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Extracted from the following

http://http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-31782700

Dylan Jones, head teacher at Ysgol Bro Morgannwg school in Barry, confirmed a sixth form pupil had died along with a former pupil. A third student was seriously injured in hospital, he said.

A statement on the school's website reads: "Following a car accident we received some sad news about our pupils.

"Our thoughts and sympathies are with their families and we wish a speedy recovery to all those who have also been injured in the incident."

The school is preparing support for pupils on Monday.


However tragic the accident was what sort of farking support do sixth formers need exactly?
 
Grief counselling, I expect.

Yes but why exactly. When I was at School one of my very close friends died in a horrific car crash. Did I get counselling either individually or at school ? No. Was my life any worse for that? No. It's all far too American for me. A tragic school event would be something different.


Actually while posting this (and I'm about as non-believing on religion as it is possible to be) I do remember the local priest coming around a couple of days afterwards and with no God is good agenda just asking if I was ok and telling me to call on him if I wanted a chat. I was probably too young and too rude to appreciate it at the time and I don't know why I've just remembered it.
 
Yes but why exactly. When I was at School one of my very close friends died in a horrific car crash. Did I get counselling either individually or at school ? No. Was my life any worse for that? No. It's all far too American for me. A tragic school event would be something different.


Actually while posting this (and I'm about as non-believing on religion as it is possible to be) I do remember the local priest coming around a couple of days afterwards and with no God is good agenda just asking if I was ok and telling me to call on him if I wanted a chat. I was probably too young and too rude to appreciate it at the time and I don't know why I've just remembered it.

Not everyone is the same as you. I am sure plenty of soldiers come out of the army without PTSD, even those who have seen horrific things, but on the other hand some do. It doesn't say the kids are going to be sat down and forced into anything, but the offer will be there if they feel they need it.
 
Yes but why exactly. When I was at School one of my very close friends died in a horrific car crash. Did I get counselling either individually or at school ? No. Was my life any worse for that? No. It's all far too American for me. A tragic school event would be something different.

I just think times have changed and this kind of need is more recognised now. As you say, it may be more of an American influence that has grown over time. I also think that bottling it up has proved over time not to be the ideal way of dealing with grief at a relatively young age.

I often acted as a grief counsellor for children while working at KHJS, whether they had lost a parent, grandparent or pet. It was just one of those extra unpaid things that TAs can be called upon to do, without having any specific training.
 
Perth, OBL. Thanks for that. Counterarguments accepted though the troops one is slightly different given their clear and direct involvement.
 
That is true to an extent. A lot of vietnam vets report suffering flashbacks from contacts etc that they didn't even witness as their problems. A fairly common report is one of a contact where a friend/colleague died (and the soldier in question wasn't there) but in the flashback they were there but couldn't save them etc, or just flashbacks about when they heard the news etc. Quite often it seems to be a feeling of guilt. Why did they die and not me etc.
 
2 and a half hours to kill in a funking boring trade show before i give a presentation to probaby about 10 equally bored people. Free wifi but my phone is dying...joy :nope:
 
The Evening Standard - it may be free, but **** me it's ****. Has it's metaphorical tongue up the arses of the rich and pointless like it's doffing it's cap.
 
The NHS.
I have friends who have a son, physically he is mid 40s, and 14 stone, strong as an ox etc; but when born it didn't happen correctly and he has the mental faculties of btn 8-10 years. His family have power of attourney etc.
He got a sore on his finger, it got infected, it got worse: he is hard to watch 24/7 and stuff.
They took him 3 times to the GP and nurse, they also took him to A&E, they tried to get him treated privately: but Wellsley won't deal with persons like him who are uninsurable.
Eventually after much struggle and countless sitting in waiting rooms they see a specialist at Broomfield who recognises a very bad condition and so now he has been operated on for the spreading infection.
This has taken weeks and the boy (that is what he is) has been in agony. Many many hours of their time and cost involved, and emotional stress.
I think this is a sad tale, bad for the boy and a proper waste of the families time and all that of the nurses etc who kept fobbing his treatment off to someone else rather than dealing effectively with it.
 
Very train based hacking off this evening.

Firstly, you're queuing for the tube. Queuing. Where you patiently stand in line and wait for your turn to board the next tube. Don't join the queue at my side. Don't linger at the back in 'no mans land' and make a tactical dash for the front once the tube arrives. That's called taking the ****. It's a basic concept that some are clearly lacking. We're not doing it for enjoyment and believe me, we'd all like to get home this evening.

Secondly, when you're on the platform waiting for your train home, if the train that pulls into the platform is not the one you are wishing to board, please politely STAND AT THE BACK OUT OF THE WAY. Please don't stand directly in front of the doors blocking everyone getting off and everyone getting on. You might be nicely positioned to be first on your train WHEN IT ARRIVES, but that is also called taking the ****.

I would gladly see these people jailed for crimes to other commuters :angry:
 
Very train based hacking off this evening.

Firstly, you're queuing for the tube. Queuing. Where you patiently stand in line and wait for your turn to board the next tube. Don't join the queue at my side. Don't linger at the back in 'no mans land' and make a tactical dash for the front once the tube arrives. That's called taking the ****. It's a basic concept that some are clearly lacking. We're not doing it for enjoyment and believe me, we'd all like to get home this evening.

Secondly, when you're on the platform waiting for your train home, if the train that pulls into the platform is not the one you are wishing to board, please politely STAND AT THE BACK OUT OF THE WAY. Please don't stand directly in front of the doors blocking everyone getting off and everyone getting on. You might be nicely positioned to be first on your train WHEN IT ARRIVES, but that is also called taking the ****.

I would gladly see these people jailed for crimes to other commuters :angry:

I don't know how you all do it. I was in London yesterday at Olympia. Got the District line (about lunchtime) and it was packed solid with people fighting their way on - not to mention some numbnuts sitting on a bike who was very rude to people around him. Then going home I had the bright idea of going direct to MK from Olympia but as the train came in you already couldn't squeeze Warwick Davies onto the train - let alone the 200+ people waiting for it.

Never commuted into London, never will.

Masterchef is back!

And still no MK Shrimper.

Did you not see me in my disguise of stupid moustache and stupid bow tie?
 
Never commuted into London, never will.

It's an alpha male apex predator environment where you are constantly swimming with sharks and piranhas and avoiding tigers dropped on you from helicopters.

I can understand that it's not for everyone.
 
as the train came in you already couldn't squeeze Warwick Davies onto the train - let alone the 200+ people waiting for it.

Why were you trying to get on a train with Warwick Davies?

By the way though - so many of those Southern Train services up to MK are only four-carriage jobs. No idea why. As someone who sits in an office with people who work in the railway industry, would you be able to ask around?
 
Why were you trying to get on a train with Warwick Davies?

By the way though - so many of those Southern Train services up to MK are only four-carriage jobs. No idea why. As someone who sits in an office with people who work in the railway industry, would you be able to ask around?

Why not post the question on an internet forum.

One of his colleagues is bound to spot it.
 
Why not post the question on an internet forum.

One of his colleagues is bound to spot it.

There's a few Southend fans in NR so who knows :dim:

Why were you trying to get on a train with Warwick Davies?

Ewok convention.

By the way though - so many of those Southern Train services up to MK are only four-carriage jobs. No idea why. As someone who sits in an office with people who work in the railway industry, would you be able to ask around?

Serious answer - Southern may not have the stock....the platform lengths are probably not long enough (I know they're not at MK).
 

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