Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[rigsby]

Why stupid that Labour stood ? Its more stupid that Tories and UKIP did not stand, maybe they were scared of the result, whereas Labour put them on the front line.
Give me a party that stands by its principles as JC does and not a puppet show
Like Cameroon in last GE debate, who would not go on certain TV programmes which showed him in bad light or up against Bojo, Labour for all their faults stood and fought alas not to everyones appeal, but they were there and not hiding behind others faults
ZG I admire for his stance but not his views, and lets be honest he thought he was going to win, so it was a good job Lib -dem did not have that approach as polls forecast at the beginning was a ZG win

UTS

Looks like the rest of the world agrees with you, that's why we have Brexit and Trump :winking:

Shame old JC switched sides on the biggest political decision of his life, after being anti-EU for 40 years.

 

[EastStandBlue]

I mean look at the Edstone utterly barking mad....

Yeah, this Tory party would never even dream of coming out with some utterly futile, meaningless PR guff just to drive home a point, would it?

 

[mrsblue]

Yeah, this Tory party would never even dream of coming out with some utterly futile, meaningless PR guff just to drive home a point, would it?

Who cares i never voted Tory,just saying.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Shouldn't you be posting this on a Conservative thread?

It's the likes of Anna Soubry and the 40 Tories, emboldened by a Lib Dem by-election victory (in which Labour stupidly contested but fortunately lost their deposit), who were going to rebel who are the opposition and who forced the u-turn.

If anything the fact that the government has only u-turned 24 times is a pretty damning statistic on Labour's opposition given how inept and directionless May is.

Could have gone on the Conservative thread but it takes two to tango and no-one looks at the Conservative thread as I'm not aware of anyone actually confessing to support them, those on the right of this forum tend to stick up for the Tories / UKIP / Trump but then not want to be directly associated with them (apart from Rusty of course).

I'm aware of Anna Soubry voting against the government on this one subject but not the other u-turns. But glad to have Tory infighting if its on offer.

25 or more forced u-turns would be nicer than 24 but the government has a majority in Parliament so every time they are stopped in their tracks is a victory for the opposition.

Personally getting Zac out of Parliament was the no 1 aim but the Labour Party are aware that many people hold the Coalition years against the LibDems so didn't want to be seen to back their candidate, but were aware most Labour voters would vote tactically.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Looks like the rest of the world agrees with you, that's why we have Brexit and Trump :winking:

Shame old JC switched sides on the biggest political decision of his life, after being anti-EU for 40 years.

Cameron switched, Johnson switched, Corbyn switched - broadly speaking. Been done to death the reasons why each of them chose which way to go.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I think the electorate have witnessed how potty the LP truly are and have no intention of voting for them.

I mean look at the Edstone utterly barking mad....JC will never be in power simply because he will never obtain the votes.

Labour are finished as the second party,I can see UKIP nicking the second spot.

Ed was the last guy.
If you keep an eye on votes cast rather than opinion polls of a thousand people you will see that UKIPs vote in Parliamentary and Council elections is down over pretty much the entire country. Add to that their new leader struggles to get 10% of the vote when standing in his home town (in the working class north he claims to be taking) and the fact that the party will go bankrupt unless their sugar daddy injects large funds again - your second party prediction looks to be lacking in any evidence.

And yes the opinion polls are not in Labour's favour by 4 parliamentary by-elections and 2 mayoral elections have seen Labour wins and that is worth more than asking a thousand people who they 'would' vote for 'if' there were an election.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I think the electorate have witnessed how potty the LP truly are and have no intention of voting for them.

I mean look at the Edstone utterly barking mad....JC will never be in power simply because he will never obtain the votes.

Labour are finished as the second party,I can see UKIP nicking the second spot.

Dream on.UKIP will most likely get "second spot" in a number of constituencies in the next G/E.Not in terms of seats though.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Could have gone on the Conservative thread but it takes two to tango and no-one looks at the Conservative thread as I'm not aware of anyone actually confessing to support them, those on the right of this forum tend to stick up for the Tories / UKIP / Trump but then not want to be directly associated with them (apart from Rusty of course).

I'm aware of Anna Soubry voting against the government on this one subject but not the other u-turns. But glad to have Tory infighting if its on offer.

25 or more forced u-turns would be nicer than 24 but the government has a majority in Parliament so every time they are stopped in their tracks is a victory for the opposition.

Personally getting Zac out of Parliament was the no 1 aim but the Labour Party are aware that many people hold the Coalition years against the LibDems so didn't want to be seen to back their candidate, but were aware most Labour voters would vote tactically.

Who I vote for is nothing to do with you. I'm capable of deciding who merits my vote when the time comes. However, you can rest assured I won't be voting for any IRA sympathisers, supporters of Middle Eastern terrorism or those who hold anti semite views. Hope that's clear enough for you.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

*** lives in a world where everything and everyone are really happy,he sees Jezza as the messiah,he wants Britain to become multi national where white folk are viewed as evil:winking:

The term is multicultural but don't worry as I don't think anyone noticed.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Who I vote for is nothing to do with you. I'm capable of deciding who merits my vote when the time comes. However, you can rest assured I won't be voting for any IRA sympathisers, supporters of Middle Eastern terrorism or those who hold anti semite views. Hope that's clear enough for you.

Did I even reply to you? Nope, so woah back on your 'I'm all offended' shtick. Jeez!!

 

[MK Shrimper]

As he just voted for a hard Brexit, Corbyn can kiss my arse goodbye. 1 less Labour supporter.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

As he just voted for a hard Brexit, Corbyn can kiss my arse goodbye. 1 less Labour supporter.

That must leave about 7?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

As he just voted for a hard Brexit, Corbyn can kiss my arse goodbye. 1 less Labour supporter.

That's not really what has happened.

The timetable to leave the EU has been agreed in principle (which due to the referendum result Labour would need to agree to soon) in exchange for the government revealing 'the plan'. As May up until now thought 'Brexit means Brexit' was all that needed to be said this should be a big breakthrough.


The agreement today gives no indication of the type of exit being planned and is not agreement to it. And that was the point, the opposition parties couldn't agree or disagree to May's 'plan' as there wasn't one. We've essentially just spent 6 months waiting for her to think one up. And with this agreement it will now be revealed and scrutinised.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38243500

 

[callan]

As he just voted for a hard Brexit, Corbyn can kiss my arse goodbye. 1 less Labour supporter.

Given his half arsed support for remain prior to the referendum are you surprised?

It's not Corbyns fault he keeps getting elected leader!

The truth is Labour were / are between a rock and a hard place.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

That's not really what has happened.

The timetable to leave the EU has been agreed in principle (which due to the referendum result Labour would need to agree to soon) in exchange for the government revealing 'the plan'. As May up until now thought 'Brexit means Brexit' was all that needed to be said this should be a big breakthrough.


The agreement today gives no indication of the type of exit being planned and is not agreement to it. And that was the point, the opposition parties couldn't agree or disagree to May's 'plan' as there wasn't one. We've essentially just spent 6 months waiting for her to think one up. And with this agreement it will now be revealed and scrutinised.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38243500

You're so bitter and delusional, the salt from your tears could season the enormous chip on your shoulder. I can't wait to see the despair of the left when the Trumpenfuhrer begins the true thousand year Reich.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

You're so bitter and delusional, the salt from your tears could season the enormous chip on your shoulder. I can't wait to see the despair of the left when the Trumpenfuhrer begins the true thousand year Reich.

so by backing 2 motions passed in Parliament - conciliatory, across the board agreement and compromise - that makes me bitter and delusional? That's an interesting conclusion and I'd be interested in how you reached it.

 

[callan]

Bit of a meltdown on the comments section at the Guardian....here are some of my favourites....

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...xit-plan-after-mps-vote-to-trigger-article-50

pontaumur 14m ago


what is the point of Labour? I have no idea and neither to they it would seem.


MajorJSpear 16m ago


Remainer in chief 'Tim Tiddles Farron' is having a melt down tonight.

He's now howling on social media 'Its not fair' and it's a 'stitch up'.

Can someone point out to 'Tiddles' that only 5 Lib Dems voted against the government..including himself and Cleggy. The other 4 Lib Dems didnt even bother to show??

So Tim what were you saying? Sometging about a 'fightback'??

Lol lol...shortist political fightback EVER?

000a000 18m ago


Yes but remember remain won Richmond.

Lynn Anderson 19m ago

Labour have unwittingly signed their death warrant.

kyliebarroka 24m ago


I really don't get Labour at all. 20 years licking big money's arse got them where they are today. Six months ******* Brexit will mean extinction. Look at Richmond, look at Scotland, look at the big cities. Get a grip and grow a pair. Voting with Farage, May, Boris & Murdoch is not socialism.

LouisConn 34m ago

In all fairness to Corbyn, this isn't exactly terra incognito. He has previously voted around 580 times with the Tories.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

so by backing 2 motions passed in Parliament - conciliatory, across the board agreement and compromise - that makes me bitter and delusional? That's an interesting conclusion and I'd be interested in how you reached it.

You're a big guy

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

You're a big guy

If your last two posts have been satire I don't think you have quite got the hang of it.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

If your last two posts have been satire I don't think you have quite got the hang of it.

That would be extremely painful