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Erm no . That would be completely premeditated.

Ryan hall went out for a boozy night out and was racially abused and had his own jaw broke. The bloke he assualted was hardly an innocent bystander.

The only thing Hall is guilty of is going over the top and retaliating. He should have just have walked away.

All this talk of sacking him is rediculous and im glad the club think so too

Apparently, he hadn't even been drinking. I am pleased he is out, I wonder for how many years he has been racially abused and has just had to accept it? There is no need for it, and I can't see why the guy he kicked hasn't been taken to court for racial abuse and ABH for breaking Hall's jaw.
 
Apparently, he hadn't even been drinking. I am pleased he is out, I wonder for how many years he has been racially abused and has just had to accept it? There is no need for it, and I can't see why the guy he kicked hasn't been taken to court for racial abuse and ABH for breaking Hall's jaw.

Maybe Hall didn't press charges?
 
perhaps Ron is getting Mr Hall to sign a 3 year contract for bailing him out with Grants wages :winking:
 
dwb you speak some nonsense how do you know that he has been racially abused for years!!!! how do we not know when at palace he was a right **** and got in lots of problems locally how do we not know he was billy big bollocks, when he thought he had made it as a professional player, ask any palace fans what they thought of him I amn suprised its taken this long for him to put away. martin you have shamed yourself once again standing by him
 
We're losing sight of the issue here. He's kicked a bloke in the head and needs corrective punishment. Sack him.
Why the hell Martin is getting involved, other than to curry favour with the fans, is beyond me. Isn't there something he can get banged up for too? That hair for example.
 
We're losing sight of the issue here. He's kicked a bloke in the head and needs corrective punishment. Sack him.
Why the hell Martin is getting involved, other than to curry favour with the fans, is beyond me. Isn't there something he can get banged up for too? That hair for example.

What are you advocating here? I'm not condoning his behaviour BUT apparentlythere was provocation and it was racially motivated. Was Hall suppposed to put up with this boor's abusive behaviour all evening? I shouldn't think for one moment it was premeditated that he would kick him, just a result of how the scuffle went, and the lad is paying the price...a night in Chelmsford nick won't have been the most pleasant he's ever had, and he still has the prospect of his sentence being enforced or potentially even made longer. Ron Martin has every right to be involved as his employer, and he's gone up in my estimation for doing so.
 
dwb you speak some nonsense how do you know that he has been racially abused for years!!!! how do we not know when at palace he was a right **** and got in lots of problems locally how do we not know he was billy big bollocks, when he thought he had made it as a professional player, ask any palace fans what they thought of him I amn suprised its taken this long for him to put away. martin you have shamed yourself once again standing by
him

What a dreadful statement Ryan Hall has no previous convictions and had never been in trouble with the police before. You really hate Ron Martin that much that you would try to get a young mans career ruined.
 
I thought the other guy didn't press charges either, I'm probably wrong and I'm too lazy to go through 17 pages but I think someone said as affray is a public issue Hall could be charged without the other guy pressing charges

neither parties pressed charges its has all come to court via the police based on CCTV footage at the time of the incident
 
We're losing sight of the issue here. He's kicked a bloke in the head and needs corrective punishment. Sack him.
Why the hell Martin is getting involved, other than to curry favour with the fans, is beyond me. Isn't there something he can get banged up for too? That hair for example.

get your facts right before go to print the guy got kicked in the chest not the head
 
Apparently, he hadn't even been drinking. I am pleased he is out, I wonder for how many years he has been racially abused and has just had to accept it? There is no need for it, and I can't see why the guy he kicked hasn't been taken to court for racial abuse and ABH for breaking Hall's jaw.

dwb you speak some nonsense how do you know that he has been racially abused for years!!!! how do we not know when at palace he was a right **** and got in lots of problems locally how do we not know he was billy big bollocks, when he thought he had made it as a professional player, ask any palace fans what they thought of him I amn suprised its taken this long for him to put away. martin you have shamed yourself once again standing by him

I only said I wondered for how many years....I didn't say he had been abused for years.
 
you are dwb a fool, and without any sense of a moral compass, my hatred of martin, has nothing to do with this business of hall, he is now a convicted criminal and as such should have been sacked, i reiterate i find martins behaviour creepy and very odd to say the least. and you should take that picture of martin down from your bedside table and wake up to see how he is killing your club
 
Ron Martin has every right to be involved as his employer, and he's gone up in my estimation for doing so.

Which only enforces the point I was making! And also Hall may have been getting some verbal, which isn't on, but you still don't go committing affray.
 
We're losing sight of the issue here. He's kicked a bloke in the head and needs corrective punishment. Sack him.
Why the hell Martin is getting involved, other than to curry favour with the fans, is beyond me. Isn't there something he can get banged up for too? That hair for example.
I think Martin realises that Hall if under a contract is a very saleable asset and being a buisnessman is thinking of future profit and Hall also is a key player in us making playoffs.
 
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hmmmm - it seems they are right, all computer games cause violence... even Champ!
 
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What a dreadful statement Ryan Hall has no previous convictions and had never been in trouble with the police before. You really hate Ron Martin that much that you would try to get a young mans career ruined.

you are dwb a fool, and without any sense of a moral compass, my hatred of martin, has nothing to do with this business of hall, he is now a convicted criminal and as such should have been sacked, i reiterate i find martins behaviour creepy and very odd to say the least. and you should take that picture of martin down from your bedside table and wake up to see how he is killing your club

You are so full of anger that you aren't even reading posts properly. It was Beardoblue that made the point about you hating Ron Martin so much, not me, see above....

Apology accepted.
 

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