Coronavirus (Non-Politics)

[RHB]

Of course, I can’t excuse those people who have gone OTT. That’s just downright selfish and wrong. Nobody needs a years-worth of toilet paper, or half-a-tonne of baked beans.

Yeah, but that's cause and effect in action.

 

[rigsby]

There is growing suspicion that China might not be reporting truthfully
SHOCKER!

There is growing suspicion that the panic and fear is completely manufactured.

We will be safe in Britain because even Novichock can't kill us. Well only one person out of 6 died and that is he most deadly nerve agent in the world. Designed to kill soldiers in minutes even if they have so much as hair line crack in the full chemical suites.

As we are always told, you can't trust the Russians or the Chinese but God bless America.

 

[ESG]

Email from British Airways saying they have already cancelled my flight to Tampa, which is not until the 3rd May

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I agree in the main. But I don’t think there’s been a great level of communication, from the Government to us, specifically regarding the panic buying issue.

How much extra panic, has the rumours that over 70’s could be forced to isolate, caused? How many more people will be racing to supermarkets now, to stock up on stuff for their elderly family members?

So far, I’d say the Goverment has handled this badly, on the whole.

Schools still open. Flights continued coming in from quarantined areas. Even on Thursday, Boris said the football would continue, when most people could see that there wasn’t any realistic chance of that actually happening.

These are the people we’re forced to wait on, for help and advice? Is it any wonder that sane people have gone mad?

Of course, I can’t excuse those people who have gone OTT. That’s just downright selfish and wrong. Nobody needs a years-worth of toilet paper, or half-a-tonne of baked beans.

You’ve made a few points there so I’ll give you my take on them if that’s okay.
Panic buying - not necessary, don’t do it there’s plenty of supply. What else does government say?
Over 70’s - no one repeat no one ever said forced. 35 have died so far in UK, all but one have been over 60 and most in their 70’s and 80’s. The one was a fella late 50’s suffering underlying heath issues. The evidence is very clear which age groups are at risk. The advice as I see it is when the time comes i.e. the peak of outbreaks (weeks away by the way) prepare to isolate away from the wider public to protect yourself. The health services will not cope with thousands, tens of thousands of patients in one hit, no health service in world could. Staggering the issue over months has to be the way to go.
Schools/Flights - widely covered but put short, who looks after the kids? A lot has been said about testing at airports, from what I’ve listened to on the radio, if you’re not showing symptoms then the test is likely to be negative even if you’re carrying so it’s pretty pointless and waste of time and money.
As for selfish profiteering vermin emptying supermarket shelves of essentials including baby milk, nappies, toilet roll and tinned food.
When your supermarket has sold out only for your local store to be fully stocked. Perhaps you should make a mental note never shop with them again.

 

[blues exile]

Here in Latvia, 30 confirmed cases as I write, mostly returnees from a skiing holiday in Italy, with no fatalities as yet. However, no flights in or out of the country until April 14, likewise trains and buses, only private cars allowed in and out, so country in complete lockdown as from midnight tonight, apart from food supplies allowed in. Government admirably quick in taking action and communicating it well, as is the case with the other Baltic republics. No panic buying in the shops.

 

[fatshrimp]

Email from British Airways saying they have already cancelled my flight to Tampa, which is not until the 3rd May

interestingly, they wrote to me today confirming that mine to Texas on 2nd April is still scheduled to fly! How does that work..?

 

[Blueronron]

interestingly, they wrote to me today confirming that mine to Texas on 2nd April is still scheduled to fly! How does that work..?

Your more expendable ?

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Dear oh dear. I wish they would bring on experts on the TV and radio that live in our world. So just like the MP the other day that held up a hand gel and advised that every person should be carrying one of these around with them, as he held one up(He obviously doesn't do shopping himself, and his P.A. probably bought some online at silly prices). So today an expert said if the over 70s self isolate, they should set up video links online, or on their mobile, to keep in contact with people and in case of emergencies. She said they should also set up an account with the supermarkets to order online and get food delivered. Now the trouble with this is that I have never personally seen many over 70s that can do that sort of thing. I have dealt with over 20 over the past 5 years, and only one had a laptop, computer, or a modern mobile phone. They couldn't handle modern technology. Of course there will be many out there that do have a laptop, or/and modern mobile, and are very savvy and capable, but in general, most don't even have WiFi.
Just seen a figure that in the U.K., 4.2 Million over 65s, have never used the internet.

 

[Jim Levenstein]

As said on another thread.. personally I think football season is finished. Highly doubt they will start playing games again whilst the number of cases are going up and up. Every chance we could still be in League 1 next season lol

 

[GBJ]

You’ve made a few points there so I’ll give you my take on them if that’s okay.Panic buying - not necessary, don’t do it there’s plenty of supply.

I agree and FWIW, I’m not defending those people who have been out panic buying. They have absolutely made this situation worse.

If everyone remained calm, and continued to buy their goods at an ordinary rate, then there is no problem now, or in the future.

But as I said, people are scared. And when people get scared, they panic & make rash decisions. Selfish decisions.

We know what it’s like at Christmas when the shop shuts for a single day.

That’s why I said, if there was better communication between the Goverment, the supermarkets and us, the consumers, then maybe this could have been avoided, although I doubt it.

What there needs to be right now, and for moving forward, is a clear and concise message, detailing the continued operational plan for those supermarkets. So far, there hasn’t been one.

What else does government say? Over 70’s - no one repeat no one ever said forced. 35 have died so far in UK, all but one have been over 60 and most in their 70’s and 80’s. The one was a fella late 50’s suffering underlying heath issues. The evidence is very clear which age groups are at risk. The advice as I see it is when the time comes i.e. the peak of outbreaks (weeks away by the way) prepare to isolate away from the wider public to protect yourself. The health services will not cope with thousands, tens of thousands of patients in one hit, no health service in world could. Staggering the issue over months has to be the way to go.

The problem is mate, that I think you’re approaching it from a logical & rational view point, whereas this panic is based on emotion, so it’s impossible to reason with it. I agree with what you’ve said there, though.

The trouble is, not everyone will do. And for some, it’s understandable.

I work with a guy who is 74. He has to work, lives month-to-month on his wages, and has very little savings. He’s worried that If he is told to go home by our bosses, he risks losing his job, and therefore his rented accommodation..... nevermind how he’ll be able to afford food supplies in a couple of months.

How many people in their 70’s will fall into that category?

Fortunately, I don’t have any family members in that age bracket, but I can understand why people might get a little nervous at that news.

Again, if there was a detailed plan laid out for all to see, regarding the supermarkets, then his could potentially be avoided.

Schools/Flights - widely covered but put short, who looks after the kids

Fair point about schools. I don’t really have an answer. But if I had kids, I wouldn’t be sending them to school right now.

Am I making things worse? Maybe. But if im wrong, the worst case scenario is, the kids miss a bit of schooling. If the Government are wrong though....

A lot has been said about testing at airports, from what I’ve listened to on the radio, if you’re not showing symptoms then the test is likely to be negative even if you’re carrying so it’s pretty pointless and waste of time and money.

Yep, agree with the testing, but it could have been avoided, simply by telling people they need to be automatically quarantined, as soon as they stepped foot on British soil. Just as the Australians are doing now.

It can’t be right that people were landing here from quarantined areas, with high numbers of cases, but were allowed to go freely about their business.

I’d imagine it’s incalculable, but how much did/will the virus spread from that one mistake?

As for selfish profiteering vermin emptying supermarket shelves of essentials including baby milk, nappies, toilet roll and tinned food.
When your supermarket has sold out only for your local store to be fully stocked. Perhaps you should make a mental note never shop with them again.

Agreed.

I did a bit of shopping over the weekend, and no part of me felt compelled to pretend I was on Supermarket Sweep.

The only thing I did stock up on, was some beers. Other than that, I did a normal shop, which was short a few items. I haven’t felt the need to ration my stuff & I’ll probably go again next weekend, (as I do most weekends) and start again, as normal.

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod it was, that fixed my quotation **** up. Much obliged ??

 

[wakes123]

I imagine in a few weeks or months a vaccine will become available, those at risk will have the jab (thank god for the NHS), and sanity will be restored to the world.

My wife's friends daughter has serious asthma and has a trip to Italy coming up. She was told she'll be fine. Good old media, whipping us all up into like its the end of days.

This aged well.

 

[Cricko]

Print some of these off people if you have elderly neighbours who might need some help and you have time and pop them through their door. They are the ones that need our help atm.r

Yes I know it might be my turn next week. ?‍ ? x

Open them in "Word" and you can fit 2 to a page.

 

[wakes123]

This is a desperate situation. Good luck fellow Shrimpers.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I stand by it. The panic over this is ridiculous. The vast, vast majority of people who contract it will be ill for a few days and then recover - as I've previously stated those at risk need protection agreed, but people are acting like its the end of days. Every figure you see from scientists is the worst case scenario (8 million in hospital? Really? Bigging up your relevance Doc?), the press love to terrify everyone into submission.

You’re turning into Mrs Blue mate!

 

[wakes123]

I stand by it. The panic over this is ridiculous. The vast, vast majority of people who contract it will be ill for a few days and then recover - as I've previously stated those at risk need protection agreed, but people are acting like its the end of days. Every figure you see from scientists is the worst case scenario (8 million in hospital? Really? Bigging up your relevance Doc?), the press love to terrify everyone into submission.

I can't believe how laid back you are over this. The whole country of Italy is in lockdown (do you really think they would have taken that decision lightly, given the enormous ramifications that will cause)? This is unprecedented times and things will only get worse before they get better.

 

[tia]

I think with the Coronavirus the bigger long term problems maybe that people who are receiving treatment regular health checks etc for ongoing conditions like Cancer.heart issues diabetes etc may find their treatments care reduced while this is going on.And I know health is more important than money but loads of people are going be really hit by this.One of my neighbours runs a kennels and bookings are massively down as holidays are cancelled

 

[RHB]

interestingly, they wrote to me today confirming that mine to Texas on 2nd April is still scheduled to fly! How does that work..?

This is a bit of a wild guess, but it could look a bit like this

 

[Green Wizard]

Mass hysteria in action, but if I happen to contract it and pass it on I am sure I will be hung, drawn, quartered and shot at dawn. Will I feel guilty, yes as most of my family suffers from asthma. So what do I do? I am 71 and don't want to be quarantined, it's my body and don't need anybody to tell me what to do with it.

 

[Ricky Otto]

I really can’t take all the **** meme’s and jokes on social media anymore. If it’s not that it’s all the ‘experts’ who have an answer for the problem. I just want to know what Sarah is having for dinner and see a picture of Steve’s dog sleeping.

Sarah is having Pasta and Steve's dog is in the oven due to food shortages

 

[tia]

Mass hysteria in action, but if I happen to contract it and pass it on I am sure I will be hung, drawn, quartered and shot at dawn. Will I feel guilty, yes as most of my family suffers from asthma. So what do I do? I am 71 and don't want to be quarantined, it's my body and don't need anybody to tell me what to do with it.

Thing is with this isolation is it's not at all practical.A friend of my parents is 85 and would be classed as vulnerable as has had pneumonia couple years ago.She doesn't leave house much anyway but she lives with her son.He is a builder out meeting different people daily so if she is made to isolate at home seeks pointless If her son is coming in of a night risking passing it onto her