Browns time must be up!

[onceknownasrab]

A cat has less lives than PB.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

There are 2 people who voted to replace me and John:- andygb42, Dubai, Hammer, Jam_Man, nevereatwhitesnow, OldWilliam, wily cayote,

who have also voted to keep Brown :-bertbert, Blueronron, Bolton Shrimper, Brett Angle, Colchester John, Dubai, dusterman, Kestrel, mike101, nevereatwhitesnow, Prague Blue, rararblue, rdc3, shrimper61, smudgster

A real win double. Take them out of the equation and it changes things a little.

I thought the saying was never eat yellow snow. If he can't even get his name right, then his votes are pretty pointless :smile:

 

[onceknownasrab]

I thought the saying was never eat yellow snow. If he can't even get his name right, then his votes are pretty pointless :smile:

Sadly he did sign his name in the snow and made it yellow but embarrassingly it wasn't in his handwriting.:cry:

 

[South Bank Hank]

"I wouldn’t have advocated sacking Nile Ranger"

ummm - what is he talking about now ?

"I wouldn't have advocated sacking Nile Ranger if I thought I was going to miss him" is a fuller quote.

Seriously? Rayleigh Boy, do you not understand the difference or was it just purposeful attempt to misquote someone?

I no longer believe that Phil Brown is the answer for this football club. But this is just another example of how ready some people have always been to push negative agendas simply because they don't like the man. It's been a shocking attitude from day one and Brown has achieved the success he has (yes, he has - even if it doesn't feel like it right now) despite 'support' like this.

Someone mentioned 'fake news' on this site a little while ago. Well there it is being created right there. I hate this part of our society so much.

 

[AndyT]

I wasn't going to post on this, but calling out people on the way they voted is bang out of order, IMHO.

Have your pointless poll, but don't question why people vote the way they do.

Jeez, what a train wreck this forum is at the moment!

Very sad to see. :thumbdown::sad:

 

[Andyhsufc]

Have been reading the different "Brown out" threads with interest and would just add a couple of observations:

1. A lot of people want Brown out but have been unable to come up with realistic and affordable replacements for him. If the players don't respect the current manager (if the rumours are true...) then why would they respect Tilson or Coughlan who have not got the same level of managerial experience as Brown has. Surely we will be going with an experienced currently out of work manager...

2. There are no first team players who are remotely irreplaceable so if they are not committed to the club and want to hand in transfer requests, I would say accept the request and let them go. The senior first teamers who are on the most money are the ones, in the main, who have let us down time and time again. To blame Brown solely is to let these experienced well paid professionals off the hook!

 

[McNasty]

I wasn't going to post on this, but calling out people on the way they voted is bang out of order, IMHO.

Have your pointless poll, but don't question why people vote the way they do.

Jeez, what a train wreck this forum is at the moment!

Very sad to see. :thumbdown::sad:

As the polls are public anyone can see how people voted.

This renders your comments completely wrong.

 

[RobM]

I wasn't going to post on this, but calling out people on the way they voted is bang out of order, IMHO.

Have your pointless poll, but don't question why people vote the way they do.

Jeez, what a train wreck this forum is at the moment!

Very sad to see. :thumbdown::sad:

It's like the club at the moment, sadly. I have been a supporter since 1966 and I feel this is one of the worst times - not the worst time for sure, though. It can't get much worse...can it?

 

[RobM]

Have been reading the different "Brown out" threads with interest and would just add a couple of observations:

1. A lot of people want Brown out but have been unable to come up with realistic and affordable replacements for him. If the players don't respect the current manager (if the rumours are true...) then why would they respect Tilson or Coughlan who have not got the same level of managerial experience as Brown has. Surely we will be going with an experienced currently out of work manager...

Tilson! Oh...hang on...

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Seriously? Rayleigh Boy, do you not understand the difference or was it just purposeful attempt to misquote someone?

Like most, I no longer believe that Brown is the answer for this football club. But this is just another example of how ready some people have been to promote a negative agenda simply because they don't like the man.

i have never been against Brown until wimbledon - but whats weird is how once you stop believing in what he doing it does suddenly look like a pathetic mess .

for me the way the thing with Ranger ended was a bit of a eye opener

 

[AndyT]

As the polls are public anyone can see how people voted.

This renders your comments completely wrong.

In fairness, Ken, the polls shouldn't divulge how people vote.

Likewise, there's a difference between people being able to see how people voted and actually listing them in a post, highlighting their names and then belittling them as posters.

We all know the agenda here. I, for one, do feel PB might well be best off put on gardening leave, as he is unlikely to get a new contract anyway, but people have a right to vote and have their opinion.

It's like a lynch mob mentality at the moment.

This place and it's many posters have made it one of the best supporter forums out there and kudos to everyone involved, but it's going downhill under this avalanche of anti-PB feeling. Just how I see it.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

anyway however much i lack respect for Brown the smart thing for the club to do might be keep him until the end of the season

 

[davewebbsbrain]

anyway however much i lack respect for Brown the smart thing for the club to do might be keep him until the end of the season

Yep, then we can start afresh in L2 :dim:

 

[McNasty]

In fairness, Ken, the polls shouldn't divulge how people vote.

Likewise, there's a difference between people being able to see how people voted and actually listing them in a post, highlighting their names and then belittling them as posters.

We all know the agenda here. I, for one, do feel PB might well be best off put on gardening leave, as he is unlikely to get a new contract anyway, but people have a right to vote and have their opinion.

It's like a lynch mob mentality at the moment.

This place and it's many posters have made it one of the best supporter forums out there and kudos to everyone involved, but it's going downhill under this avalanche of anti-PB feeling. Just how I see it.

The whole point of making polls public (this is usually done by the poll starter at the start of the thread) is so anyone can see them.

There is an option to keep the votes private in which case no-one can see how anyone voted.

Both of the polls quoted were public.

I do not have an agenda, I have an opinion --- a big difference.

Have you visited any other fan's forum when things are going wrong ? You should try it.

The Zone has been going for the last 16 - ish years and from time to time the tone can be crap when the team are doing badly, the same way it is a joyous place when things are good.

Is it better to have a lynch-mob mentality on here or would you prefer the same mentality at games, putting the players off their game even more ?

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

There are 2 people who voted to replace me and John:- andygb42, Dubai, Hammer, Jam_Man, nevereatwhitesnow, OldWilliam, wily cayote,

who have also voted to keep Brown :-bertbert, Blueronron, Bolton Shrimper, Brett Angle, Colchester John, Dubai, dusterman, Kestrel, mike101, nevereatwhitesnow, Prague Blue, rararblue, rdc3, shrimper61, smudgster

A real win double. Take them out of the equation and it changes things a little.

You do know that nevereatwhitesnow is a Colchester fan up to no good?

 

[rararblue]

I voted stay. I accept that PB/RM have probably got it wrong with their over reliance on older, experienced players who quite probably have seen better days. However, most of us thought that these pre season signings did nothing but improve our squad and that we would be up there challenging. Looking back, it obviously hasn't worked, but shouldn't PB/Ron be given the opportunity to put things right. This transfer window gives this opportunity and surely PB, the man that works with this group of players on a daily basis, is the person most likely to know what's needed

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I voted stay. I accept that PB/RM have probably got it wrong with their over reliance on older, experienced players who quite probably have seen better days. However, most of us thought that these pre season signings did nothing but improve our squad and that we would be up there challenging. Looking back, it obviously hasn't worked, but shouldn't PB/Ron be given the opportunity to put things right. This transfer window gives this opportunity and surely PB, the man that works with this group of players on a daily basis, is the person most likely to know what's needed

Well he doesn't know his best 11, best formation and has no plan B. His man management skills are worse than awful. What makes your think he will get players in the transfer window that will change our season for the better?

 

[onceknownasrab]

Have been reading the different "Brown out" threads with interest and would just add a couple of observations:

1. A lot of people want Brown out but have been unable to come up with realistic and affordable replacements for him. If the players don't respect the current manager (if the rumours are true...) then why would they respect Tilson or Coughlan who have not got the same level of managerial experience as Brown has. Surely we will be going with an experienced currently out of work manager...

2. There are no first team players who are remotely irreplaceable so if they are not committed to the club and want to hand in transfer requests, I would say accept the request and let them go. The senior first teamers who are on the most money are the ones, in the main, who have let us down time and time again. To blame Brown solely is to let these experienced well paid professionals off the hook!

Firstly its not our job to name the replacement and I am sure very few saw Brown coming when he did. Secondly, yes, the players are also responsible but ultimately the manager is responsible for the players and his recruitment. If that many players are dissatisfied then clearly something is wrong.

 

[McNasty]

You do know that nevereatwhitesnow is a Colchester fan up to no good?

Yep, he has been on here with his mentally defective inbred comments for years.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I've always backed Brown, but I do think enough is enough now. I think he's lost the players and the majority of the supporters. For the sake of the club, I think Ron has to make that change now.

That actually was Paul Sturrocks win, he stole the glory.

How do you possibly work that out, John? It was the Crewe Paint Pot Trophy final that, had we won, you could probably rightly say he "stole". Winning the play offs two years later can't possibly be attributed to Paul Sturrock! That was Brown's team, and he, along with them, rightfully deserves the credit for our win and the associated glory.

Tilson! Oh...hang on...

Who was there today, unusually I think, for an away game.