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Planning Updates- All The Latest Details. 28/03/2022

Do you mean sell the land, as it is, with the planning permission? I have no idea of land values, but it certainly sounds like an option for him.
Thats what I'm thinking, the value of the land must have gone up massively now planning permission has been granted, there's no guarantee he will still be around by the time everything is built and he can cash out.

I'm probably reading far too much into it
 
Thats what I'm thinking, the value of the land must have gone up massively now planning permission has been granted, there's no guarantee he will still be around by the time everything is built and he can cash out.

I'm probably reading far too much into it
If it was just a housing development, I would think there would be interest from the regular house building companies and he would probably be able to get a fairly quick sale.

The problem for potential buyers would be having to also build a stadium and training ground. It s harder to see how they get a decent return on their investment for that part.
 
We were told that funding was agreed and that as soon as the stadium and housing was agreed and local and of needed national level then it would be funds released time.

It sounds as though that isn't the case at all. So, either something has changed or the original information was innacuate.

People say take a chill pill etc but it's the same old. Smoke and mirrors and further hurdles.
Have you seen anywhere that funding has not been agreed? All the article says is about Homes England but maybe there is external funding. Also we are in the middle of a 6 week wait so why not just see what happens?
 
Well, perhaps if our owner engaged with the fanbase in an open and honest way, fans wouldn't need to jump to conclusions because they'd already have the facts
Owners and club officials can’t comment on numerous things for business reasons. Very few other clubs are open about everything inside the club and rightly so. Some fans seem to think because Stan etc done a few zooms before they are entitled to all the ins and outs now. If there is a building firm trying to get the contract to build all this they are not going to want it all going public until it is all agreed. There are so many people involved in a project of this scale it is much better to keep it all internal between the parties.
 
Owners and club officials can’t comment on numerous things for business reasons. Very few other clubs are open about everything inside the club and rightly so. Some fans seem to think because Stan etc done a few zooms before they are entitled to all the ins and outs now. If there is a building firm trying to get the contract to build all this they are not going to want it all going public until it is all agreed. There are so many people involved in a project of this scale it is much better to keep it all internal between the parties.
I'm not interested in what other clubs do or don't do. The fact is, our finances are shot to pieces and he's giving no indication of how they will be repiared, other than this dream of a stadium. The promises have been going on such a long time, I think the supporters are entitled to know the latest position. Otherwise, the club could vanish from thin air before our very eyes and we did nothing about it.
 
I'm not interested in what other clubs do or don't do. The fact is, our finances are shot to pieces and he's giving no indication of how they will be repiared, other than this dream of a stadium. The promises have been going on such a long time, I think the supporters are entitled to know the latest position. Otherwise, the club could vanish from thin air before our very eyes and we did nothing about it.
Again I think you need to take a step back and have a look at this from a different angle than the one you currently are. Ron has clearly relinquished a huge amount of control on the club, we have people who know what they are doing in the right places now, we have paid fees for recent transfers, we aren’t under an embargo and haven’t been for some time now, results saw a huge improvement etc. You along with a handful of others clearly have one major issue and can’t see progress anywhere even when it is there and clear to see. The stadium is much closer that it ever has been before and you have taken one article from a local paper and taken it as a huge issue when you don’t know the full story. There is no way all this effort would be going in without something potentially already being agreed or close to being agreed. Why don’t you wait until April when the 6 weeks are up and see what happens then as nothing can start until that 6 week period is up anyway. Be positive about the changes over the last 8 months rather than constantly trying to find a negative even though there isn’t necessarily one there currently.
 
What I would point out is "formal commitment" only happens when Homes England approve/sign their side agreement. Until then there is "no formal commitment". Their DD will require review of all the other agreements between the parties, and for their DD to be completed. It might be Homes England are doing that now- but until complete and they are happy it remains that there is "no formal commitment".

A long way of saying I would be reading too much into it.
 
Again I think you need to take a step back and have a look at this from a different angle than the one you currently are. Ron has clearly relinquished a huge amount of control on the club, we have people who know what they are doing in the right places now, we have paid fees for recent transfers, we aren’t under an embargo and haven’t been for some time now, results saw a huge improvement etc. You along with a handful of others clearly have one major issue and can’t see progress anywhere even when it is there and clear to see. The stadium is much closer that it ever has been before and you have taken one article from a local paper and taken it as a huge issue when you don’t know the full story. There is no way all this effort would be going in without something potentially already being agreed or close to being agreed. Why don’t you wait until April when the 6 weeks are up and see what happens then as nothing can start until that 6 week period is up anyway. Be positive about the changes over the last 8 months rather than constantly trying to find a negative even though there isn’t necessarily one there cu
I don't think I need to look at it from a different angle. Why has he relinquished control of the club ? Who is in charge of the finances, now ? How have we managed to afford fees for recent transfers when we can't even submit the co. accounts on time ? Just because we've had a good run of results and the football managment team seem to be doing well, it doesn't suddenly make our finances better. Maybe better attendances, and we sell more merchandise, but that's a drop in the ocean compared to how much debt we are in. All it does is stop the fickle fans from asking questions.
 
I don't think I need to look at it from a different angle. Why has he relinquished control of the club ? Who is in charge of the finances, now ? How have we managed to afford fees for recent transfers when we can't even submit the co. accounts on time ? Just because we've had a good run of results and the football managment team seem to be doing well, it doesn't suddenly make our finances better. Maybe better attendances, and we sell more merchandise, but that's a drop in the ocean compared to how much debt we are in. All it does is stop the fickle fans from asking questions.
I think you're getting confused with the club and the property, he has not stepped back from financing providing for the club/running the club, he has just handed over the property companies and its assets to others.
 
I think you're getting confused with the club and the property, he has not stepped back from financing providing for the club/running the club, he has just handed over the property companies and its assets to others.
Sorry, i'll rephrase. Why has he relinquished control of the property companies and its assets that the club is relying on to repair it's finances ?
 
Sorry, i'll rephrase. Why has he relinquished control of the property companies and its assets that the club is relying on to repair it's finances ?
You need to take a look at all the facts. This doesn’t change much at all it is him just doing housekeeping for his upcoming court case and also allowing there to be a longer term structure to the companies that are going to be getting the finance.
 
Well, if he's done that because the court case makes his own companies unstable (we assume), then why are shrimpers fans content that he's still at the helm at SUFC ?
You're making an assumption there that I think is not the case.

I would suggest he's doing what he's doing to protect the Club and his other assets should the worst happen.
 
You're making an assumption there that I think is not the case.

I would suggest he's doing what he's doing to protect the Club and his other assets should the worst happen.
Surely, if he was protecting the club, he'd resign from the club aswell and put someobody more suitable in his position....rather than just protecting his assets ???
 
Surely, if he was protecting the club, he'd resign from the club aswell and put someobody more suitable in his position....rather than just protecting his assets ???
Homes England is the organisation which will be lending £30 Mil to whichever of Ron's Companies owns the land at Fossets Farm, in order to finance the start of the build.

They are effectively an extension of the Housing Ministry (part of the government).
Ron is to stand trial on a charge of cheating the public purse, or defrauding the Inland Revenue (another part of Government).

So, there is a potential problem. How can one government department lend money to a company he controls when he is accused of defrauding another government department of £5 mil. ?

It is therefore sensible for Ron to stand down from the board of the Fossets Farm owning company. He would no doubt have been advised to do this in order to try to demonstrate that he is not in control of the land owning company. He will not appear now on the list of current directors.

The football club do not own the land at Fossets Farm and are not directly involved so there is no immediate need for him to resign there.
 
Homes England is the organisation which will be lending £30 Mil to whichever of Ron's Companies owns the land at Fossets Farm, in order to finance the start of the build.

They are effectively an extension of the Housing Ministry (part of the government).
Ron is to stand trial on a charge of cheating the public purse, or defrauding the Inland Revenue (another part of Government).

So, there is a potential problem. How can one government department lend money to a company he controls when he is accused of defrauding another government department of £5 mil. ?

It is therefore sensible for Ron to stand down from the board of the Fossets Farm owning company. He would no doubt have been advised to do this in order to try to demonstrate that he is not in control of the land owning company. He will not appear now on the list of current directors.

The football club do not own the land at Fossets Farm and are not directly involved so there is no immediate need for him to resign there.
My point is....irrsepective of the planning, is it sensible for someboy who is to stand trial on a charge of cheating the public purse to still be the chair of our beloved football club ? OBL suggests "he's doing what he's doing to protect the Club and his other assets should the worst happen". Is it really protecting the club ?
 
It hardly matters about his directorship of the club. The club has no real value and exists only because it is propped up by loans from Ron via another of his companies.

He may decide to resign in order to save the club from any potential negative publicity resulting from the trial, but I'm not sure there would be any other reason for him to do it.

Ideally you would not want someone awaiting a trial of this sort to be the chairman of the club. However, this is not an ideal situation.
 

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