Coronavirus (Non-Politics)

[Member]

My question would be why a couple from the same household find it necessary that they shop together, make a larger cluster area together, walk around a shop isn't a form of exercise? Most shop aisles aren't 2 meters or much wider and not everyone goes one way so why?
Also surely one person can get several shopping lists if they are doing others tasks?

There'll be some families where an adult person (with a medical issue or learning difficulties) can't be left at home and therefore need to come along.

 

[South Bank Hank]

I would have thought that it's very difficult to comment on the handling of the situation in the UK (and elsewhere) without making what could be described by some as a "political" comment.

Quite, but also well within people's capabilities. Everyone knows that politics is off limits on this site due to the grief and disharmony it causes. Given that the Corona virus is EVERYTHING at the moment, we're simply asking people to steer away from political aspects of it. It's not actually THAT hard to do.

 

[rigsby]

Players to start training on the 16th May and games from 6th of June....Is the plan

 

[Special Blue]

Should ask them to leave, simple.

Don't worry they are and the security fellas don't mess about but that's not the point.
On the plus side shoplifting is non existent.

 

[Blue Yonder]

My question would be why a couple from the same household find it necessary that they shop together, make a larger cluster area together, walk around a shop isn't a form of exercise? Most shop aisles aren't 2 meters or much wider and not everyone goes one way so why?
Also surely one person can get several shopping lists if they are doing others tasks?

Maybe I am thick then. Thing is my wife and I have to shop together to carry all the toilet rolls and hand sanitiser back to the car. .... I am joking of course but I think there are a number of instances where two people would want to shop together not just for recreation. But hey.. lets think the worst of people.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

It is difficult to estimate to be honest as the directive coming out is saying if people are showing symptoms of Covid-19 then it can be included on the death certificate

would they be tested?

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

This is skewed though by the fact we’re doing twice as many tests so picking up more cases. We don’t have the faintest idea how many cases there are and it seems a pointless figure. The hospital admissions is the only one I have any confidence in and that is or at least was trending down.

I think the figure is hospital admissions

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Maybe I am thick then. Thing is my wife and I have to shop together to carry all the toilet rolls and hand sanitiser back to the car. .... I am joking of course but I think there are a number of instances where two people would want to shop together not just for recreation. But hey.. lets think the worst of people.

it’s not much to ask is it? Plenty of folk making bigger sacrifices than the weekly shopping walk around

 

[Chrisb]

My neighbour said that he was behind a lady in the supermarket queue today who works at Southend Hospital and she said the admissions were down and the number in ICU had dropped from 40 to 19 in the last few days. Hopefully that is true.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

My neighbour said that he was behind a lady in the supermarket queue today who works at Southend Hospital and she said the admissions were down and the number in ICU had dropped from 40 to 19 in the last few days. Hopefully that is true.

capacity looks like it’s held and I’ve read some NHS trusts are considering non essential operations again.
A&E being used for what it’s there for, emergencies and not for minor bumps and bruises.
Saw a figure of 350,000 000 owed to the NHS by health tourists taking advantage of a system never meant for them. It has to stop and at some point in near future some tough conversations need to be had.

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

My neighbour said that he was behind a lady in the supermarket queue today who works at Southend Hospital and she said the admissions were down and the number in ICU had dropped from 40 to 19 in the last few days. Hopefully that is true.

Just 15 patients the other day at the Nightingale Hospital in London. But it's main role is back up for the 2nd wave, which if we have less restrictions is an unknown quantity.

My daughter's amended student nursing curriculum is a 6 month to 2 year, long term plan.

 

[Leigh_Seasider]

would they be tested?

A friend’s mother got admitted to hospital, was on oxygen and got discharged 2 days later on a course of antibiotics. They had symptoms, they were tested and came back negative. However...they were told the tests aren’t 100% reliable and they still thought she’d had it. All seems very random and not sure who gets tested and at which point.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

ICU is for the treatment that can give results for those that might recover if put into an intensive care system. Most covid patients will either recover not needing hospital or if admitted then normal nursing will be efficient, or triaged will show that NO amount of treatment will work and an end of life nursing procedure is used. Either way ICU is often bypassed.
In the coming weeks Nightingale hospitals will get more patients transferred to them and hopefully regular hospital NHS work can resume at relieved hospitals.

 

[OldBlueLady]

My wife tells me that couples are queuing individually to get in supermakets(sometimes family) to get around single person rules.
Abandoning trollies once inside and meeting up!
Seriously how thick and stupid are some people?

Morrisons in Hadleigh has been letting couples or pairs in for the last week or so. No pretence about it - went on Friday, no queue, straight in, it was absolutely mobbed with no arrows or system until you had to queue for checkout. When I went last weekend, 3 of the 5 people in front of me were couples - a mother and daughter, two teenagers and a man with a woman - again, not stopped, no questions, just waved in. Plenty of complaints about it on the local community pages too.

 

[GBJ]

596 today. Sign that the worst is over?

Maybe for this round, but the virus isn’t going away.

Remember, the lockdown procedures weren’t put in place to kill the virus, they were to stop the numbers spiralling out of control in a short space of time.

We will still see a large number of people contracting & subsequently dying from it, over the coming months.

Just 15 patients the other day at the Nightingale Hospital in London. But it's main role is back up for the 2nd wave, which if we have less restrictions is an unknown quantity.

I’ve read that this inevitable second wave could be much worse.

It’s the very reason why we can’t get ahead of ourselves, and start thinking we’re past the worst of it.

Good luck to your daughter by the way.

 

[Blue Yonder]

I would have thought the risks of spreading the virus were obvious.

Perhaps I should clarify as I’ve mentioned in this thread before I (and my wife) contracted Covid 19 before the lockdown and have now recovered. We are part of the embryonic herd of the ‘herd immunity‘. With all the unknowns surrounding this virus we are not without risk to ourselves or others but overall the more people like us out in the community (or supermarket or wherever) the risk of infection is reduced not increased. So I’m not sure things are always obvious or self evident.

Whether we like it or not in the absence of a vaccine (there has never before been a vaccine for a human Coronavirus) herd immunity will be a way out of this mess and is part of the planning even if it’s plan B. In the meantime while we wait for a vaccine or the ‘herd’ to get big enough effort is being put into improving the outcome for victims of the virus and reducing the death rate. Either through re purposing existing drugs like hydroxychloroquine or new treatments like blood plasma transfusions which are to be trialled and for which the NHS is asking for blood donations from people like us who have recovered and hopefully have antibodies (we have registered to donate and if there is anyone else out there in the same position I can post a link to the NHS site).

In contrast to a lot of the outraged posting my overwhelming experience is that people have been incredibly respectful of each other and the rules and distancing.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Morrisons in Hadleigh has been letting couples or pairs in for the last week or so. No pretence about it - went on Friday, no queue, straight in, it was absolutely mobbed with no arrows or system until you had to queue for checkout. When I went last weekend, 3 of the 5 people in front of me were couples - a mother and daughter, two teenagers and a man with a woman - again, not stopped, no questions, just waved in. Plenty of complaints about it on the local community pages too.

Morrisons on Canvey has been much stricter.

 

[Blue Yonder]

it’s not much to ask is it? Plenty of folk making bigger sacrifices than the weekly shopping walk around

See earlier post. My wife and I have some Covid19 immunity therefore the rest of our family and some vulnerable people in our extended family stay at home and we shop for them and deliver to their houses. I would argue that overall this reduces the risk of spread of the virus rather than increasing it. Shopping in couples is allowed in our local supermarket anyway so no one seems to have a problem with it. It’s not often we shop together but if it’s a big shop for several households it’s a heck of a lot easier.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

See earlier post. My wife and I have some Covid19 immunity therefore the rest of our family and some vulnerable people in our extended family stay at home and we shop for them and deliver to their houses. I would argue that overall this reduces the risk of spread of the virus rather than increasing it. Shopping in couples is allowed in our local supermarket anyway so no one seems to have a problem with it. It’s not often we shop together but if it’s a big shop for several households it’s a heck of a lot easier.

I'm sorry to hear that both you and your wife have had the virus.There doesn't appear to be any evidence that you will have any long term immunity to a second wave of the virus though.

I'm fully aware, however, that if I catch a bad dose of the virus at my age (68), with an underlying medical condition (type 2 diabetes), like others I know in SOS (and elsewhere), that if I need to go on a ventilator,it'll probably kill me.

 

[GBJ]

See earlier post. My wife and I have some Covid19 immunity therefore the rest of our family and some vulnerable people in our extended family stay at home and we shop for them and deliver to their houses. I would argue that overall this reduces the risk of spread of the virus rather than increasing it. Shopping in couples is allowed in our local supermarket anyway so no one seems to have a problem with it. It’s not often we shop together but if it’s a big shop for several households it’s a heck of a lot easier.

Glad to hear you and the missus got through it, and are now ok.

I’ve seen various reports suggesting that those who catch this virus, aren’t necessarily guaranteed to build up the immunity against it, and there are reports out there, of the same people catching it twice.