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Post-Match Thread and Ratings York City 3-0 Southend United

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Chris Powell's mate said:
Every solution over nearly 200 posts.
The players are good enough; they're not; it's Maher's fault; it's the embargo's; it's the tactics; it's the skill level, and so on.
So, question: does KM deliberately want to lose?
Does he train this crew all week, and not discuss with the other two how best to get results?
Does he daily assess what's in front of him?
By playing 'crab' football is he deliberately trying to avoid putting the ball in the onion bag?
My guess, is he knows what he's got don't have many options.
I wasn't there today, but I was last week.
The passing and control was for the most part woeful.
I could single out individuals, but this squad is just not capable of give-an-go at speed. There is for the first time in a while, no aerial threat back and front.
OK, let's surmise KM gone. What is any new man going to do with what's in front of him?
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The new manager would improve our players performance and play an formation that suit them too.
 
wiggy said:
Let’s face it, these players ARE good enough in a tin pot League but the manager is incapable of using them to the best of their ability. It’s getting boring now as same every week….he has to play Miley or Husin or both…far better players on the bench to try to scoreor assist for a goal but amazingly he will not do it. Oh please get rid of him and let’s go forward and enjoy the sleeping giant in this League…,he really gets more stubborn and negative every week and enough is enough.
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I disagree with you that the players are good enough. How many of them are being watched by scouts from EFL. Probably zero. Kevins chosen style of play is open to criticism but teams win games playing that way. The problem is that we chronically lack goals from all areas of the team, we have far too many players who don't have goals in them.
 
yogi bear up the cagire said:
My main concern today was not that we didn't score or even that we weren't set up for this. It was, as I suggested earlier, that we conceded three goals in twelve minutes, all from set pieces. I may have my criticisms of KM but today I don't feel he had a lot of options. I honestly don't think that if we'd set up in a more attacking mode it would have made a difference to the result , with our weaknesses in defence exposed. More a question of whether you prefer to lose 3-0 or 5-2? Change what you want but the fact remains that, at the moment, York City have a superior squad to ours and are playing with far more confidence.
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We may have 3 centre backs but they don’t do the basics from set pieces. Sometimes it’s just getting that leader in there that can turn it around. I think this is where I struggle with the 5 at the back to be honest - especially if Gus moves in Jan. Wind seems to be more a right back to a wing back. Ralph can easily play left back and well. Taylor could probably play alongside a leader in a 4. So are we catering for Crowther who doesn’t seem ready ?
 
Sherif H said:
Theoretically we could take both Harris and Barrett. For me that would be the ticket.
Two Southend fans and have been plying their trade at a significantly higher level for a few years now.
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Let's not forget that Harris thought it was a good idea to sign Tim Dieng when at Gills. That move alone should serve as a warning that we don't want him anywhere near the Roots Hall hot seat.
 
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Lincoln Shrimp said:
Let's not forget that Harris thought it was a good idea to sign Tim Dieng when at Gills. That move alone should serve as a warning that we don't want him anywhere near the Roots Hall hor seat.
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If we had a midfielder with Dieng's range of passing and vision we might be able to create a few more chances for our strikers. I don't buy that time worn stereotype of the lazy Frenchman, he has had a decent career at a higher level than our present situation.
 
Roger The Alien said:
The new manager would improve our players performance and play an formation that suit them too.
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OK...how? How would he make average footballers play better following the first couple of new-manager bounce games?
How would a formation change improve slow players who don't control the ball that well?
The new man would be sticking plaster ready to peel off only too soon.
 
On the issue of strength of squad out of curiosity I went back to one of our best team performances of the the last few seasons to look at who played. It was the Barnet 0 Southend 3 game at the Hive just over two years ago.

Our two forwards that night were Powell and Wreh. Are we really worse off now ?
The midfield 3 were Miley, Taylor and Fonguck. Is that really stronger than 3 we can put out now ?
The wingbacks and goalkeeper are the same now... Collin, Gus and Bridge.
The back 3 ? Lopata, Kensdale and Hobson. Now they are on a different planet to our options now.

Maybe yet more midfielders and strikers aren't the answer.
 
blues exile said:
If we had a midfielder with Dieng's range of passing and vision we might be able to create a few more chances for our strikers. I don't buy that time worn stereotype of the lazy Frenchman, he has had a decent career at a higher level than our present situation.
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Miley and Husin are better then?
 
Chris Powell's mate said:
OK...how? How would he make average footballers play better following the first couple of new-manager bounce games?
How would a formation change improve slow players who don't control the ball that well?
The new man would be sticking plaster ready to peel off only too soon.
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See Forest Green games when we played 4-3-3 formation as we showed paces and creativity. Same for Halifax game too.
 
Roger The Alien said:
See Forest Green games when we played 4-3-3 formation as we showed paces and creativity. Same for Halifax game too.
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Admittedly, one of them was a win, one of the six all season, but you're saying the way we played in those games made the difference?
The goals were a run from Pepple; a header from a corner; and a couple of penalty area cash-ins.
Have just looked again, and can't see how formation played a part.
 
Leigh_Seasider said:
Yeah but the bloke was useless in a fight. Not what we needed then, or now.
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Football skills are what we need not bar room brawlers a la Boreham Wood. I know Dieng is one in a long line of succession from Ron Atkinson's infamous racist remark about the black French footballer Desailly all those years ago, stereotypes tend to stick.
 
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