Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[EastStandBlue]

Are you joking? Boris is the Tory poster boy!

Not within the party he's not. If Osborne wants it, there's not a chance in hell they'll go with Boris over him.

Which is a shame, as Osborne's a **** of the highest possible grade. Good politician though, and he's obviously gearing himself up for a tilt at the top. Lost the puppy fat, high profile trips abroad, more prominent speeches... Even ****ed off Boris' address this week by hosting a frank and open Q&A with selected journalists at the same time.

 

[callan]

I'd be interested to see what "hard evidence" you can produce for your first two assertions.

Your last claim is, of course, a matter of opinion, which in your case results from believing everything you read in the Daily Mail.

According to Lord Mandelson, Labour sent out search parties to find immigrants to come to the UK.
Of course Labour eventually ended up apologising for their policy on immigration....

 

[callan]

If it was a joke then you will presumably find a lot more amusement in Iceland, Ireland, Greece, Italy, Spain....it was a time where every country was amused to a large extent. The slowness of the recovery means the joke has worn a bit thin.

We are recovering?....well I never, next you will be telling us that unemployment is down and wages are rising.....oh hang on.

Perhaps we should leave the last word to Ed Balls who actually apologised for Labours handling of the economy?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

We are recovering?....well I never, next you will be telling us that unemployment is down and wages are rising.....oh hang on.

Perhaps we should leave the last word to Ed Balls who actually apologised for Labours handling of the economy?

Unemployment has been falling due to the increase in poor quality jobs over the last few years. The very short run of wage increases does very little to make up for years of wage suppression. A tiny bit of short term better news does not justify getting the champers out.

Which Ed Balls quote are you referring to? Might need a bit of context on that.

 

[Pubey]

Unemployment has been falling due to the increase in poor quality jobs over the last few years. The very short run of wage increases does very little to make up for years of wage suppression. A tiny bit of short term better news does not justify getting the champers out.

Which Ed Balls quote are you referring to? Might need a bit of context on that.

Unemployment has also fallen because the tories cooked the books. They changed how employment/unemployment is measured, who can claim benefits, and the introduction of ineffective work and training programmes. All these changes (unsurprisingly) magicked away nearly 1m unemployed people from the books, even though they didn't go into employment.

 

[callan]

Unemployment has also fallen because the tories cooked the books. They changed how employment/unemployment is measured, who can claim benefits, and the introduction of ineffective work and training programmes. All these changes (unsurprisingly) magicked away nearly 1m unemployed people from the books, even though they didn't go into employment.

Has Labour ever left office with unemployment lower than when it started?

 

[Pubey]

Has Labour ever left office with unemployment lower than when it started?

Well we know the last two Labour govts did leave with higher unemployment that they started, but the increased rate and level of unemployment at the end of the last government in 2010 was in many ways due to the global economic downturn.

 

[callan]

Well we know the last two Labour govts did leave with higher unemployment that they started, but the increased rate and level of unemployment at the end of the last government in 2010 was in many ways due to the global economic downturn.

What about Labour goverments prior to that?

 

[Pubey]

What about Labour goverments prior to that?

I dunno, and I'm not really that bothered to look.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

What about Labour goverments prior to that?

They were all about repealing the corn laws! How far back do you want to go? That's pre Thatcher!

 

[callan]

They were all about repealing the corn laws! How far back do you want to go? That's pre Thatcher!

lets go back to the second world war shall we?

 

[steveo]

Whilst on the subject of war what do we all think about Jezzas support of the IRA?

 

[Pubey]

Whilst on the subject of war what do we all think about Jezzas support of the IRA?

Can you point out where he's said that he supports the ira?

 

[Benfleet A1]

Nothing like having the full backing of your own MP's, is there.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/10/labour-mps-defy-jeremy-corbyn-on-syria

 

[mrsblue]

I dunno, and I'm not really that bothered to look.

Typical lefty reply !

 

[mrsblue]

If Jezza shaved then dyed his hair black and slicked to one side and had a tiny tash above his lip.


Hmmmm.

 

[mrsblue]

Nothing like having the full backing of your own MP's, is there.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/10/labour-mps-defy-jeremy-corbyn-on-syria

Last week one of the Labour bods(cannot remember who)said that Jezza was a professional demonstrator but now had to transfer to being the leader of the oppo.:hilarious:

They are off their rockers.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Nothing like having the full backing of your own MP's, is there.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/10/labour-mps-defy-jeremy-corbyn-on-syria

Some people will just read the headline, and it is a bit misleading.


Labour MPs are very likely to be given a free vote on this, so that is not defying the leadership it is merely having a different opinion, and being able to express that.


And Cameron lost a vote in the Commons on military action in Syria in the last Parliament and has been bombing Syria in this Parliament without a new vote therefore without the backing of our elected representatives. That sounds like bigger news to me.

 

[steveo]

Can you point out where he's said that he supports the ira?

This article in the Telegraph.

•For seven years running, 1986-92, at the height of the IRA’s “armed struggle,” Jeremy Corbyn attended and spoke at official republican commemorations to honour dead IRA terrorists, IRA “prisoners of war” and the active “soldiers of the IRA”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11925052/Jeremy-Corbyn-Sinn-Fein-and-the-IRA-who-pulls-the-Labour-leaders-strings.html

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

This article in the Telegraph.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...IRA-who-pulls-the-Labour-leaders-strings.html

That Torygraph article is hilariously paranoid. What is the relevance of that WW2 bit? Scary that this was featured in a national newspaper. McCarthyism of the highest order.