Promotion and relegation 2019/20 season

[jim]

If they do scrap relegation Boltons 12 point penalty would have been a waste of time.

 

[Chrisb]

Sorry for the positive thought ( and I know it’s strictly verboten) but having seen the way we have galvanised the u23 to compete at L1 level with some shrewd signings I think we could surprise.

Yes, the youngsters were just getting things together, just not sure that the momentum will continue after the enforced break sadly.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

I really don't want to build my hopes up too much but I'd love to savour the sensation of being relegated and promoted in the same season. That would surely merit opening a bottle of champagne!?

 

[Ramsdenblue]

Yes but it does raise the question as to how the hell we're going to survive in L1 again next season?

I think that we will do a lot better if we was to stay in league 1 next season if we start of with the players that we finished with.
We may not be chasing promotion, but equally will not be facing relegation.
Those u 23,s showed a lot of heart and wanted to play well for the club, they had the opportunity to play in a league that they would not normally have played in as yet, and they all took the bull by the horns and ran with it.

I was very impressed by the make shift team that we assembled at the end of the season, compared to the team we had in the first part of the season.

 

[Austin the Shrimper]

I can’t see this season coming back now. Pretty much every league is being scrapped and teams awarded championships on Merit, like in Ligue 1.
I think we are staying up and are gonna be in a big old league whenever next season is. If the leaks are true I guess they should announce it pretty soon

 

[Jay_SUFC]

SOUTHEND United could be given a League One lifeline after it was revealed the EFL is considering scrapping relegation this season.

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Ron did say we wouldn't get relegated!!!

 

[camden shrimper]

If the prem goes up to 23 teams as is now being rumoured, that's a lot more games, I wonder if that placates the TV people as they effectively would get more next season.
Re us and Bolton staying up, even the sun shines on the dogs back somedays.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

It’s be fantastic if we stay up, I don’t think we will be in same position next season & Sol Campbell have an good eyes for transfers. If he get the right players in, mixed with our kids, we might do much better.

 

[Angell Delight]

If they do scrap relegation Boltons 12 point penalty would have been a waste of time.

I would imagine Bolton would have to start on -12pts again next season if and when this one is scrapped. Still they'd be in a better place to survive now if that is indeed the case....

 

[Westcliff DGS]

I would imagine Bolton would have to start on -12pts again next season if and when this one is scrapped. Still they'd be in a better place to survive now if that is indeed the case....

Not so sure about that. If they are awarding promotion then the season has been played and thus the penalty would have been served. If they void the season then quite possibly that would have happened.

The FA/EFL had a lot of things to consider and still do, but penalties applied, or that need applying along with FFP were things that have and still are taking a lot of time to discuss in relation to the season ending. If they void the season then those things cause issues, if they don't then the can still apply the rules.

 

[BriggBlue]

for those worried that we'd just go down next season we also need to bear in mind that the other clubs in the division will need to do a similar sort of mass clearout as we did in January to keep their heads above water, there will be some big clubs that are going to struggle with no income for several months, suddenly Will Grigg on 15K a week seems a bit of a bad idea.

the next transfer window will shift the power to the clubs with players becoming increasingly desperate to remain as professional footballers

 

[Westcliff DGS]

for those worried that we'd just go down next season we also need to bear in mind that the other clubs in the division will need to do a similar sort of mass clearout as we did in January to keep their heads above water, there will be some big clubs that are going to struggle with no income for several months, suddenly Will Grigg on 15K a week seems a bit of a bad idea.

the next transfer window will shift the power to the clubs with players becoming increasingly desperate to remain as professional footballers

Sunderland have to be in with a chance of failing FFP

 

[Ricey]

for those worried that we'd just go down next season we also need to bear in mind that the other clubs in the division will need to do a similar sort of mass clearout as we did in January to keep their heads above water, there will be some big clubs that are going to struggle with no income for several months, suddenly Will Grigg on 15K a week seems a bit of a bad idea.

the next transfer window will shift the power to the clubs with players becoming increasingly desperate to remain as professional footballers

£3m for him was just ludicrous in the first place!

 

[Westcliff DGS]

£3m for him was just ludicrous in the first place!

Yep

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I think that we will do a lot better if we was to stay in league 1 next season if we start of with the players that we finished with.
We may not be chasing promotion, but equally will not be facing relegation.
Those u 23,s showed a lot of heart and wanted to play well for the club, they had the opportunity to play in a league that they would not normally have played in as yet, and they all took the bull by the horns and ran with it.

I was very impressed by the make shift team that we assembled at the end of the season, compared to the team we had in the first part of the season.

Certainly the U23's put in some great performances under Sol.Results however didn't really improve under his management.

I fear for our future if its in L1 next season, unless the Chairman's chequebook comes out in the summer and Sol gets at least one window to bring in the players he wants.That's s assuming that he doesn't walk anyway,of course.

 

[Medway Blue]

Certainly the U23's put in some great performances under Sol.Results however didn't really improve under his management.

I fear for our future if its in L1 next season, unless the Chairman's chequebook comes out in the summer and Sol gets at least one window to bring in the players he wants.That's s assuming that he doesn't walk anyway,of course.

It will give us a better chance of holding onto Elvis Bwomono and Charlie Kelman.

 

[Grayson]

There are two fundamental differences between our ability to make changes for next season versus last summer.

Firstly, many of our high earners in contract last summer are no longer in contract having been moved on in January. A few more will be gone in June. That gives us significantly more scope to build a much better balanced squad.

Secondly, as alluded to on this thread, other clubs will have many more challenges than before. Some will have lots of their squad in contract still and may have very little room to manoeuvre. Our clearout in January may well position us better than half of the teams in this division going into whenever we restart again.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

There are two fundamental differences between our ability to make changes for next season versus last summer.

Firstly, many of our high earners in contract last summer are no longer in contract having been moved on in January. A few more will be gone in June. That gives us significantly more scope to build a much better balanced squad.

Secondly, as alluded to on this thread, other clubs will have many more challenges than before. Some will have lots of their squad in contract still and may have very little room to manoeuvre. Our clearout in January may well position us better than half of the teams in this division going into whenever we restart again.

It seems to me you're ignoring our Chairman's legendary reluctance to spend money at the appropriate time.His well documented refusual to spend the fundshe''d previously promised in the January window (combined with our results in December/January against the teams around us in the table) cost us any realistic chance we had of avoiding the drop by our own efforts.

 

[Grayson]

It seems to me you're ignoring our Chairman's legendary reluctance to spend money at the appropriate time.His well documented refusual to spend the fundshe''d previously promised in the January window (combined with our results in December/January against the teams around us in the table) cost us any realistic chance we had of avoiding the drop by our own efforts.

He didn't spend in January because he felt we were already down and it'd be wiser spent in the summer rebuild. Many disagreed at the time but RM has got lucky with that call.

He clearly is willing to spend decent money on the playing budget. So many of the wasters in the past 2 years have been on very good money and that's been much of the problem. That problem has now gone.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

He didn't spend in January because he felt we were already down and it'd be wiser spent in the summer rebuild. Many disagreed at the time but RM has got lucky with that call.

He clearly is willing to spend decent money on the playing budget. So many of the wasters in the past 2 years have been on very good money and that's been much of the problem. That problem has now gone.

Let's hope so.