Breaking News Ryan Hall - Jailed and then Bailed

[Beefy]

Seriously disappointed in the man. If it was one of my employess, I am afraid I would not want them working for my company ever again.

If it was your best employee, your other employees were there at the time and all swear blind that he was provoked, and you knew for a fact that he'd just go and join one of your competitors?

It seems like quite the stance.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

TBH if it was Louis Soares would we actually care that much? I doubt it.

Actually, why didn't we think of instigating something similar with Foran a few seasons back? Great way to finish a contract early :winking:

 

[Jai]

Playing devils advocate and using your previous analogy of replacing those involved with family members. If it was your son that had been sentenced for a provoked/retaliatory attack. Upon sentencing, would you distance yourself from him, and kick him out the family home to avoid any risk of being seen to condone his actions? Or would you let him know he still has a home to go to and support him following his release?

Also if it were Louie Soares he would have gone to kick the bloke in the head and missed.

 

[chapperzUK]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-12633736

Says that he also had "possession of an offensive weapon" ..... was it Mohsni?

 

[sky240286]

That was a shock :O Massive dent to our play-off hopes! Who will create the goals now?
Not so sure about kicking him out the club though, regardless of how important he is to us. Don't get me wrong, I'm very dissapointed in the boy, even knowing it was provoked. But he's a professional footballer with previous and should've known better!

 

[Angell Delight]

Bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks!! :'(

So now what do we do? I guess when Ferdinand is back (IF he comes back and doesn't jump ship!) we put him back into midfield and push Sawyer into Hall's free role?

 

[Gremlin]

To be fair to GBJ, he wasn't the only one. Post #26 on here, for example.

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/show...-being-sent-to-prison-affect-our-season/page2

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

Very bad news. Our most creative player and the main provider of goals, must delve into the loan market now. Without his pace we will be quite pedestrian.

 

[TravellingBlue]

Very bad news. Our most creative player and the main provider of goals, must delve into the loan market now. Without his pace we will be quite pedestrian.

Not going to happen unless the Sainsbury's money has turned up and everyone has been paid.

 

[Welly7]

Is it right that as a 'Community' club we should offer no chance of rehabilition? Isn't part of the work of clubs in the community schemes (including our own) to offer chances to kids who have had brushes with the law?

Just because other clubs have sacked players doesn't make it right, also I would imagine it should depend on the crime.

While it's true Hall has been one of our best players so we'll miss him alot. I would hope the my & the clubs support would remain the same if it was a 'lesser' player. If Hall were to repeat offend however my support would be far less.

I'm still of the opinion that Hall was representing the club and therefore I think there's every chance he'll get the sack. Just been on BBC site and it states the incident took place at club Christmas party, doesn't help the clubs profile and there's two ways to look at it. Morally he should be sacked, but from a football point of view, he's been great the last couple of months.
Whatever happens, if he stays and returns to club upon his release I'm guessing he'll get a reception like a favourite player returning from injury. That wouldn't sit right with me.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

depends on his previous which I think he might have. One thing you realise pretty quickly if your in and around courts is that sentencing is often arbitrary. I thought the fact that he had pleaded guilty and was racially abused would have been some mitigation. Still as we're trying to keep more people out of jail it seems a perfectly reasonable sentence. :stunned:

Blimey the amount of court cases I have sat through where scummy scroats who have committed offence after offence get off with a community punishment order... I don't condone what Ryan's done of course but it looks like he has been well and truly made an example of.

I must admit, this has shocked me. I never thought he'd get a custodial. Must definitly be a case of the judge making an example of him. I suppose it also depends on his previous. Can't believe he'd get a custodial for a first offense.

I heard at the weekend that he has previous for affray which, if true, would go some way to explaining it.

Are we sure this isn't a suspended sentence at all?

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Are we sure this isn't a suspended sentence at all?

I was thinking that...

 

[canveyshrimper]

I heard at the weekend that he has previous for affray which, if true, would go some way to explaining it.

Are we sure this isn't a suspended sentence at all?

No hanging was abolished in 1965.

 

[Angell Delight]

Would it not seem strange also that the club would appeal the decision immediately and then upon the appeal being rejected sack the player involved? That just doesn't make sense and if it's correct that we have appealed the decision I'd be staggered if when it is rejected Hall is sacked. Given the amount of support he has received from the rest of the squad - most of which were there at the time - I'd also suggest sacking Hall would be a tremendous way to wreck team spirit at the football club.

I'd be amazed if the club got rid of him, and all the sadder if they did cos he'll immediately be snapped up by someone else and would no doubt earn his new club a pretty penny in transfer fees in the near future.

 

[Floval Flyer]

i think if it's Sturrock's choice we'll keep him....,

i'd presume his wages would be suspended until he's out, but what shape will he be in and how long til he's match fit again?

How bad was his crime? Yeah he was allegedly provoked and racial abuse is not to be tollerated, but the use of the weapon was the decider in his sentencing...

Players have gotten off with far worse (John Terry, Lee Bowyer...), and players such as Lee Hughes and Marlon King, have been given a 2nd chance,....

I don't agree with the likes of Hughes and King earning 000's playing again, they don't deserve 2nd chances IMHO, but if this sets a presidence the I'd keep Ryan Hall on our books, providing he can prove it's behind him...

 

[Smiffy]

Would it not seem strange also that the club would appeal the decision immediately and then upon the appeal being rejected sack the player involved? That just doesn't make sense and if it's correct that we have appealed the decision I'd be staggered if when it is rejected Hall is sacked. Given the amount of support he has received from the rest of the squad - most of which were there at the time - I'd also suggest sacking Hall would be a tremendous way to wreck team spirit at the football club.

I'd be amazed if the club got rid of him, and all the sadder if they did cos he'll immediately be snapped up by someone else and would no doubt earn his new club a pretty penny in transfer fees in the near future.

There is no way in a month of Sunday's Ryan will be "relieved of his duties" by the club.

I am sure they will all stand by him and do all they can to either reduce his sentence or get it thrown out.

With any luck, he'll be granted bail by the Crown Court which will allow him to play a few games until the re-trial.

 

[londonblue]

Would it not seem strange also that the club would appeal the decision immediately and then upon the appeal being rejected sack the player involved? That just doesn't make sense and if it's correct that we have appealed the decision I'd be staggered if when it is rejected Hall is sacked. Given the amount of support he has received from the rest of the squad - most of which were there at the time - I'd also suggest sacking Hall would be a tremendous way to wreck team spirit at the football club.

I'd be amazed if the club got rid of him, and all the sadder if they did cos he'll immediately be snapped up by someone else and would no doubt earn his new club a pretty penny in transfer fees in the near future.

The club aren't appealing the decision. Hall and his lawyers are. It's nothing to do with the club.

 

[Pak Power]

My last point on whether to sack him or not is I'm pretty sure these things would be standard in a contract? into disreputeThat bringing the club name or any serious breach of the law could be met with instant termination?...

Anyways, thats me over and out - nobody agrees with me so no point carrying on. The whole episode says a lot about society today IMO.

Whatever Ryan Hall has done, it didn't need him to do that, we have a chairman that does it for us on a regular basis(-allegedly)

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

There is no way in a month of Sunday's Ryan will be "relieved of his duties" by the club.

I am sure they will all stand by him and do all they can to either reduce his sentence or get it thrown out.

With any luck, he'll be granted bail by the Crown Court which will allow him to play a few games until the re-trial.

Can't see there being a re-trial when he pleaded guilty!

Has he appealed the sentence, or is that speculation on your part?

 

[tommy tucker]

Either way the bloke who abused him must be feeling pretty dam smug now . I heard the club was appeling against his sentence We all know what the deaded drink can do at a office christmas party . What he did was wrong but no many folk turn the other cheek if a person is hurling abuse at you .I hope the club sticks by him and he gets though his time in prison and he returns to play for the club .