Promotion and relegation 2019/20 season

[kentblues]

I think its more about spending wisely. In terms of spending per se I think probably if anything he has done too much not too little. There has been a tendency under the last three managers to want to bring in players who had played at a higher level- almost a quick fix/a search for instant improvement.

I am hoping under Sol he will focus on younger L1/L2 players with the right attitude, athlete ability and commitment, and the potential/ability to step up. The results may take longer but will be sustainable. (Actually the results actually can't take longer given the former didn't work anyway)

 

[Mad Cyril]

PSG officially awarded Ligue 1 title, apparently. Can see the same being done here with Liverpool and it’s looking more and more unlikely this season will resume. Scrap it, everyone knows where they stand, look at next season however that might be able to kick off.

In my opinion voiding the season should mean just that. No champions, no relegation.

 

[southendkid]

He didn't spend in January because he felt we were already down and it'd be wiser spent in the summer rebuild. Many disagreed at the time but RM has got lucky with that call.

I thought we didn't sign anyone because we were under a transfer embargo?

 

[tallboyblue]

We are due a little bit of luck.If this works in our favour and we stay up I think Ron will do his best to make sure we don’t have another season like the last one. He really can’t afford relegation so fingers crossed.

 

[BriggBlue]

IF we stay up this season and next season we actually have decent chance of being a L1 side with a brand new stadium that can have a crack at going up to the championship with a team containing a lot of academy graduates.

Bloody hell Ron, by jove you might have delivered after all.

 

[kentblues]

As much as dither and delay is a byword for the EFL, given the huge coverage being given to that leaked call, a the number of people taking it almost as a decision made, the EFL will be forced to make a clearer statement today than their comfort zone would normally allow?

They can't come out and say no decisions made, still looking to complete the season, "nothing has changed".....or can they?

 

[Zeuss]

If the prem goes up to 23 teams as is now being rumoured, that's a lot more games, I wonder if that placates the TV people as they effectively would get more next season.
Re us and Bolton staying up, even the sun shines on the dogs back somedays.

I think this “rumour” stems from a statement by Rodman,of Bristol Rovers,speaking for the PFA,but it seems he can’t count.Or where would his 23rd team come from?There would have been 10 Championship clubs entertaining hopes of catching the 4 who were better placed to enter the lottery of the play-offs.
A Premiership of 22 teams for one season does ,however,make complete sense.

 

[MilkeySUFC]

Certainly the U23's put in some great performances under Sol.Results however didn't really improve under his management.

I fear for our future if its in L1 next season, unless the Chairman's chequebook comes out in the summer and Sol gets at least one window to bring in the players he wants.That's s assuming that he doesn't walk anyway,of course.

Stats seem to say they did:

 

[Shrimpergonzo]

A Premiership of 22 teams for one season does ,however,make complete sense.

I agree - not least because an odd number of teams means everyone takes it in turns to have a blank weekend - as we've had in League One this season since Bury's demise.

Been thinking about this:

If 2 go up from Champ to Prem and no relegation, that leaves 22 in the Prem

If the top 2 go up from L1 to Champ, then they will have the same size league next season

If the 3 Autos come up from L2 to L1 - that's where the imbalance occurs, we'll have 25 in League 1, but League 2 will only have 22 (assuming the top of the National League comes up and there's no relegation.

The solution would, I guess, say the top 2 in each division from Champ down to National League get promoted this season with no relegation.

Which would leave us with 22, 24, 24, 24.

The following season, each division would have to relegate 2 more than are due to come up to it.

I think that's how it works - ie. 5 down from Prem, 5 down from Champ, 6 down from League 1, 4 down from League 2.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I thought we didn't sign anyone because we were under a transfer embargo?

I thought we had signed the 2 Macc lads but couldn't register them? .
It may be terminology however it does indicate some future rebuilding.

 

[Mick]

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The solution would, I guess, say the top 2 in each division from Champ down to National League get promoted this season with no relegation.

Which would leave us with 22, 24, 24, 24.

If you could get to those numbers (I'm not sure you've replaced Bury in that scenario), this would be reasonably tidy as the question of points per game or final position becomes irrelevant at that level.

Also it would leave the three National League Divisions with 22 in each - unless they choose to replace the two National League promotees with the winners of North and South - in which case they have a decision to make - York on position or Kings Lynn on points per game. Also it leaves the two regional divisions with 23, the levels below having voided.

 

[MK Shrimper]

In France, Ameins are threatening to sue as they've been relegated.

Amiens and Lyon threaten further action after Ligue 1 issues final table

Relegated Amiens and Lyon, who missed out on Europe, are considering legal action in response to Ligue 1’s decision to cancel the season

www.theguardian.com

Would this happen here?

 

[Westcliff DGS]

In France, Ameins are threatening to sue as they've been relegated.

Amiens and Lyon threaten further action after Ligue 1 issues final table

Relegated Amiens and Lyon, who missed out on Europe, are considering legal action in response to Ligue 1’s decision to cancel the season

www.theguardian.com

Would this happen here?

I would guess teams would look at it, but seems we are thinking of promotion and no relegation. I would also be surprised if some teams in and around the playoff places dont look to see what there case is if they dont finish the season and they promote teams.

It is all guesswork on results and how they would go so who knows what the grounds are for that or not, no one can say they would have won any game or lost any game

 

[Angell Delight]

It seems to me you're ignoring our Chairman's legendary reluctance to spend money at the appropriate time.His well documented refusual to spend the fundshe''d previously promised in the January window (combined with our results in December/January against the teams around us in the table) cost us any realistic chance we had of avoiding the drop by our own efforts.

If the season ends with no relegation then thank God Ron took that choice, it might just give us enough scope in the playing budget to make a few good signings this summer. That's much more preferable than if we'd panic bought in January when we were already as good as down.

 

[Angell Delight]

I would guess teams would look at it, but seems we are thinking of promotion and no relegation. I would also be surprised if some teams in and around the playoff places dont look to see what there case is if they dont finish the season and they promote teams.

It is all guesswork on results and how they would go so who knows what the grounds are for that or not, no one can say they would have won any game or lost any game

Agree with this, it's a mess. There is no possible solution that would suit everybody though and it'll be interesting to see what happens now. For me I believe the season should be voided right across the board, these are unprecedented times when football unfortunately isn't particularly important. I can however see why some will disagree with that opinion though.

 

[Thundersley Blue]

I don't like to pour cold water on this speculation about Ron getting his cheque book out to rebuild. We are still under a transfer embargo, we still owe HMRC, we still owe the PFA and we have furloughed staff. May well be a long time before we are allowed to sign anyone.

Could well be a blessing that so many of our youngsters gained experience in the second half of the season.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Even if we do play again at some point, no fans are likely to be able to attend until January 2021. How we and other small clubs are going to survive this is beyond me.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Agree with this, it's a mess. There is no possible solution that would suit everybody though and it'll be interesting to see what happens now. For me I believe the season should be voided right across the board, these are unprecedented times when football unfortunately isn't particularly important. I can however see why some will disagree with that opinion though.

That is the option that would cause most issues for the FA/EPL/EFL.

 

[Jay_SUFC]

Even if we do play again at some point, no fans are likely to be able to attend until January 2021. How we and other small clubs are going to survive this is beyond me.

They would survive if the FA and Premiership actually started giving out some of the money they are hording!!

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Stats seem to say they did:
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Fair enough.Still less than a point a game.That's relegation form.Our position in L1 certainly didn't improve though.Did it Milkey?