Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[rigsby]

Get over yourself, you're no working class hero. If the ex-Labour supporters believe that tying their fate to UKIP and exiting the EU will somehow drag industry back to this country than they're sadly deluded. Those days are long gone. I didn't sneer at anyone, i just used that town as a random working class Northern town. They've been lied to, cheated and beguiled by Murdoch and Farage.

Amazing how Liverpool voted to Remain....maybe it's due to the fact that The Sun doesn't sell many copies up there?

Just can't help yourself can you. The spiteful sneering little leftie in you will all ways take over, if people don't agree with you.

I'm amazed how similar you all are. Tell me is there a special course I can attend.

Besides I'm more a Paper Back Writer than a Working Class Hero.

 

[callan]

Get over yourself, you're no working class hero. If the ex-Labour supporters believe that tying their fate to UKIP and exiting the EU will somehow drag industry back to this country than they're sadly deluded. Those days are long gone. I didn't sneer at anyone, i just used that town as a random working class Northern town. They've been lied to, cheated and beguiled by Murdoch and Farage.

Amazing how Liverpool voted to Remain....maybe it's due to the fact that The Sun doesn't sell many copies up there?

Whatever way you want to spin this, there is an ever growing gulf opening up between Labour and it's core vote.

The answer is not to insult them by accusing them of falling for media and political lies.

Industry has been disappearing from the UK ever since I can remember and being inside the EU has not changed that.

Globalization for many in the lower skills sector has not meant prosperity and growth, but fear and uncertainty...did they really have that much to lose by voting to leave?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The rule book, as I understand it, is fairly simple.Either JC resigns or the PLP has to put up a candidate against him with 51 votes from their fellow MP's.This would trigger a leadership election but given JC's enormous support outside the PLP but in the wider Labour movement,he'd win easily.QED:

 

[Benfleet A1]

The rule book, as I understand it, is fairly simple.Either JC resigns or the PLP has to put up a candidate against him with 51 votes from their fellow MP's.This would trigger a leadership election but given JC's enormous support outside the PLP but in the wider Labour movement,he'd win easily.QED:

Then Labour are doomed.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Sadly it'll be back to right vs slightly right politics. There seems little room for the left in today's political landscape.

The left dominates today's political landscape. There is no mainstream party in either the UK or the US that is truly right-wing. There is no challenge to multiculturalism, the welfare state, the green agenda, gay rights, or any of the other 'progressive' bailiwicks that have fundamentally changed Western society over the last few decades.The left has managed to monopolize the culture, so that the default setting is profoundly left of centre. So much so that a spineless Tory wet like Cameron can be described as right-wing and a raving socialist loon like Obama is regarded as a centrist.

 

[superblue24]

Angela Eagle to stand in opposition to the leadership..... Another leader with no leadership skills and another one to the list of "annoying left wing women"

I'd love to have thrown Warren Mitchell in parliament to shake things up!!! "Shad Up you stupid old caaa!!!"

 

[South Bank Hank]

You sound dead posh you do, do you have a degree:winking:

Yeah, sorry about that. Not sure what happened. Something about the Titanic and the band going down with it that made me think I was writing a post some time around 1912! What I meant was Boaty Mcboatface is going down and Corbyn's gonna get wet.

:smile:

 

[Supernaut]

What I meant was Boaty Mcboatface is going down and Corbyn's gonna get wet.

:smile:

Corbyn's got **** on his shoes and Eagle's the shoe-shine gal.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Corbyn's got **** on his shoes and Eagle's the shoe-shine gal.

[video=youtube;0jk7UPS1dzw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jk7UPS1dzw[/video]

Forgive me, but you've got **** shoes, you ****** shoed *******.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

[video=youtube;0jk7UPS1dzw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jk7UPS1dzw[/video]

Forgive me, but you've got **** shoes, you ****** shoed *******.

rather scary but I was going to post up the very same link

I met Mr Coogan when he was out campaigning for Labour at the last GE - if I had known you were a fan I would have passed on your best wishes

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

what is getting missed off the report's of what Cameron said is that even though it is in the Conservative party's interest that he stays, it is in the country's interest that he resigns.

i am sick and bloody tired that for the last 9 years we only ever seem to want to do what is in the Tory's party's best interest.

Corbyn is a disaster for anyone Labour and the best thing that's ever happened to the Tories, UKIP, Lib Dems etc etc.

if he stays or gets re elected there won't be a Labour party left for him to 'lead'

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

what is getting missed off the report's of what Cameron said is that even though it is in the Conservative party's interest that he stays, it is in the country's interest that he resigns.

i am sick and bloody tired that for the last 9 years we only ever seem to want to do what is in the Tory's party's best interest.

Corbyn is a disaster for anyone Labour and the best thing that's ever happened to the Tories, UKIP, Lib Dems etc etc.

if he stays or gets re elected there won't be a Labour party left for him to 'lead'

What Cameron said has no relevance to me personally other than the fact that he has seemingly failed to register his own performance and still thinks he can act like an arrogant prick.
Pretty much everything else is up in the air and the only constant is Cameron still having the audacity to talk down to people at a time when he is the king **** up.

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

What Cameron said has no relevance to me personally other than the fact that he has seemingly failed to register his own performance and still thinks he can act like an arrogant prick.
Pretty much everything else is up in the air and the only constant is Cameron still having the audacity to talk down to people at a time when he is the king **** up.

he is right though. the longer Corbyn stays, the better it is for the Tory party. and worse for the contry

 

[Supernaut]

The peasants are revolting...

From www.bbc.co.uk;

Angela Eagle looks set to launch a bid for the Labour leadership after Jeremy Corbyn rejected pleas to stand down.

The former shadow minister has been MP for Wallasey on Merseyside since 1992, but following her vote of no confidence in Corbyn and her shadow cabinet resignation, a petition has been launched by her constituents.

It states: "We wish Angela Eagle to resign as MP of Wallasey, as she does not represent our constituents views and our wishes. She should have supported Corbyn, not resigned. Keep Corbyn. Eagle Resign."

 

[dloman]

Strangely I am starting to warm to Corbyn, obviously not his policies or some of the company he keeps, but more towards him as a person. Now I don't believe he has a cat in hells chance of ever winning a GE but some of his own MP's need to take a long hard look at themselves as they are also making the party unelectable in their safer seats.

 

[londonblue]

Strangely I am starting to warm to Corbyn, obviously not his policies or some of the company he keeps, but more towards him as a person. Now I don't believe he has a cat in hells chance of ever winning a GE but some of his own MP's need to take a long hard look at themselves as they are also making the party unelectable in their safer seats.

I'd say it was Corduroy that was making the party un-electable. The PLP are trying to undo the damage. The problem is that the way the Labour leader is voted in now makes it almost impossible for anyone else to win, at least whilst the membership continues to be hijacked by Momentum.

What I don't get though, it why these Momentum supporters didn't start their own party rather than hijack an already existing one. I even have a name for their new party. How about Socialist Worker?

 

[dloman]

I'd say it was Corduroy that was making the party un-electable. The PLP are trying to undo the damage. The problem is that the way the Labour leader is voted in now makes it almost impossible for anyone else to win, at least whilst the membership continues to be hijacked by Momentum.

What I don't get though, it why these Momentum supporters didn't start their own party rather than hijack an already existing one. I even have a name for their new party. How about Socialist Worker?

Oh I agree entirely, but they are probably making it even worse now as he is getting more and more sympathy and will win
the nomination once again if he stands. On the other point doesn't the SLP already exist? (Socialist Labour Party) sure I have seen it.

 

[londonblue]

Oh I agree entirely, but they are probably making it even worse now as he is getting more and more sympathy and will win
the nomination once again if he stands. On the other point doesn't the SLP already exist? (Socialist Labour Party) sure I have seen it.

Sorry my mistake. :winking:

 

[Supernaut]

The peasants are revolting...

From www.bbc.co.uk;

Angela Eagle looks set to launch a bid for the Labour leadership after Jeremy Corbyn rejected pleas to stand down.

The former shadow minister has been MP for Wallasey on Merseyside since 1992, but following her vote of no confidence in Corbyn and her shadow cabinet resignation, a petition has been launched by her constituents.

It states: "We wish Angela Eagle to resign as MP of Wallasey, as she does not represent our constituents views and our wishes. She should have supported Corbyn, not resigned. Keep Corbyn. Eagle Resign."

And Eagle has now delayed her challenge which was due to be made at 3pm.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

he is right though. the longer Corbyn stays, the better it is for the Tory party. and worse for the contry

My issue is with him saying it and the manner in which he said it. At a time where there is a good case to declare Cameron as the most ineffective PM in living memory he has the audacity to think he gets a say in who leads the opposition. That is pure Eton privilege mentality right there. His sense of entitlement appals me.