Blues star Ranger admits £2,000 online banking fraud

[Firestorm]

Yes many of us have done some bad stuff, it's just the vulnerable person bit, it don't sit well at all with me.

Can you tell a person is vulnerable from a bank account number ?

 

[MK Shrimper]

Can you tell a person is vulnerable from a bank account number ?

I imagine he (they?) knew the person in question or took advantage of.

 

[Mr Browns Ghost]

the club should put him on his own community service, One his actual punishment is know.... Would any of you employ an ex offender once they had done there time or punishment? I'm sure lots of you would (and rightly so)

Not a crime to roll yourself in any glory over, and leaves a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths... But never has there been a more truer time in Niles rehabilitation, and now lets see him walk the walk. We as a club need to stand up to this too...

what is FACT, is that this didn't happen last week (which would be a totally different can of worms) The line in the sand was drawn when he had that conversation with Ron and Phil and told them he had changed. This happened a couple of years ago... We cant keep hanging him, I only hope we do stand by him, and I genuinely hope he embraces the support we show him

 

[united we stand]

Can you tell a person is vulnerable from a bank account number ?

You can't , but you can when you phone them up trying to obtain their back details which is what is being reported in the below link .

http://www.barnet-today.co.uk/artic... fraud charges&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2016

 

[united we stand]

the club should put him on his own community service, One his actual punishment is know.... Would any of you employ an ex offender once they had done there time or punishment? I'm sure lots of you would (and rightly so)

Not a crime to roll yourself in any glory over, and leaves a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths... But never has there been a more truer time in Niles rehabilitation, and now lets see him walk the walk. We as a club need to stand up to this too...

what is FACT, is that this didn't happen last week (which would be a totally different can of worms) The line in the sand was drawn when he had that conversation with Ron and Phil and told them he had changed. This happened a couple of years ago... We cant keep hanging him, I only hope we do stand by him, and I genuinely hope he embraces the support we show him

for the sake of accuracy , this happened less than 11 months ago, Feb 18 2016

 

[manor15]

You can't , but you can when you phone them up trying to obtain their back details which is what is being reported in the below link .

http://www.barnet-today.co.uk/artic... fraud charges&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2016

That would make it seem that Ranger was interviewed in May, yet didn't PB claim they knew nothing about this until he was charged just after signing his new contract?

 

[Napster]

Dressed in a green bomber jacket and jeans, the former Newcastle Utd striker today admitted conspiracy to defraud but denied money laundering when he appeared at Wood Green Crown Court, north London.
The prosecution said they would not be seeking a trial against Ranger on the money laundering charge.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bank-details-phone-fleeced.html#ixzz4VSVubk55

 

[Napster]

Not sentenced until April.

 

[Napster]

Nile's barrister asked for a pre-sentence report, saying: ‘He has previous convictions, but the most serious of which was 10 years ago now.’

 

[Napster]

Ranger was today granted bail on the condition he does not contact Ms Bloss and he notify his solicitors if he intends to take a holiday.

A spokesman for the Met Police said: 'Detectives from FALCON, the Met’s response to Fraud and Linked Crime, have charged a man with fraud and money laundering offences.
'Nile Ranger was charged on Monday 12 December with conspiracy to defraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
'The offences are alleged to have been committed on or around 18 February 2015 and relate to the fraudulent obtaining of bank details by telephone from a vulnerable person in order to gain access to the victim's savings.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bank-details-phone-fleeced.html#ixzz4VSWg4kEB
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[Floval Flyer]

Can you tell a person is vulnerable from a bank account number ?

send me your bank details and pin number and i'll check it for you :winking:

 

[Napster]

for the sake of accuracy , this happened less than 11 months ago, Feb 18 2016

Not true. see above

 

[Blues 'n twos]

The admission of guilt may go a long way in obtaining a lesser sentence, but with the screwed up justice system in this country where causing death by reckless driving is not classed as manslaughter, who knows? And that's just one that springs to mind!

From a personal point of view, as much as the vulnerable person bit doesn't sit well with me, people can and do reform, and can have regrets for their past actions, and as long as he keeps his nose clean from now on, and accepts with dignity and grace the decision of the court, support him, the last thing he needs to make him stray from the straight and narrow is to be ditched again by the club and fans.

 

[finny67]

I'm beginning to think he's an idiot . Would it really have asked too much to put a shirt and tie on when going to court >

oh no , he decides green flight jacket and jeans is appropriate!

Even if he hasn't got a brain cell, surely his barrister or agent could have advised him !!

Absolute clown .

 

[Mad Cyril]

I'm beginning to think he's an idiot . Would it really have asked too much to put a shirt and tie on when going to court >

oh no , he decides green flight jacket and jeans is appropriate!

Even if he hasn't got a brain cell, surely his barrister or agent could have advised him !!

Absolute clown .

I wore a suit to magistrates court and received a much larger fine than those that turned up in tracksuits.

 

[Napster]

So laundering not used
Harm in the lesser category and if the others are guilty then his culpability is low (part of a group, single victim). could be a community order or very small sentence.

 

[Napster]

I wore a suit to magistrates court and received a much larger fine than those that turned up in tracksuits.

depends - in Liverpool the trackie is their suit.

 

[Leoblue]

I'm beginning to think he's an idiot . Would it really have asked too much to put a shirt and tie on when going to court >

oh no , he decides green flight jacket and jeans is appropriate!

Even if he hasn't got a brain cell, surely his barrister or agent could have advised him !!

Absolute clown .

I wouldn't say clown but I do agree, if you go to court you wear a suit/shirt and tie and make an effort. After all, we all know it's all about first appearance in all walks of life.

 

[united we stand]

Not true. see above

daily mail says 2015

Court news says 2016, and have more details in their story than anyone else, so my tendancey is to believe them . However I guess it could be a mistake and they didn't change the 'last year' when upating the story
BBC says 2016. http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/former-premier-league-star-admits-bank-scam/

 

[Ironshrimper]

Yes he should have dressed appropriate, judgemental or not, that judge would have looked at him and thought....