John Terry and the 'unacceptability of racism'

[Benfleet A1]

OK, fair enough. But as always Al you are the exception that proves the rule1

Nah, I wouldn't say that, I have just led a colourful life.




























See what I did there? :smile:

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Someone has hacked Rusty's account - Mods sort it out please!

 

[TrueBlue]

If i shouted out .. "do one blackie" at a football match (ie not swearing) i'd possibly be arrested and charged for racism, and banned from football

if a black fella shouted "do one whitey" would he be treated the same ??

Of course not!

End of the day us 'whiteys' dont see being called white a problem why? because we feel superior anyway!

Its the mentality I think

 

[MK Shrimper]

Of course not!

End of the day us 'whiteys' dont see being called white a problem why? because we feel superior anyway!

Its the mentality I think

Jesus H Christ on a bike.

 

[londonblue]

Just another couple of those obvious questions where you know the answer anyway. Ultimately, it comes down to being sensible. Tesco should be aware, as I'm sure they are, that if they're going to launch ranges of babies in different colours, it's going to need a little more care and attention than launching two different flavours of baked beans. It's the world we live in and launching the two at different prices was, for whatever reason, accidental or otherwise, pretty careless.

As for the thread:



That's kind of where I was going.

What kind of world would we be living in if Tescos started selling babies?

 

[londonblue]

That really is one of the key factors though isn't it? I very much doubt that white people generally DO take offence!

One of the companies I used to work for, an investment bank brought in a "Dignity at Work" concept which I still adhere to because it makes complete sense. The basic rule was that you shouldn't do or say anything that MAY upset anyone in the office. What you have to think about is not whether or not you would take offence, but if (for example) the person you're talking to would take offence. It's about having empathy, and taking other peoples' feelings into account.

Personally I think if we all adhered to that then this would be a non issue.

 

[Jam_Man]

One of the companies I used to work for, an investment bank brought in a "Dignity at Work" concept which I still adhere to because it makes complete sense. The basic rule was that you shouldn't do or say anything that MAY upset anyone in the office. What you have to think about is not whether or not you would take offence, but if (for example) the person you're talking to would take offence. It's about having empathy, and taking other peoples' feelings into account.

Personally I think if we all adhered to that then this would be a non issue.

That offends me.

 

[londonblue]

That offends me.

Ahh, **** off ****.

 

[South Bank Hank]

What kind of world would we be living in if Tescos started selling babies?

All depends on which aisle they put them in. Frozen food would probably cause all sorts of issues, so again I'd hope they did it sensitively.




Ie: should they price fat kids higher as they will sustain a family longer?

 

[hockleyeast1964]

fat kids would be pricede higher for their delicious crackling.

 

[Jam_Man]

John Terry to selling fat babies for crackling in under 9 pages.

Only on the Zone....:smile:

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

John Terry to selling fat babies for crackling in under 9 pages.

Only on the Zone....:smile:

Yes, the Swiftness is surprising.

 

[OldBlueLady]

One of the companies I used to work for, an investment bank brought in a "Dignity at Work" concept which I still adhere to because it makes complete sense. The basic rule was that you shouldn't do or say anything that MAY upset anyone in the office. What you have to think about is not whether or not you would take offence, but if (for example) the person you're talking to would take offence. It's about having empathy, and taking other peoples' feelings into account.

Personally I think if we all adhered to that then this would be a non issue.

That's basically what any self respecting person teaches their youngsters though, and a fundamental one of the Ten Commandments...."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I think the thing about this case, which is presenting the whole world of football in a less than savoury light, is that stuff had already gone on before which was clearly deemed ok. As far as what we're doing, well, to me we're debating the subject, discussing it.

 

[Beefy]

The Prosecution are getting desperate and are basically saying that Ferdinand is too thick to be making this all up.

Pros: "what sort of accuser claims not to have heard the offending words and then appears clueless?"

It's like that episode of Red Dwarf where Kryton defends Rimmer by claiming that he's too stupid to have commited the crime he's accused of.

Who would make up this allegation if it wasn't true and then act so stupid? Only a yoghurt.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Or a bit like Harry Redknapp saying he's never read a book, sent a letter / fax / text in his life and doesn't know what an email is. He got off.

 

[Beefy]

Redknapp was the accused though. It's a bit off for the Prosecution to be portraying Ferdinand as a moron.

 

[londonblue]

That's basically what any self respecting person teaches their youngsters though, and a fundamental one of the Ten Commandments...."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I think the thing about this case, which is presenting the whole world of football in a less than savoury light, is that stuff had already gone on before which was clearly deemed ok. As far as what we're doing, well, to me we're debating the subject, discussing it.

That's exactly my point.

 

[Pubey]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...ase-please-could-you-repeat-that-7936075.html

In a hilarious misunderstanding, John Terry was asked to repeat evidence that he had been sent off four times in his career.

“Can you say, please, four times?” asked his QC, George Carter-Stephenson.

“Please, please, please, please,” Terry responded.

Guffaws of laughter broke out around the courtroom at the misunderstanding, which was a result of the judge asking Terry to speak up.

The footballer appeared confused by response from the courtroom.

 

[Beefy]

I've a certain sympathy for Terry there. I've been questioned and cross-examined in Court before and it's a stressful experience. I can see how he might not have been listening to the first part of the sentence.

 

[Pubey]

I've a certain sympathy for Terry there. I've been questioned and cross-examined in Court before and it's a stressful experience. I can see how he might not have been listening to the first part of the sentence.

I agree, my Dad was saying that the other day when he had to give evidence, extremely stressful. Still, pretty amusing!