Ukip

[Uncle Leo]

certainly not a UKIP fan but to get only 1 seat when they got such a large proportion of the vote can't be democracy

The system does need looking at, but I'd have a little more sympathy for UKIP if they'd been stating that case before the election.

 

[maninasuitcase]

Farage has quit as UKIP leader.

 

[South Bank Hank]

Farage has quit as UKIP leader.

At least he no longer has to worry about an immigrant taking his job.

 

[Pubey]

At least he no longer has to worry about an immigrant taking his job.

Unless his wife steps up.

 

[londonblue]

Unless his wife steps up.

She can't. She's an immigrant. She won't be allowed to join the party.

 

[Blueronron]

He may stand again in the summer after a holiday

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Farage has quit as UKIP leader.

Sort of quit.

I think he's got to dry out this summer, after a campaign trail spent constantly drinking a pint to show his man of the people credentials.

 

[callan]

Sort of quit.

I think he's got to dry out this summer, after a campaign trail spent constantly drinking a pint to show his man of the people credentials.

Smokes like a beagle too!

 

[Benfleet A1]

She can't. She's an immigrant. She won't be allowed to join the party.

Wonder if they know about Tim Acker,that MEP of Turkish descent.

 

[Firestorm]

The system does need looking at, but I'd have a little more sympathy for UKIP if they'd been stating that case before the election.

How many of those voting Ukip and bemoaning the first past the post system, voted no, or didn't vote at,all in the AV referendum 4 years ago.
Might seem a little less pointless in hindsight

 

[* ORM *]

they can't all be tory voters defecting to UKIP so what has happened to the labour vote?
didn't they win the seat a while back?

This, to me is the most intriguing element post election. Scotland I can understand, DUP and Plaid Cymru I can understand. On the face of it the defection to UKIP was not from the centre right but from the centre and left of centre. I'm sure that is over-simplifying election results but there can be no denying a trend. I did see swings towards UKIP in Tory strongholds. Anyone care to provide insights ?

 

[Uncle Leo]

How many of those voting Ukip and bemoaning the first past the post system, voted no, or didn't vote at,all in the AV referendum 4 years ago.
Might seem a little less pointless in hindsight

Precisely. Around 25m eligible voters didn't bother with that one.

 

[rigsby]

This, to me is the most intriguing element post election. Scotland I can understand, DUP and Plaid Cymru I can understand. On the face of it the defection to UKIP was not from the centre right but from the centre and left of centre. I'm sure that is over-simplifying election results but there can be no denying a trend. I did see swings towards UKIP in Tory strongholds. Anyone care to provide insights ?

Three reasons Labour lost the election rather than Conservatives winning. Miliband, Krankie and UKIP.

By ignoring the people they are supposed to represent. The working and I do mean working class people north and south of the border have longed for an alternative option. As anyone can see all the left wing uni, I'm the moral guardian types who post on hear, smugly thought UKIP were only taking Tory votes.

With Boris as the obvious next Tory leader we can all look forward to at least 10 if not 15 years of the Bullingdon boys

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Three reasons Labour lost the election rather than Conservatives winning. Miliband, Krankie and UKIP.

By ignoring the people they are supposed to represent. The working and I do mean working class people north and south of the border have longed for an alternative option. As anyone can see all the left wing uni, I'm the moral guardian types who post on hear, smugly thought UKIP were only taking Tory votes.

With Boris as the obvious next Tory leader we can all look forward to at least 10 if not 15 years of the Bullingdon boys

Although, it's certainly true that UKIP finished second in a lot of safe Labour seats, they didn't seriously threaten to gain a seat from Labour anywhere in the country.

Indeed the only seat UKIP won, in Clacton,is of course an ex-Tory seat and with a majority of now less than 5,000, (some 3,300 IIRC), is a marginal that the Tories will probably win back at some time in the future.

The phenomenon of the working-class Tory (about 1:3 WC voters has,of course long been documented in political studies.

While it is true that UKIP have gained support from some white working class former Labour supporters recent evidence makes it clear that this is not in the same proportion as support from former Tory voters.Nor, incidentally,do UKIP tend to poll well with younger people.

(PS Who/what is Krankie)?

 

[dloman]

Although, it's certainly true that UKIP finished second in a lot of safe Labour seats, they didn't seriously threaten to gain a seat from Labour anywhere in the country.

Indeed the only seat UKIP won, in Clacton,is of course an ex-Tory seat and with a majority of now less than 5,000, (some 3,300 IIRC), is a marginal that the Tories will probably win back at some time in the future.


The phenomenon of the working-class Tory (about 1:3 WC voters has,of course long been documented in political studies.

While it is true that UKIP have gained support from some white working class former Labour supporters recent evidence makes it clear that this is not in the same proportion as support from former Tory voters.Nor, incidentally,do UKIP tend to poll well with younger people.

(PS Who/what is Krankie)?

Strangely enough a fair number of UKIP voters this time around did come from the under 30's and many from Labour as well. Even in the marginal seats where UKIP were strong and Labour were hoping to win, the swing was still towards the Tories.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Strangely enough a fair number of UKIP voters this time around did come from the under 30's and many from Labour as well. Even in the marginal seats where UKIP were strong and Labour were hoping to win, the swing was still towards the Tories.

Got a link to justify this?

 

[Firestorm]

Although, it's certainly true that UKIP finished second in a lot of safe Labour seats, they didn't seriously threaten to gain a seat from Labour anywhere in the country.

Indeed the only seat UKIP won, in Clacton,is of course an ex-Tory seat and with a majority of now less than 5,000, (some 3,300 IIRC), is a marginal that the Tories will probably win back at some time in the future.

The phenomenon of the working-class Tory (about 1:3 WC voters has,of course long been documented in political studies.

While it is true that UKIP have gained support from some white working class former Labour supporters recent evidence makes it clear that this is not in the same proportion as support from former Tory voters.Nor, incidentally,do UKIP tend to poll well with younger people.

(PS Who/what is Krankie)?

I assumed that Krankie is being used to describe Nicola Sturgeon , possibily derogatory, possibly because the poster cant remember/be bothered to look up , her name

 

[dloman]

Got a link to justify this?

http://news.sky.com/story/1480147/farage-quits-after-westminster-bid-fails http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/08/ukip-frustrated-share-vote-fails-translate-seats Under 30's women apparently.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I assumed that Krankie is being used to describe Nicola Sturgeon , possibily derogatory, possibly because the poster cant remember/be bothered to look up , her name

Possibly because she looks a little like Jeanette Krankie?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://news.sky.com/story/1480147/farage-quits-after-westminster-bid-fails http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/08/ukip-frustrated-share-vote-fails-translate-seats Under 30's women apparently.

Thanks for the link but only one bit of the article backs up your assertion that:-

"a fair number of UKIP voters this time around did come from the under 30's and many from Labour as well."

"But I saw another shift in this election and I saw UKIP, the party apparently for the retired old colonels, suddenly the party for people under 30, particularly young working women."

That is, of course,a direct quote from NF and hardly qualifies as evidence-based research.