Dale farm evictions "may breach human rights"

[The Big Dady]

Anyone can sign the Government epetiton 'Illegal occupation of land with a caravan to change from a civil to a criminal offence' so that honest taxpayers can have the same protection as in the Irish Republic and so ensure this stupidity does not happen again”

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1309

 

[steveo]

Anyone can sign the Government epetiton 'Illegal occupation of land with a caravan to change from a civil to a criminal offence' so that honest taxpayers can have the same protection as in the Irish Republic and so ensure this stupidity does not happen again”

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1309

Signed. Lets hope Barna sees this post so he can sign it too.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

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Signed. Lets hope Barna sees this post so he can sign it too.

Ha!That'll be the day.:net:

 

[Bielzibubz]

Signed, although I have a feeling this will drag on for months and months to come as the bleeding heart liberals really get their teeth stuck in to this one even more than they already have. As much as I love this country it is becoming more and more of a lughing stock with it's laughable judicial system and pandering to the Gaudian reading human rights do gooders.

 

[Boreham Shrimper]

Signed.

Also, does anybody know of a "celebrity" (Z list or otherwise) who has publicly campaigned for the rights of the silent law abiding majority, rather than the freeloaders?

 

[osymandus]

Anyone can sign the Government epetiton 'Illegal occupation of land with a caravan to change from a civil to a criminal offence' so that honest taxpayers can have the same protection as in the Irish Republic and so ensure this stupidity does not happen again”

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1309

As the residents pointed out today and as have a few others the council already had teh power to resolve this 10 YEARS ago but dragged their feet and wasted all your money.

 

[pickledseal]

As the residents pointed out today and as have a few others the council already had teh power to resolve this 10 YEARS ago but dragged their feet and wasted all your money.

With so much money involved surely the Baz legal team anticipated every possible legal challenge? I'm no legal bod but given the nature of this you would have thought so? Of course the travellers were going to try every legal route possible... wouldn't you?

Seems this has been one massive fail and the longer it goes on the more likely it is they will get to stay I'd imagine, cue residents claiming against the council for all kinds of things.

 

[canveyshrimper]

With so much money involved surely the Baz legal team anticipated every possible legal challenge? I'm no legal bod but given the nature of this you would have thought so? Of course the travellers were going to try every legal route possible... wouldn't you?

Seems this has been one massive fail and the longer it goes on the more likely it is they will get to stay I'd imagine, cue residents claiming against the council for all kinds of things.

I'm interested to know who is paying the inert travellers legal fees, I'd wager it's the UK tax payer. I can't think there's another benevolent benefactor.

 

[pickledseal]

I'm interested to know who is paying the inert travellers legal fees, I'd wager it's the UK tax payer. I can't think there's another benevolent benefactor.

They have been asking for donations to help pay for legal battles, but as we know visits to the High Court aren't cheap. I've no idea how legal aid works, do you get it automatically if registered as unemployed or low income?

 

[steveo]

As the residents pointed out today and as have a few others the council already had teh power to resolve this 10 YEARS ago but dragged their feet and wasted all your money.

Blimey Osy, you back from Dale Farm already?

 

[OldBlueLady]

I'm interested to know who is paying the inert travellers legal fees, I'd wager it's the UK tax payer. I can't think there's another benevolent benefactor.

Almost definitely going to be Legal Aid isn't it? You know, that source in paying legal fees that's supposed to help those who can't afford to help themselves, rather than those who hide property and claim benefits falsely. All these people are doing now is creating further division between themselves and those law abiding tax paying neighbours across the locality. That idiot of a judge has got a lot to answer for, and will have more to come if I'm a judge of people's moods.

 

[OldBlueLady]

They have been asking for donations to help pay for legal battles, but as we know visits to the High Court aren't cheap. I've no idea how legal aid works, do you get it automatically if registered as unemployed or low income?

Can tell you from experience, the answer to that is no, there are qualifying criteria.

 

[Shrimper]

As the residents pointed out today and as have a few others the council already had teh power to resolve this 10 YEARS ago but dragged their feet and wasted all your money.

It's not entirely the councils fault that it's dragged on this long. The travellers have put out numerous injuctions with the courts seem only to happy to accept, nothing the council can do there other than try to win the case, but as this country is pro-human rights they won't.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

They have been asking for donations to help pay for legal battles, but as we know visits to the High Court aren't cheap. I've no idea how legal aid works, do you get it automatically if registered as unemployed or low income?

Can tell you from experience, the answer to that is no, there are qualifying criteria.

I'm afraid to say(also from personal experience)that OBL is quite right.

 

[canveyshrimper]

They have been asking for donations to help pay for legal battles, but as we know visits to the High Court aren't cheap. I've no idea how legal aid works, do you get it automatically if registered as unemployed or low income?

Short answer is I don't know, I am sure a few of our legal eagles could enlighten us. I'm baffled as to how we should be paying an army of Irish tinkers various benefits. One of the benefits of the EU and human rights legislation.

 

[pickledseal]

I'm guessing the judge does have a legitimate reason at this late stage to delay things? I know they 'judge' so there is some interpretation, but also surely there is sound legal grounds?

Also I don't think most of you, as you claim, really have issues with the human rights act do you? Surely it's interpretation you have a prob with? I think the UDHR is one of the most important documents in the world.

 

[canveyshrimper]

I'm guessing the judge does have a legitimate reason at this late stage to delay things? I know they 'judge' so there is some interpretation, but also surely there is sound legal grounds?

Also I don't think most of you, as you claim, really have issues with the human rights act do you? Surely it's interpretation you have a prob with? I think the UDHR is one of the most important documents in the world.

There's not much wromg with the UN Convention on Human Rights which we signed up for in 1951 (I think). However the EU version that Blair signed us up for in 1997 is seemingly flawed and perverse. And it seems loaded in favour of the law breaker rather than the victim of a crime. There's the story in todays paper of the accomplice in the 21/7 bombings, he's served his albeit light senence and is walking the streets. He's a Somali national who obviously hates Britain in particular and the West in general, but we can't deport the **** to Somalia.

One of the finest tenets of the British way of life is our basic common sense which is being increasingly stolenfrom us.

 

[steveo]

To most people the human rights act appears to allow people who have broken the law to get special treatment and it appears to be largely supported by left wing do gooders.

 

[pickledseal]

There's not much wromg with the UN Convention on Human Rights which we signed up for in 1951 (I think). However the EU version that Blair signed us up for in 1997 is seemingly flawed and perverse. And it seems loaded in favour of the law breaker rather than the victim of a crime. There's the story in todays paper of the accomplice in the 21/7 bombings, he's served his albeit light senence and is walking the streets. He's a Somali national who obviously hates Britain in particular and the West in general, but we can't deport the **** to Somalia.

One of the finest tenets of the British way of life is our basic common sense which is being increasingly stolenfrom us.

Yeah I've never understood why the EU in the 50's needed their own version... and also why the one we signed up to in 1998/2000 made things so radically different.

I remember Billy Bragg talking a few years back about it would be great to have a very clear point of reference for UK citizens. He said something along the lines of the Bill of Rights in the US (which isn't perfect!). It's a bit like all the students at my school have to carry in their pocket the school mission statement/code of conduct and at times staff ask them to take it out and read it if they have been poorly behaved. It's a very clear point if reference.

 

[pickledseal]

One of the finest tenets of the British way of life is our basic common sense which is being increasingly stolenfrom us.

Unfortunately common sense is too subjective... It's also increasingly lacking in some members of younger generations.