Planning Updates- All The Latest Details. 28/03/2022

[Holy Joe]

Ron said in the last zoom call his son has no interest in being part of this project ?

I think he was refering to running the football club. His son is a 'property developer'.

 

[kentblues]

Ron said in the last zoom call his son has no interest in being part of this project ?

All I can say is the company set up for the project had two directors- Della and Ron's son. If I have time I will try and dig out out again- but my world is very busy at the moment..

 

[kentblues]

All I can say is the company set up for the project had two directors- Della and Ron's son. If I have time I will try and dig out out again- but my world is very busy at the moment..

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[kentblues]

That hasn't changed.
Something I can give you that you might find very interesting indeed as it now published

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Ron resigned as a director of Roots Hall Limited on 14th March.
Jack Martin is the sole director. Shhh. Entre nous..

 

[kentblues]

BTW purely the football club (i.e. as opposed from who owns the stadium, the land or is a party to the development) you/he is correct- no Jack.

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[kentblues]

Ron has detached himself from the parties/companies contracting for the development.

 

[londonblue]

Ron has detached himself from the parties/companies contracting for the development.

I wonder if that is to ensure there's no issue with money being loaned while his court case looms large.

 

[kentblues]

I wonder if that is to ensure there's no issue with money being loaned while his court case looms large.

Regarding the development, all the contracting parties are companies not individuals. An important distinction. Nonetheless, Ron is not now a director of any of those contracting companies. Whilst perhaps if he was a director that distinction would still apply, this way it would be difficult to see an issue in either fact or, indeed, appearance that would cause a problem to the relevant parties progressing.

 

[londonblue]

Regarding the development, all the contracting parties are companies not individuals. An important distinction. Nonetheless, Ron is not now a director of any of those contracting companies. Whilst perhaps if he was a director that distinction would still apply, this way it would be difficult to see an issue in either fact or, indeed, appearance that would cause a problem to the relevant parties progressing.

I know the distinction, I just wonder whether he did it to be absolutely sure.

 

[kentblues]

I know the distinction, I just wonder whether he did it to be absolutely sure.

TBH whilst RHL was the corporate entity the fact their were only two directors of whom Ron was one would mean the distinction would look very thin- substance over form. So exit stage left was probably a necessity in practical terms.

 

[Tommy2holes]

TBH whilst RHL was the corporate entity the fact their were only two directors of whom Ron was one would mean the distinction would look very thin- substance over form. So exit stage left was probably a necessity in practical terms.

I'd be interested to know what your personal thoughts are Kent blues ie do you feel the project will go ahead.

 

[Medway Blue]

TBH whilst RHL was the corporate entity the fact their were only two directors of whom Ron was one would mean the distinction would look very thin- substance over form. So exit stage left was probably a necessity in practical terms.

Indeed. I think the reason is simple.

The Government can't/don't want to be seen to be loaning money (through Homes England) to a project fronted by a man who they have hauled into court for defrauding the public purse.

It's an image thing and I heard some while ago that it was likely to happen.

 

[Cricko]

Hmmm.

Southend United: Ron Martin steps down from Fossetts Farm firm​

THE Government says there is “no formal commitment” in place for a £30million injection to bankroll plans to build a new Southend United stadium and more than a thousand homes.

Homes England has confirmed that discussions have taken place over the housing element of the Fossetts Farm plan, but no agreement is in place and any deal would be “subject to detailed DD”.

The loan was previously described as “absolutely crucial” to the project for a state-of-the-art stadium, a 107-bedroom hotel, and more than a thousand homes, by Southend Council leader Ian Gilbert.

Homes England had been expected to loan the money to Roots Hall Limited, the firm behind the development.

Southend UTD v Oxford, Blues lost 4-0, PIc LM 23/11/2019.Ron Martin.

It comes two weeks after Ron Martin, chairman of the Blues, resigned as director of Roots Hall Limited.
His son Jack remains as director of the company.
Ron Martin, who has been Southend United chairman since 2000, is currently waiting to stand trial after being charged with failing to pay more than £5million in tax.

A spokesperson for Homes England commented: “Whilst Homes England has previously held discussions with the landowner to determine how we could best support the scheme to unlock housing, we have not made a formal commitment.
“Any infrastructure loan or formal offer of infrastructure loan will be subject to detailed DD.”

Investment - The Fossetts Farm development

Martin, 68, and former chief executive Geoffrey King, 75, are accused of failing to pay £4,485,000 in Value Added Tax over the sale of land in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
The pair are also accused of failing to pay £921,260 of VAT in relation to the sale of land in Thundersley, to the same firm, Redrow Homes PLC.
Southend Council remains hopeful a deal can be struck to ensure the development, which is expected to bring £500million to the town and create more than 1,000 new jobs, goes ahead.

Government says 'no commitment' in place for £30m loan for new Southend United stadium

THE Government says there is “no formal commitment” in place for a £30million injection to bankroll plans to build a new Southend United…

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[OldBlueLady]

Martin, 68, and former chief executive Geoffrey King, 75, are accused of failing to pay £4,485,000 in Value Added Tax over the sale of land in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
The pair are also accused of failing to pay £921,260 of VAT in relation to the sale of land in Thundersley, to the same firm, Redrow Homes PLC.

Hmmm...never knew about the Thundersley ones, that will be these then

 

[pottster]

As I said in an earlier post, ron or whoever is building it doesnt have the money! Talk is cheap but cash builds stadiums!

 

[Supa Shrimpa]

I think we deserve a full explanation of what's going on with the finances of the football club, NOW !

 

[WestStandBlue]

Pretty much expected and not a shock. Let’s hope Ron has been looking at options, he would of known this months ago

 

[sufc4life21]

Pretty much expected and not a shock. Let’s hope Ron has been looking at options, he would of known this months ago

His options are pretty limited! I knew his potential fraud case would have impact in regards to sufc new stadium.

 

[Tommy2holes]

So we are led to believe that its pretty much all agreed and now it seems that its not the case at all.

When will this ever end. We cannot stay at roots hall indefinitely. It's falling apart.

We need a new owner

 

[pottster]

Any lender will do DD, and look at ron and steer clear.