political lobbying from the Trust and others has been a massive part of unblocking this sale, if it happens.
The protests guys have been fantastic too. The two-pronged attack has worked briliantly, especially when the two factions have been working together over the past couple of months.
I think there are a lot of people deserve a massive amount of credit, and I include Chris in that cos his bosses have been clueless about our plight for years.
To be fair, Phillips is the Echo’s sports reporter. The kind of reporting that would be required to get to the bottom of the club’s affairs and the dubious nature of Martin’s control of it would be the responsibility of an investigations unit - if Phillips was spending hours a week (and it would require that) chasing a story that may eventually go nowhere, Newsquest would probably have something to say about it.He's not the type of character to go against the grain, unlike Howard southwood and Bernie Friend who both did a proper job of REPORTING on the likes of jobson and the .
Yes.Didn't Jobson actually ban the Echo Reporters from Roots Hall at one point?
Sure did. That all seems a storm in a teapot in comparison to nowDidn't Jobson actually ban the Echo Reporters from Roots Hall at one point?
By the sounds of previous posts, I think Chris's hands were tied given the relationship between Martin and upper management at the echo.To be fair, Phillips is the Echo’s sports reporter. The kind of reporting that would be required to get to the bottom of the club’s affairs and the dubious nature of Martin’s control of it would be the responsibility of an investigations unit - if Phillips was spending hours a week (and it would require that) chasing a story that may eventually go nowhere, Newsquest would probably have something to say about it.
That the Echo haven’t felt the need to conduct a proper investigation into the woeful mismanagement of a community asset - and let’s face it, this story has everything you’d want from a lengthy investigative piece - tells you far more about the current malaise facing local journalism than it does anyone at the paper’s journalistic credentials.
The story here, by Howard Southwood.Didn't Jobson actually ban the Echo Reporters from Roots Hall at one point?
Correct. Well and truly tied, with doubled up rope. A shame, as in the 70s and 80s the Echo would delve very deep and print everything, no matter who they upset. Now they seem to pick and choose. But we've now reached the stage where they have to untie Chris Phillips, and let him report it like it is.By the sounds of previous posts, I think Chris's hands were tied given the relationship between Martin and upper management at the echo.
He's a bit busy, how many sports reporters worked for the Echo when those guys were there? I bet it was more than 1.He's not the type of character to go against the grain, unlike Howard southwood and Bernie Friend who both did a proper job of REPORTING on the likes of jobson and the .
Rod Stewart Nigel Mansel the actor that plays Fred Elliott , Neville roache funnily enough and Jason readWho else is part of this consortium then?
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It’s an odd bunch not sure it’s common knowledge ? It might steal the thunder if they come out on here might be worth awaiting a day or so ( but only names I’ve been told might be bull****)Rod Stewart Nigel Mansel the actor that plays Fred Elliott , Neville roache funnily enough and Jason read
Not sure so much about Ron. Chris has been at the echo around about the same time as rat. He did have a go around about 2008, and if I remember was banned by Rat. Not going to be a great newspaper if he wrote the report based on listening to everything on the radio. Rat basically threatened him to silence.He's not the type of character to go against the grain, unlike Howard southwood and Bernie Friend who both did a proper job of REPORTING on the likes of jobson and the .
As I said, he's not the same as Bernie and or HS who wouldn't have let the get in the way of reporting his skullduggery ( he tried the same with Bernie and failed).Not sure so much about Ron. Chris has been at the echo around about the same time as rat. He did have a go around about 2008, and if I remember was banned by Rat. Not going to be a great newspaper if he wrote the report based on listening to everything on the radio. Rat basically threatened him to silence.
Yes. He banned Howard Southwood, who iirc ran an Echo story of a group of middle-aged Blues fans who wrote a fanzine critical of Jobson who he banned from RH under rules introduced by the govt to tackle hooliganism.Didn't Jobson actually ban the Echo Reporters from Roots Hall at one point?
Feels like we should crowdfund a SZ gift for CP if this all gets over the line. We’ve all had it bad but having to report on this ****show for years, travelling up and down the country, must have been exhausting to say the least.
It hasn’t at all, someone suggested a fund should be given to Chris and another suggested there are others more deserving … or is that not what a forum is for different opinions ? No Chris bashing at all just some rationalmods think this has gone bit off topic turned into a cp bashing unfair. Rather than on rees
You are right, but just like CP, we have no power in that newspaper. It seems like there's something going on there. Like a Mason thing or a get out of jail free card for donating to a certain cause they strongly support. In my own opinion. CP and other Echo reporters can only put a story out if the Editor or/and bosses give the go ahead. I bet if this were in another city, the local rag would be all over it, slamming the chairman, and doing a deep forensic investigation into his interwoven companies relating to SUFC, what club assets have been swallowed up, and try and work out what his end goal is. They would be the ones outside his house, but asking for a comment on this dodgy thing, or that. Instead they print his carefully worded statements. There are signs that the newspaper is finally pulling away from Martin. They must realise he's sunk too deep.As I said, he's not the same as Bernie and or HS who wouldn't have let the get in the way of reporting his skullduggery ( he tried the same with Bernie and failed).
I've got nothing against CP, he comes across as a good guy who's hearts clearly in the right place but let's all agree this can NEVER happen again at our club and if it does we need to echo and the like to be all over it.