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Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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mrsblue said:
Would working families actually sort it though ?

The pension scenario is indeed a major problem and IMO requires an overhaul by way of means testing,many have lucrative income streams yet still are able to claim state pension.
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Oh dear, yet another simplistic and unreal utterance (remember the leaflets to Africa to stop the boat traffickers naivety);
AND again, so off topic.

On Topic; JC becoming Labour leader will promote industrial/union strife to return and put the brakes onto this slow and weak economic growth in the UK.
 
You read it here first!!!! #322


NOW some labourites are worried about a split if JC wins.

To me, it appears there will be no proper and effective opposition to the tories for a few years or more.:'(
 
JC will not win the Leadership race. Sufficient votes from moderates in the party will prevent it.
 
In simple terms a lot of people are enthusiastic about JC and in reality can you name another politician of any party that people are enthusiastic about? Boris Johnson is the only one I can think of and that is based on being a 'character' rather than being any good at anything.
Enthusiasm about politics - that certainly has an appeal.
 
Genial Harry Grout said:
Don't forget to put your cross next to this guys name.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11787955/Jeremy-Corbyn-refuses-to-condemn-IRA-for-terrorist-atrocities.html

Someone to make you proud eh?
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Would you expect him to condemn the atrocities caused by the UFF/UDA and British Army during the troubles? Asking someone to try and 'pick sides' regarding NI is stupid and futile.

I quite like that photo of Corbyn with Gerry Adams and McGuinness - it strikes me as an open-minded person who's willing to have a coffee and a chat with fellow politicians, is that a crime?

However my general concern/issue with Corbyn (which I guess is in line with the general point of that Telegraph article) is that he does seem to have a worrying soft spot for international dictators who have been complicit and guilty of awful crimes and atrocities (Gaddafi, Chavez, Putin, Castro et al).

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/james-bloodworth-left-wing-case-against-comrade-jeremy-corbyn-1513969
 
Pubey said:
Would you expect him to condemn the atrocities caused by the UFF/UDA and British Army during the troubles? Asking someone to try and 'pick sides' regarding NI is stupid and futile.

I quite like that photo of Corbyn with Gerry Adams and McGuinness - it strikes me as an open-minded person who's willing to have a coffee and a chat with fellow politicians, is that a crime?

However my general concern/issue with Corbyn (which I guess is in line with the general point of that Telegraph article) is that he does seem to have a worrying soft spot for international dictators who have been complicit and guilty of awful crimes and atrocities (Gaddafi, Chavez, Putin, Castro et al).

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/james-bloodworth-left-wing-case-against-comrade-jeremy-corbyn-1513969
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Was that the photo from last week that gave you the feeling of open mindedness or the one taken a few weeks after the Brighton Bombings?
 
Genial Harry Grout said:
Was that the photo from last week that gave you the feeling of open mindedness or the one taken a few weeks after the Brighton Bombings?
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I don't have much time for Adams and McGuinness. However having conversations with them seems a sensible idea on many levels. Why is a photograph of Corbyn with them automatically a bad thing?

Also, why did you not respond to the rest of my post, which in many ways agreed with you?

The Brighton Bomb was on the day I was born so have always had an interest in knowing more about that day. I haven't seen the pic that you mention so feel free to post a link.

You don't see photos of Cameron, Miliband, Osborne, Cooper, Clegg etc with Adams because 'it's bad publicity' - which to me seems a strange way to decide whether or not to speak to someone. A major requirement of being PM is being able to discuss issues with people you don't agree with.

Corbyn is in complete contrast to the current system of modern image-based politics, which is half of his appeal.
 
Sorry Pubey but I am a bit of a lefty (in the liking of socialist ideas and betterment of the average working persons) BUT JC is a prize knob of a champagne socialist, with ideas straight from 1950 Russia and his manifesto is a 1970s joke that could have been written by a British Leyland shop steward as it would do to the UK the same as happened to that company.
 
Massimo Giovanni said:
Sorry Pubey but I am a bit of a lefty (in the liking of socialist ideas and betterment of the average working persons) BUT JC is a prize knob of a champagne socialist, with ideas straight from 1950 Russia and his manifesto is a 1970s joke that could have been written by a British Leyland shop steward as it would do to the UK the same as happened to that company.
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I don't think I've ever said that I support Corbyn or all of his views.

Some of his proposed policies I like. Many I don't. I like that he's asking questions of the Labour Party and I like that he's very different to Blair, Brown and Cameron.
 
Pubey said:
I don't think I've ever said that I support Corbyn or all of his views.

Some of his proposed policies I like. Many I don't. I like that he's asking questions of the Labour Party and I like that he's very different to Blair, Brown and Cameron.
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All he will do is make Labour un-electable and unable to function as an effective opposition; in short him being elected would be a Tory dream.
 
Massimo Giovanni said:
All he will do is make Labour un-electable and unable to function as an effective opposition; in short him being elected would be a Tory dream.
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Not only a Tory dream but also the preferred candidate of all those left-wingers, (both inside and outside Labour), who had largely given up hope that the party would ever again elect a genuine left-winger as its leader.

Most political commentators concluded after two consecutive G/E defeats that Labour had no real chance even in 2020.

JC at least offers hope that Labour is still a left-wing party.
 
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