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[Thorpe Groyney]

I never realised the son of Mother Teresa was a SEEVIC graduate. How very disappointed people on the mean streets of Thundersley and Kolkatta must be now.

 

[Paul Shrimper]

For what it is worth I saw Mat Harold elbow Barker early in the game. The ref blew for a foul and lecturered Harold at length. If the ref thought it a deliberate act he should have sent him off. That is not my opnion it is the Laws of the game. If he did not think it deliberate he should not have blown for the foul or lectured the player. Again that is not my opinion it is the Laws of the game. Secondly, Harold hand balled the ball to control it with his arm prior to the first goal being scored. The lino pointed to his arm so obviously he does not know the Laws of the game either. The suggests a poor state that the game is in today. The incident with Moshni it appeared that Harold tried but misseed in his attempt to kick out at Moshni. However, the incident did force Moshni to take evasive action and causing an injury which hopefully is not serious.

However, Harold DID over celebrate his goal, should not have been on the pitch at that time and continued to gloat to the crowd. Some very good reasons why the crowd had a go at him. It is not our fault that he failed as a player at Roots Hall but his own. Therefore he needs to move on.

Putting things in perpective we would not have scored on Saturday if we played all night purely because we were not good enough. Therefore, despite the wrong doings of the officials and Mat Harold we only have ourselves to blame for not scoring a goal.

Upwards and Onwards.

UTB

 

[Mick]

For what it is worth I saw Mat Harold elbow Barker early in the game. The ref blew for a foul and lecturered Harold at length. If the ref thought it a deliberate act he should have sent him off. That is not my opnion it is the Laws of the game. If he did not think it deliberate he should not have blown for the foul or lectured the player. Again that is not my opinion it is the Laws of the game.

Paul, if you are going to quote the Laws of The Game, probably best to get it right. A foul does not have to be deliberate, although handball does. If, in the opinion of the referee, it was accidental and careless a free-kick and a warning would be the correct way to deal with it. If he thought it was deliberate, possibly a yellow or red card would be the correct sanction depending on the perceived degree of violence.

If he thought it was accidental, but very serious, he could still show a card of whatever colour he thought appropriate.

 

[Mick]

Ever so slightly hypocritical a stance to take, considering you seem to be condoning Mohsni's antics.

Mohsni and Harrold were at eachother's throats all game. I understand during the away fixture, Mohsni got a little wound up then too? They knew exactly how to get at him and how to unsettle him, and it worked.

Yes, Macca was also one for the odd transgression too !

 

[pickledseal]

For what it is worth I saw Mat Harold elbow Barker early in the game. The ref blew for a foul and lecturered Harold at length. If the ref thought it a deliberate act he should have sent him off. That is not my opnion it is the Laws of the game. If he did not think it deliberate he should not have blown for the foul or lectured the player. Again that is not my opinion it is the Laws of the game. Secondly, Harold hand balled the ball to control it with his arm prior to the first goal being scored. The lino pointed to his arm so obviously he does not know the Laws of the game either. The suggests a poor state that the game is in today. The incident with Moshni it appeared that Harold tried but misseed in his attempt to kick out at Moshni. However, the incident did force Moshni to take evasive action and causing an injury which hopefully is not serious.

However, Harold DID over celebrate his goal, should not have been on the pitch at that time and continued to gloat to the crowd. Some very good reasons why the crowd had a go at him. It is not our fault that he failed as a player at Roots Hall but his own. Therefore he needs to move on.

Putting things in perpective we would not have scored on Saturday if we played all night purely because we were not good enough. Therefore, despite the wrong doings of the officials and Mat Harold we only have ourselves to blame for not scoring a goal.

Upwards and Onwards.

UTB

Paul, this is pretty much the post I was about to write! Spot on!

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I thought Harrold was very restrained during his celebrations given the stick he's taken from the Roots Hall unfaithful over the years.

I also thought the ref was very restrained in not showing Harrold a card earlier for his repeated fouling and that Mohsni was a headcase. It's no surprise that he failed to last 90 minutes, the surprise being more that he hopped off rather than was dragged off in a strait-jacket.

 

[Calvin Candie]

Im sorry but harolds performance was scandelous yesterday. Is that the way to play to constantly foul handle the ball and injure others?

Yeah id love to have a player like that in our side . It makes me laugh that people are saying that they would rather had harold than corr. How many goals has matt harold scored this season and how many corr. Just because matt harold scores a good finish it makes him desirable. He was **** when we had him and he is **** now.

On another day there would be no assist as it would have been called for handball and there would be no goal as he would have been sent off for numerous hand balls and fouls including studs against mohsni and an elbow on barker.

The fact that some on here are praising harolds performance is a joke.

Finally some sense

cant believe some people are defending him and arse licking him on twitter. Matt Harold is **** and lazy and allways has been, he has had one decent game out of a bunch. Would have Barry Corr anyday.

 

[Blue_Wes]

For what it is worth I saw Mat Harold elbow Barker early in the game. The ref blew for a foul and lecturered Harold at length. If the ref thought it a deliberate act he should have sent him off. That is not my opnion it is the Laws of the game. If he did not think it deliberate he should not have blown for the foul or lectured the player. Again that is not my opinion it is the Laws of the game. Secondly, Harold hand balled the ball to control it with his arm prior to the first goal being scored. The lino pointed to his arm so obviously he does not know the Laws of the game either. The suggests a poor state that the game is in today. The incident with Moshni it appeared that Harold tried but misseed in his attempt to kick out at Moshni. However, the incident did force Moshni to take evasive action and causing an injury which hopefully is not serious.

However, Harold DID over celebrate his goal, should not have been on the pitch at that time and continued to gloat to the crowd. Some very good reasons why the crowd had a go at him. It is not our fault that he failed as a player at Roots Hall but his own. Therefore he needs to move on.

Putting things in perpective we would not have scored on Saturday if we played all night purely because we were not good enough. Therefore, despite the wrong doings of the officials and Mat Harold we only have ourselves to blame for not scoring a goal.

Upwards and Onwards.

UTB

This is basically my view on the game. Incidentally, I thought an elbow albeit deliberate or accidental was also an immediate red card as considered dangerous play - how often do you hear commentators saying, "well he's led with his arm he has to go" so Mick - thanks I've learned something there.

I do also feel that if it was another player that had elbowed Barker and left him in a crumpled heap (and we know he's a tought cookie), that handled (ok it was his raised arm) the ball to set up the first, and then raked his studs down the back of Mohsni's calf - which is why Bilel went mental - this happened right in front of us so we had a good view, and ran towards the West (before very quickly, and wisely if the reports of thrown coins are true turning towards his own fans) then there would be nowhere near as many people on here defending him. Also I think if people had the view of Harrold's tackle on Mohsni as we did, then there would be a lot less people defending him also. He had a hard time here, but the reaction on Saturday was a direct result of Harrold's actions on the pitch, starting with the the elbow on Barker. Because of his recklessness and over the top physical approach he could very easily have caused long term injuries to both Barker and Mohsni (I don't know how much of an impact Harrolds tackle actually had on Mohsni's eventual injury), yet others on here choose to ignore that and condemn their own fans and Mohsni himself. If true about items being thrown then that's wrong, although as far as I can tell no-one has confirmed this, and those fans should be banned, but as for the verbal abuse/banter, he's an opposition player and one that was playing well on the day (despite his altercations), I'm all for giving him a hard ride to try and disrupt his play. As said though this would only work if our own players performed as well.

 

[C C Csiders]

Poor 'ickle ginger boy. Why are so many being nasty to you? It is obviously that horrible French/Tunisian that is at fault for your out-of-character nastiness at the weekend.

 

[londonblue]

Im sorry but harolds performance was scandelous yesterday. Is that the way to play to constantly foul handle the ball and injure others?

It probably is if you're a forward. You only have to get away with it once to score a goal. I think Steve Bull was a perfect example of this. He would continually foul and handle the ball knowing that at worst the ref would award a free kick, and at best he would score. All he had to do was score before the ref lost patience and he wouldn't get booked.

 

[Beefy]

Fair play to him. You cannot have it both ways

I completely agree. I don't understand why fans are so precious all the time, getting upset at the nasty ginger man who decided to celebrate his goal in front of the people who had abused him for two years when he was here. Fair play to him.

 

[TravellingBlue]

I completely agree. I don't understand why fans are so precious all the time, getting upset at the nasty ginger man who decided to celebrate his goal in front of the people who had abused him for two years when he was here. Fair play to him.

Got to agree with you!!

 

[Beardoblue]

Im sorry Beefy and others but if you cannot understand why the fans got upset with Ginger you should go and watch crown bowls or some just sport. Before the match started when the teams were read out Harrolds name didnt even get much of a boo lets face it none of us were sorry to see him go so wouldnt get to upset that thank goodness he was elsewhere. Then we had the elbow quickly followed by the hand ball and going on to a nasty incident with Mohsni and running towards the home fans when you scored. Someone said perhaps that is where he used to run when he scored for us pleaseeeeeeeee he didnt score enough to get into that habit so thats rubbish. Harrold knew exactly what he was doing he was out to wind the crowd up for having the audacity to boo him when he was a useless player for us. And no he hasnt suddenly become an amazing player he just lifted his game for this one match and will become his useless self again next week.

 

[Fish]

I wasn't at the game Saturday because I was officiating elsewhere. Saw the BBC 'highlights' which conveniently show nothing of the clash between 'Ginger Spite' and Mohsni.

However, reading the whole thread, I'm now clear that:
- Roots Hall shows more passion in vilifying ex-Southend players than in supporting current ones.
- Harrold was clearly pumped up to make a nuisance of himself. Why should we expect anything else?
- If Harrold did elbow Barker and got a talking to for it, he's a very very lucky boy. Don't understand why football refs are so spineless with discipline.
- People who throw coins at the pitch should be thrown out and never let back in
- Harrold clearly handled the ball in the run up to the first goal, and it was arm to ball too. Nothing accidental about that - he had plenty of time to get his arm out of the way and didn't. Yellow card, free kick defence. How did the ref not see it? Could understand lino not seeing it, as he could have been blind sided by Harrold's body.
- However, when an opposition player has just handled the ball, play on until the ref tells you otherwise. Don't stand there with your arm in the air like a ****. You never know, you might even get a tackle in to prevent the attack they're getting on with in your absence.
- What a great finish for the second goal. Why didn't he do that at Roots Hall? Perhaps because he was being abused by the same people now saying they'd rather have him than Barry Corr (qv my first point)
- Celebrating in front of the west? Yellow card. Though he may not have known they were home fans because as has been pointed out already, he never really did much goal celebration at Roots Hall in a blue shirt.
- Bil doesn't go down like that for nothing. Ref wouldn't necessarily know and can't take that into account of course, but Bil was clearly hurt. Saying 'I didn't mean it is an insult to your profession, Mr Harrold.

 

[Smiffy]

Got no problem with Harrold running over and "celebrating" in front of W Block.

99% of us were giving him stick during the game and he replied perfectly.

Killed the atmosphere dead as well.

Yes, it incited the crowd and that was to be expected. No different to any other ground in world football.

Time to move on I think.

 

[Beefy]

Harrold knew exactly what he was doing he was out to wind the crowd up for having the audacity to boo him when he was a useless player for us. .

And why shouldn't he? As Smiffy said, it was the perfect response to the stick he took.

 

[GrumpyBlue]

And yet I'd still have him in our forward line over Barry Corr at the moment.....

From what I`ve seen of Corr (the last two games) I would have Matt Harrold back

 

[Gremlin]

Before the match started when the teams were read out Harrolds name didnt even get much of a boo.

So he should have taken that moment to forget in a second the treatment he received from the intelligentsia over many months at Roots Hall?

 

[grassroots]

I find it hard to understand the hate that masquerades as loyalty to your team, but I suppose its a symptom of the times. There are still a few who will give a gentle clap if a member of the opposition does something well (Harolds goal for instance) but mainly it’s pathetic, hissing vitriol that spills over onto sites such as this. Very sad!

 

[mattytheshrimper]

i can't be bothered to get into this but one thing i couldn't believe about harrold was the fact that in the 2nd half he actually caught the the ball with 2 hands yet we didnt even get a foul. personally i think he could have got 4 yellows easily in that game. i didnt see what happened between him and bilel but i have been told it should have been a straight red. that being said the ref was too busy chatting the players up and smiling away to be bothered to control the game.