Breaking News Ryan Hall - Jailed and then Bailed

[Wise Head]

It would be better if his sentence could be defered until the end of the season so it would allow him to continue his work - however I don't think the judge has this option.

 

[Beefy]

Didn't somethnig similar happen with Kiefer Sutherland whereby the Courts scheduled his prison time around his 24 filming schedule?

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

"Mr Martin subsequently travelled to Chelmsford Prison to greet Ryan on his release, with arrangements made to transport Hall to the teams hotel in Morecambe ahead of Saturday's npower League Two match and meet up with his Southend United team-mates."

Sounds like Ryan will be getting a ride up to Morecambe with Ron.:scared:
Good news, lets hope he can play some part tomorrow.

Hopefully he'll be having a chat with him over a new contract on the long journey.

 

[Cricko]

Hopefully he'll be having a chat with him over a new contract on the long journey.

Hardly be any point as TB runs the football side of things.

 

[McNasty]

Hopefully he'll be having a chat with him over a new contract on the long journey.

minus his taxi fare, I would wager.

 

[blake]

Can't see any mention of the fact that the Court could, if it wanted, increase the sentence on Thursday.

 

[ultra man]

No they couldnt because the judge would then be sentancing outside the guidlines for the offence , basically he was already given the max possible sentance.
The main crux of the matter is " lets hope he gets the same judge that granted him bail today" , as he felt the sentance was far to harsh !

 

[blake]

No they couldnt because the judge would then be sentancing outside the guidlines for the offence , basically he was already given the max possible sentance.
The main crux of the matter is " lets hope he gets the same judge that granted him bail today" , as he felt the sentance was far to harsh !

Sorry but before I posted I checked the Guidelines in the Sentencing Manual. The maximum sentence for affray is 3 years.

 

[Rootshalle]

Can't see any mention of the fact that the Court could, if it wanted, increase the sentence on Thursday.

Not another frivolous appeal...

 

[ms brush]

Scary stuff... Probably a bit close to home for Ron; bearing in mind his dodgy persona and last years allegations... could have been him staying at HMP in Chelmsford!

Not casting any judgements anywhere on this one - dont know the facts. Bottom line is, if Ryan's appeal allows his sentence to be reduced, will be immensely pleased, and if it isnt then we are no worse off. At least he was honest enough to plead guilty - he knew and admitted his mistake, rather than lie and try to cover it up. Despite any rights and wrongs (as I dont know facts) the honesty to admit wrongdoing says to me that he deserves an opportunity to put things right and make amends to his employers rather than also be castigated further by getting the sack. He is young, hopefully the experience has scared him enough to make sure he doesnt get in trouble again.

 

[* ORM *]

Why do people keep comparing this with what would happen to them? Football isn't a normal job. I doubt anyone here is of much tangible value to their employer. You can't be sold, you don't have transfer windows in which you can only be replaced permenantly.

Once Hall has done his time he should be entitled to get on with his life like anyone else would.

Bullhang. It's that kind of attitude that allows Rooney to escape punishment. Screw FA, UEFA or FIFA rules that's assault in my book and I've not seen a law that says a football field is a place immune from prosecution. It is also the kind of attitude that allows a drugs CHEAT like Ferdinand to Captain England and a thoroughly unpleasant character like Terry to Captain England. It's also the kind of attitude that means Ashley Cole will get off scott free for 'frolics'.

Footballers should be immune from NOTHING whatsoever. If anything their over-inflated wages and media limelight gives them (in my eyes) a role model responsibility. Watch 8 and 9 year old kids playing a game of football and you'll see exactly what I mean.

I also blame the paying public. Fuelling SKY to feed ever more ridiculous amounts to the top of the football tree while clubs like ours and plenty of others struggle when 10% of premiership money would keep us all afloat. I also blame the paying public for paying ridiculous amounts of money to go to watch the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and others, not to mention cup-finals both domestic and European. Football will fall from a heavy height when this money dries up and dry up it will once the financial measures imposed on us humble public really start to kick in. When it does I will have little sympathy.

Back to the main topic. I'm all for people paying time for the crime. Clearly the club are standing by him. In keeping with the community feel of the club what is Hall going to be doing as part of his reparations, apart from jumping ship at the earliest opportunity. I hope I'm proved wrong here but the sceptic in me says otherwise. By some accounts Hall is far from angelic even without this matter.

 

[ultra man]

Sorry but before I posted I checked the Guidelines in the Sentencing Manual. The maximum sentence for affray is 3 years.

Your correct blake you would have read that in the guidelines but you have to take into account other factors eg. previous convictions etc .

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Why do people keep comparing this with what would happen to them? Football isn't a normal job. I doubt anyone here is of much tangible value to their employer. You can't be sold, you don't have transfer windows in which you can only be replaced permenantly.

Once Hall has done his time he should be entitled to get on with his life like anyone else would.

'Get on with his life...' yes, but walk back into his previous job? How in truth is he fulfilling his side of the contract when he's in pokey? This 'provoked' biz doesn't sit well with me either.
If someone insults you, as assumed was done to Hall, there are a number of options available. Taking the one that sees you go to jail is hardly the smart choice.
Does he like so many other footballers assume he's invisible when he's out on the town? Sure, he might be a target for some low life - but that's the price of fame. If you don't like the heat, or provocation or insults or whatever, and you don't have the temperament to deal with it - get out of the kitchen/night club.

 

[CAPTAIN BIRDSEYE]

I am with chris powells mate on this one, plus i find martins actions curious to say the least. Considering that he is not paying the players, and yet he is happy to pull all the stops out for a player that when hopefully finishes his sentence the season could be over, and on a free transfer . so i dont get it?? is it to try and reverse his negative pr?? the assault on him is described on bbc essex "as an alledged racist attack". the only people who know if it was or not, are hall, and his chums who went steaming in to the guy, also from southend utd. he should due the time and be sacked. my job like all of yours would not even entertain me returning to work.

lets say i did martin over in a car park and was caught on video?? would there be the sympathy expressed for me like has been for hall, !!!!

 

[Tommy2holes]

I am with chris powells mate on this one, plus i find martins actions curious to say the least. Considering that he is not paying the players, and yet he is happy to pull all the stops out for a player that when hopefully finishes his sentence the season could be over, and on a free transfer . so i dont get it?? is it to try and reverse his negative pr?? the assault on him is described on bbc essex "as an alledged racist attack". the only people who know if it was or not, are hall, and his chums who went steaming in to the guy, also from southend utd. he should due the time and be sacked. my job like all of yours would not even entertain me returning to work.

lets say i did martin over in a car park and was caught on video?? would there be the sympathy expressed for me like has been for hall, !!!!

Erm no . That would be completely premeditated.

Ryan hall went out for a boozy night out and was racially abused and had his own jaw broke. The bloke he assualted was hardly an innocent bystander.

The only thing Hall is guilty of is going over the top and retaliating. He should have just have walked away.

All this talk of sacking him is rediculous and im glad the club think so too

 

[TrueBlue]

Bet everybody would have a different tune if it was Tilson who had done it!!!

 

[Swiss Tony]

Bet everybody would have a different tune if it was Tilson who had done it!!!

Or indeed Adolf Hitler.UTB

 

[Beefy]

Bullhang. It's that kind of attitude that allows Rooney to escape punishment. Screw FA, UEFA or FIFA rules that's assault in my book and I've not seen a law that says a football field is a place immune from prosecution. It is also the kind of attitude that allows a drugs CHEAT like Ferdinand to Captain England and a thoroughly unpleasant character like Terry to Captain England. It's also the kind of attitude that means Ashley Cole will get off scott free for 'frolics'.

Footballers should be immune from NOTHING whatsoever. If anything their over-inflated wages and media limelight gives them (in my eyes) a role model responsibility. Watch 8 and 9 year old kids playing a game of football and you'll see exactly what I mean.

I also blame the paying public. Fuelling SKY to feed ever more ridiculous amounts to the top of the football tree while clubs like ours and plenty of others struggle when 10% of premiership money would keep us all afloat. I also blame the paying public for paying ridiculous amounts of money to go to watch the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and others, not to mention cup-finals both domestic and European. Football will fall from a heavy height when this money dries up and dry up it will once the financial measures imposed on us humble public really start to kick in. When it does I will have little sympathy.

Back to the main topic. I'm all for people paying time for the crime. Clearly the club are standing by him. In keeping with the community feel of the club what is Hall going to be doing as part of his reparations, apart from jumping ship at the earliest opportunity. I hope I'm proved wrong here but the sceptic in me says otherwise. By some accounts Hall is far from angelic even without this matter.

Who said footballers should be immune from anything? I certainly didn't so I don't know why you then went on a four paragraph rant contesting a point which no one has made.

 

[Beefy]

'Get on with his life...' yes, but walk back into his previous job? How in truth is he fulfilling his side of the contract when he's in pokey? This 'provoked' biz doesn't sit well with me either..

I doubt that he'll be earning any money from us for any time served. He'll likely be on the equivalent of unpaid leave (cue joke about unpaid wages).

Why does it matter to you if he walks back into his old job or he gets a new one? It isn't the Club's job to punish him. It's the Court's job.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

I can say my piece, I am standing by Hall, as I thought the sentence was harsh and there are people who did worst thing and get away with it - I am glad Ron Martin did the effort with Hall Solicitor and get him out of prison on bails - If Ron Martin didn't care for the club, he would let Hall rot in prison.

Here to a good display at Morecambe and hopefully a revenge win (draw wouldn't be bad!) - I hope Hall will have game of his life after 3pm and again Vs Gillingham on Tuesday night!!