Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[Swiss Tony]

That's quite an assumption. Once 'call me Dave' has stepped down and they have either Boris or Osborne at the helm, I don't think they'll be quite so electable.

They will be if the old IRA lover is still about.

 

[callan]

Spend spend spend eh? Funny how the defecit has rocketed since 2010 but Tories still peddle the line about Labour spending.

Just to fill in the picture, the figure was £107bn in 2014. Wonder how big it'll rise to in 2015?

I'm struggling with you filling in the picture with a figure of £107 bn, I do love a leftie fact so can you please explain what the 107 billion represents?....I assume it the level of increase which we are borrowing per annum?

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I'd be interested to see what "hard evidence" you can produce for your first two assertions.

Your last claim is, of course, a matter of opinion, which in your case results from believing everything you read in the Daily Mail.

Pretty rich coming from you. Sorry, should say, even coming from you.

 

[callan]

See that's called cold hard facts.

Indeed however in your original post you claimed that spending had rocketed under the Tories, however this is far less than in the years of Labour, in 2002 the figure according to your chart is less than 40 per cent rising to just under 78 per cent in 2010 that's a 38 per cent increase compared to 12 per cent of increase under the Tories....that my friend is a cold hard fact.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Indeed however in your original post you claimed that spending had rocketed under the Tories, however this is far less than in the years of Labour, in 2002 the figure according to your chart is less than 40 per cent rising to just under 78 per cent in 2010 that's a 38 per cent increase compared to 12 per cent of increase under the Tories....that my friend is a cold hard fact.

I do love a right wing distortion of a fact to prove a lie.

 

[callan]

I do love a right wing distortion of a fact to prove a lie.

All I have done is used the figures you presented....can you confirm where I have distorted them?

 

[callan]

Damn you MK!

As you were mrs b, simply look at MK's chart closely and see where the real increase comes (ie under Labour).

You gotta love a cold hard fact!

 

[MK Shrimper]

All I have done is used the figures you presented....can you confirm where I have distorted them?

The debt has risen to an eye watering level despite Tory claims that is has fallen. It hasn't. A 12% increase is just that...an increase.

 

[callan]

The debt has risen to an eye watering level despite Tory claims that is has fallen. It hasn't. A 12% increase is just that...an increase.

Aren't the Tories claiming to cut the deficit which isn't the same as debt?

That 12 per cent figure which is a 1/3 of the Labour figure?????

 

[MK Shrimper]

Aren't the Tories claiming to cut the deficit which isn't the same as debt?

Also you omitted where I am supposed to have distorted the cold hard facts?

Here you go, someone more qualified than me.... http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2013/11/the-tories-have-piled-on-more-debt-than-labour/

Osborne has borrowed more in under four years than the Labour Party borrowed over 13 years.

 

[callan]

Here you go, someone more qualified than me.... http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2013/11/the-tories-have-piled-on-more-debt-than-labour/

Osborne has borrowed more in under four years than the Labour Party borrowed over 13 years.

You are now posting something from 2013?....are you sure you want to use that link?

Again are we talking about debt or deficit?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

The loony left demand these people receive even more money just in case they ever got off their arse and pick fruit and veg.

You need an address to receive benefits so if they are living in tents it doesn't sound like they are receiving any money.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

You are now posting something from 2013?....are you sure you want to use that link?

Again are we talking about debt or deficit?

They consistently allude to the great works they are doing with the economy so surely if they are achieving so much we would see major improvements in debt and deficit?

 

[callan]

They consistently allude to the great works they are doing with the economy so surely if they are achieving so much we would see major improvements in debt and deficit?

Well the fact they haven't sold our gold reserves, or left notes at the treasury saying that there's no money left would suggest a huge improvement wouldn't you agree?

 

[OldBlueLady]

That's quite an assumption. Once 'call me Dave' has stepped down and they have either Boris or Osborne at the helm, I don't think they'll be quite so electable.

Are you joking? Boris is the Tory poster boy!

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Well the fact they haven't sold our gold reserves, or left notes at the treasury saying that there's no money left would suggest a huge improvement wouldn't you agree?

Not really. The note was a very poor joke by an individual who has rightly been made to feel like an idiot ever since. And the current lot have sold off anything they can at knock down prices. So not a great improvement really.

 

[callan]

Are you joking? Boris is the Tory poster boy!

Indeed my wife who has never voted in her life, has confirmed that she will vote for Boris if he becomes Tory leader.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Are you joking? Boris is the Tory poster boy!

He is popular in London but apparently that doesn't travel so well to other parts of the country. Even within the party he is not that popular because he doesn't follow the party line enough. I think that the party machine are also aware that he doesn't work very hard - delegates to much and is more into media appearances than committee meetings.
More lively than your average politician but that seems to be his only real selling point

 

[callan]

Not really. The note was a very poor joke by an individual who has rightly been made to feel like an idiot ever since. And the current lot have sold off anything they can at knock down prices. So not a great improvement really.

A joke would be an excellent way of summing up Labours time in charge of the economy.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

A joke would be an excellent way of summing up Labours time in charge of the economy.

If it was a joke then you will presumably find a lot more amusement in Iceland, Ireland, Greece, Italy, Spain....it was a time where every country was amused to a large extent. The slowness of the recovery means the joke has worn a bit thin.