Brexit negotiations thread

[Swiss Tony]

Been there twice,a complete **** hole.

 

[Gremlin]

I sat next to a bloke on the Brussels Eurostar last week. He was either working for Conservative Central Office or for some right wing consultancy company. He was typing some trigger notes on a laptop, which essentially were a list of concerns. (and course I read them, as you do)


Top of that list was that the EU know their negotiating mandate, the UK only sends mixed and contradictory messages. This is likely to result in "no deal".


Second was that at some point we are going to have to tell the people we can't deliver a lot of what we told them we could and we need to be careful how this is handled.

It also (which is why I guess at the guy's profession) commented on potential for there to be no leadership challenge until the negotiations are over and that May will simply be the sacrificial lamb as the Tories attempt to rebuild some credibility before a 2020 election.

So a "Hard Brexit" by default AND we get rid of May the Remainer. Fantastic.

 

[Gremlin]

All opinion. I work there quite a lot, and I really don't like it.

I've never really enjoyed Brussels but decided to give it another go and spent some time there last summer. I have no desire to ever go back there.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I've never really enjoyed Brussels but decided to give it another go and spent some time there last summer. I have no desire to ever go back there.

That's funny.I've visited a couple of times and would love to go back.

 

[londonblue]

I've never really enjoyed Brussels but decided to give it another go and spent some time there last summer. I have no desire to ever go back there.

I might try brussels over xmas.

:hilarious:

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I've never really enjoyed Brussels but decided to give it another go and spent some time there last summer. I have no desire to ever go back there.

Know a couple of friends who went, strayed into the "wrong" area and ended up being escorted out by armed police for their own safety. Think I'll give it a miss.

 

[Swiss Tony]

That's funny.I've visited a couple of times and would love to go back.

Being boring makes you well suited to that dump.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Being boring makes you well suited to that dump.

On the contrary.speaking the language and having good friends there, meant that I was able to enjoy my visits to the full.

 

[Gremlin]

On the contrary.speaking the language and having good friends there, meant that I was able to enjoy my visits to the full.

Which language, Moroccan or Turkish?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Which language, Moroccan or Turkish?

People like you give Brits a bad name in Europe.:raspberry:

 

[Gremlin]

People like you give Brits a bad name in Europe.:raspberry:

I really don't know how I'll sleep at night.

Morocccan (or more accurately the Moroccan flavour of Arabic) and Turkish are the two fastest growing languages in Brussels. If you pop along to Sint-Jans-Molenbeek you won't hear a lot else. Remember to take your Rainbow flag with you in support of LGBT rights, won't you.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

On the contrary.speaking the language and having good friends there, meant that I was able to enjoy my visits to the full.

Which language, Moroccan or Turkish?

I really don't know how I'll sleep at night.

Morocccan (or more accurately the Moroccan flavour of Arabic) and Turkish are the two fastest growing languages in Brussels. If you pop along to Sint-Jans-Molenbeek you won't hear a lot else. Remember to take your Rainbow flag with you in support of LGBT rights, won't you.

Your remark in post 189 is borderline racist and certainly anti-immigrant.Everyone knows that various languages are spoken in Brussels, as they are in all great European cities,like London,Paris,Barcelona etc.

Multilingualism like multiculturism should be embraced as a postive.It should certaintly not be feared or decried.Your remarks remind me of Farage's imfamous comment about feeling "uncomfortable" in a London train bound for Kent, where he heard languages other than English being spoken.Really what's the problem here?

 

[Bielzibubz]

Your remark in post 189 is borderline racist and certainly anti-immigrant.Everyone knows that various languages are spoken in Brussels, as they are in all great European cities,like London,Paris,Barcelona etc.

Multilingualism like multiculturism should be embraced as a postive.It should certaintly not be feared or decried.Your remarks remind me of Farage's imfamous comment about feeling "uncomfortable" in a London train bound for Kent, where he heard languages other than English being spoken.Really what's the problem here?

Because, as has been said many many times before. You don't live here and haven't for many many years so you have no real clue what it's like to live and deal with the socially divisive issues that multiculturalism brings. You only know what you read in your left wing one sided media and what and who you choose to listen to. Neither of which come remotely close to living with and experiencing it.

I can't wouldn't and don't comment or pretend to know what it's like living with Spain's many social faults because I don't live there. Likewise, neither can you on the UK's.

 

[MK Shrimper]

[/B]Because, as has been said many many times before. You don't live here and haven't for many many years so you have no real clue what it's like to live and deal with the socially divisive issues that multiculturalism brings. You only know what you read in your one sided media and what you choose to listen to. Neither of which come remotely close to living with and experiencing it.

I can't wouldn't and don't comment or pretend to know what it's like living with Spain's many social faults because I don't live there. Likewise, neither can you on the UK's.

I live here and feel no threat when two dusky skin men speak in Arabic or Pashtu or Punjabi or Hindu or Urdu or Polish (if they've got a bit of sun) because it's compete paranoia if you think that a) They're talking about you or b) They're plotting to destroy western civilisation.

It's only divise if you feel threatened. And I don't. And I live in an area of MK that has a lot of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Polish (and no doubt a myriad of other nationalities) families....their is a community spirit, a lot of community events and I celebrate that rather than being frightened by it.

 

[londonblue]

I live here and feel no threat when two dusky skin men speak in Arabic or Pashtu or Punjabi or Hindu or Urdu or Polish (if they've got a bit of sun) because it's compete paranoia if you think that a) They're talking about you or b) They're plotting to destroy western civilisation.

It's only divise if you feel threatened. And I don't. And I live in an area of MK that has a lot of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Polish (and no doubt a myriad of other nationalities) families....their is a community spirit, a lot of community events and I celebrate that rather than being frightened by it.

Ted

Or even this:

Ted Again

 

[MK Shrimper]

Ted

I expected Father Crilly & co, but that's just as good. :smile:

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I live here and feel no threat when two dusky skin men speak in Arabic or Pashtu or Punjabi or Hindu or Urdu or Polish (if they've got a bit of sun) because it's compete paranoia if you think that a) They're talking about you or b) They're plotting to destroy western civilisation.

It's only divise if you feel threatened. And I don't. And I live in an area of MK that has a lot of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Polish (and no doubt a myriad of other nationalities) families....their is a community spirit, a lot of community events and I celebrate that rather than being frightened by it.

Great post.

I live in a diverse area and it's all the better for it.

The only time I ever feel threatened is by bad driving, which could be of any nationality, religion or gender.

 

[MK Shrimper]

So it looks like British nationals living abroad will not be able to move to another EU country after Brexit, meaning Barna could only return to the UK if he left Spain.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So it looks like British nationals living abroad will not be able to move to another EU country after Brexit, meaning Barna could only return to the UK if he left Spain.

Ha! I have no plans to do so (remind you of the ending to Silence of the Lambs :winking:) but you never know.:smiles:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Because, as has been said many many times before. You don't live here and haven't for many many years so you have no real clue what it's like to live and deal with the socially divisive issues that multiculturalism brings. You only know what you read in your left wing one sided media and what and who you choose to listen to. Neither of which come remotely close to living with and experiencing it.

I can't wouldn't and don't comment or pretend to know what it's like living with Spain's many social faults because I don't live there. Likewise, neither can you on the UK's.

Actually, we were talking about Brussels rather than "here" before you butted in.If you think the UK is the only country which faces multiculturalism "issues" you're mistaken.

If you think the UK has really greatly changed since April/May (when I was over last), or will change before September/October (when I'll be over next).I'd be interested to know in what way(s).