Transfer News, Gossip & Speculation Transfer Rumours Thread 2024/2025.

[Rattus Norvegicus]

Would be interesting to know the results if you threw pre southend freddy eastwood, stan collymore or shaun goater through the data analysis....

And Brett Angel - you only to see how he couldn't run normally to see that he was a complete waste of time ......... oh, hang on .......

 

[leeblue]

The owners are not going to 'splash out' this window....loans and freebies maybe.
They have spent on off the field stuff...and summer will be the player recruitment spend.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Some ws you say were dubious, however you are not one of them. When we got him you said:

I suggest you read my post more carefully.

I say it’s big but I don’t say it is big for good reasons. I say it’s spending a lot of our wage budget on a player who doesn’t fit into our style of play.

 

[Jay_SUFC]

Our only hope is that our recruitment is better than everyone else’s. I guess this is what they’re going to attempt with the new data driven approach. As you say, we aren’t going to compete with at least 3 or 4 other clubs when it comes to outlay and wages. So we need to think outside the box.

The difficult thing for some to grasp and come to terms with, is how a club with nearly 7,000 through the gate most weeks (over 3x the league average) cannot compete at the top end of the NL when it comes to transfers and therefore on the pitch as well. But that is the reality Thanks to the hangover of the last decade of mismanagement and it ****es me off massively. We should be steamrolling all in this league when it comes to financial and general clout. But, it’s where we are now, regrettably.

It's not just recruitment though. It's getting the best out of the players you have.

There are a number of teams that do well, without spending a fortune on players.

 

[Jack_23]

The owners are not going to 'splash out' this window....loans and freebies maybe.
They have spent on off the field stuff...and summer will be the player recruitment spend.

No one’s expecting us to splash the cash . All we want is for the team be given a chance to compete 2nd half of the season with stuff still to play for . Absolute bonkers if we are writing this season off already. And not the attitude I want at my club. Some ITK’s have said that consortium were ready to spend undisclosed fees on 2/3 players . Yet now it’s waiting till the summer

 

[Strykr]

Our only hope is that our recruitment is better than everyone else’s. I guess this is what they’re going to attempt with the new data driven approach. As you say, we aren’t going to compete with at least 3 or 4 other clubs when it comes to outlay and wages. So we need to think outside the box.

The difficult thing for some to grasp and come to terms with, is how a club with nearly 7,000 through the gate most weeks (over 3x the league average) cannot compete at the top end of the NL when it comes to transfers and therefore on the pitch as well. But that is the reality Thanks to the hangover of the last decade of mismanagement and it ****es me off massively. We should be steamrolling all in this league when it comes to financial and general clout. But, it’s where we are now, regrettably.

Indeed,

So the questions are

1.how long will it take us to recover, if ever?
2. Will the support stand for mid table non league dull football
3. Will most of us (if hopefully still here) be 70+ years old before we see some success....

 

[Smiffy]

It's not just recruitment though. It's getting the best out of the players you have.

There are a number of teams that do well, without spending a fortune on players.

Agreed. But if you are constantly recruiting your 4th, 5th and 10th choice targets for the first XI. Then it’s going to be almost impossible to mount a promotion charge, even if you are squeezing everything out of them.

This summer however, we must be recruiting our first choice targets. No excuses. COSU need to show some clout early doors, to keep the masses interested enough to part with another £400+ and the attendances high.

 

[JB Shrimper]

I suggest you read my post more carefully.

I say it’s big but I don’t say it is big for good reasons. I say it’s spending a lot of our wage budget on a player who doesn’t fit into our style of play.

Okay I've read it again and at no point have you said this is a signing that you are wary of. Just how big it is in many ways. I mean unless there is small print in there that the human eye can't see, you said this was a big signing, but feel free to try and twist it how you would like if that makes you sleep better at night.

 

[Cricko]

Agreed. But if you are constantly recruiting your 4th, 5th and 10th choice targets for the first XI. Then it’s going to be almost impossible to mount a promotion charge, even if you are squeezing everything out of them.

This summer however, we must be recruiting our first choice targets. No excuses. COSU need to show some clout early doors, to keep the masses interested enough to part with another £400+ and the attendances high.

There is also the factor like Cardwell that if we do manage to get a decent player that we make sure the contract is very much in our favour and not lose him because of a clause set early.

 

[Grayson]

Okay I've read it again and at no point have you said this is a signing that you are wary of. Just how big it is in many ways. I mean unless there is small print in there that the human eye can't see, you said this was a big signing, but feel free to try and twist it how you would like if that makes you sleep better at night.

It was quite obviously commenting on how much of a gamble the signing was.

 

[JB Shrimper]

It was quite obviously commenting on how much of a gamble the signing was.

Not clear at all. It was just advising how.much of a statement of intent it was. It was purposely ambiguously worded so that either outcome he could claim to be right.

 

[Tommy2holes]

Agreed. But if you are constantly recruiting your 4th, 5th and 10th choice targets for the first XI. Then it’s going to be almost impossible to mount a promotion charge, even if you are squeezing everything out of them.

This summer however, we must be recruiting our first choice targets. No excuses. COSU need to show some clout early doors, to keep the masses interested enough to part with another £400+ and the attendances high.

Signing first choice depends on wages. If other clubs with better finances come in then, our first choices choose elsewhere.

 

[Paddypel]

Agreed. But if you are constantly recruiting your 4th, 5th and 10th choice targets for the first XI. Then it’s going to be almost impossible to mount a promotion charge, even if you are squeezing everything out of them.

This summer however, we must be recruiting our first choice targets. No excuses. COSU need to show some clout early doors, to keep the masses interested enough to part with another £400+ and the attendances high.

I’m not shy of giving COSU some criticism when it comes to recruitment etc but I’d argue they showed clout by signing Bonne & Moncur who were both playing league 1 football last season. Trouble is our on the field antics haven’t suited or got the best out of either although I accept both have flattered to deceive.

I think those two were our big plays this season in the transfer market and with that being the case I think there’s space for a decent loan from the EFL with Moncurs stay being cut short.

FWIW I’d be looking at Amatchi at Bromley & Wyllie from Gills. Both were led to beleive have been on our radar before.

 

[Lincoln Shrimp]

I also think that Amantchi is a prime target of ours in this window.
As @Paddypel has highlighted, we know Kev was interested before. With Kabamba now signed from Barnet, I suspect Levi's substitute appearance yesterday at James' Park was his swansong and was a match he was desperate to be involved in as he is a lifelong Newcastle fan.

Whyllie could be a good option on loan for the remainder of the season if Gills are prepared to let him go.

 

[kentblues]

So to capture where we are- there are no transfer rumours?

 

[dusterman]

So to capture where we are- there are no transfer rumours?

Other than ones we are making up ourselves? No sadly.

 

[Boreham Blue]

Maybe this is better renamed the transfer suggestion thread

 

[Tampa Blue]

Is John Still myth or magic?

I understand his hands have been tied and he has had to operate under pretty poor circumstances I but am surprised that he is still with us if his reputation in the game is so high. The likes of Dave Martin were soon snaffled up.

Is there anyone clever in SZ who could create a poll of all signings in the last two season with HIT, MISS or JURYS OUT as options?

It would be interesting to see the overall feelings of this forum regarding our recruitment to date.

 

[fbm]

The bottom line. If the owners want EFL football then the playing budget needs to increase.

It's been proven time and time again that the sides that get out of this division have the best players and have had to pay for them.

This season is no exception. York, FGR and Barnet have all spent money.

Without the money the chances of winning the league or play offs is slim

I think there is a danger of thinking Big budget = Guaranteed promotion. Whilst it undoubtably gives an edge, Wrexham went up in their second season of high wages. Also, in the last 10 seasons, these teams have been promoted (1st named as champions, 2nd named as Play-off winners). How many of these had huge playing budgets do we think?

Barnet - Bristol Rovers
Cheltenham - Grimsby
Lincoln - FGR
Macclesfield - Tranmere
Orient - Salford
Barrow - Harrogate
Sutton - Hartlepool
Stockport - Grimsby
Wrexham - Notts Co
Chesterfield - Bromley

It's a genuine question by the way, I don't know the answer. I would imagine several of those teams did NOT have the biggest wage budgets in the world. But I seriously have no idea.

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

I think there is a danger of thinking Big budget = Guaranteed promotion. Whilst it undoubtably gives an edge, Wrexham went up in their second season of high wages. Also, in the last 10 seasons, these teams have been promoted (1st named as champions, 2nd named as Play-off winners). How many of these had huge playing budgets do we think?

Barnet - Bristol Rovers
Cheltenham - Grimsby
Lincoln - FGR
Macclesfield - Tranmere
Orient - Salford
Barrow - Harrogate
Sutton - Hartlepool
Stockport - Grimsby
Wrexham - Notts Co
Chesterfield - Bromley

It's a genuine question by the way, I don't know the answer. I would imagine several of those teams did NOT have the biggest wage budgets in the world. But I seriously have no idea.

What I would say, over those ten years, it's gone from traditional non-league, to more money driven over that time. You only have to look at how many clubs were semi-pro when Barnet and Cheltenham went up, to how many are there now. It was arguably easier to get promoted then compared to now.

The last 3 seasons, 4 including this one, has all been about money in regards to winning the league. Stockport, Wrexham and Chesterfield all spent a lot of money. York and FGR's are doing the same. We also have the likes of Oldham spending too. Carlisle have new owners and are already trying to spend their way out of trouble. If the get relegated, they will be another spender down here.

Spending is by no means a guarantee, but no one can say that it doesn't help. Players get sold, that's a given, but it's what you do in return. Barnet have lost Kabamba and gone and got Ndlovlu. That's what is required to challenge.