Transfer News and Gossip Transfer Rumours Thread 2023-24 (Part 2 - Back in Business. Oh no we’re not)

[Medway Blue]

I believe that debt under a formal agreed payment plan is not counted- same with HMRC debt.

Just saying what I was told. The NL told us to sort football creditors before agreeing to allow us to compete this season, and were satisfied with the payment plans that TL set up with the clubs in question.

 

[Blue Yonder]

Just saying what I was told. The NL told us to sort football creditors before agreeing to allow us to compete this season, and were satisfied with the payment plans that TL set up with the clubs in question.

No doubt our owner didn’t keep to the plans and hence still an embargo otherwise it would be difficult for the NL to justify

 

[Medway Blue]

No doubt our owner didn’t keep to the plans and hence still an embargo otherwise it would be difficult for the NL to justify

The owner didn't pay the monies owed to other clubs in the first place, hence it being a condition of our entry into the competition this season. They were satisfied with payment plans being set up in the end.

Football creditors have nothing to do with the embargo, AFAIK. It is now literally on because of HMRC debt, and that has been the case for months.

 

[Leeboy]

The owner didn't pay the monies owed to other clubs in the first place, hence it being a condition of our entry into the competition this season. They were satisfied with payment plans being set up in the end.

Football creditors have nothing to do with the embargo, AFAIK. It is now literally on because of HMRC debt, and that has been the case for months.

I'm pretty sure last Thursday Tom L said the embargo would be lifted when all football related creditors - which include HMRC- were paid?

Maybe I am wrong I stand to be corrected if so ( it was nearly a week ago)

 

[Blue Yonder]

The owner didn't pay the monies owed to other clubs in the first place, hence it being a condition of our entry into the competition this season. They were satisfied with payment plans being set up in the end.

Football creditors have nothing to do with the embargo, AFAIK. It is now literally on because of HMRC debt, and that has been the case for months.

Okay… confusing…. You’d think that as HMRC aren’t now after us every 5 minutes that this is because some kind of agreement is in place with them too. Hopefully we won’t have to think about it much longer.

 

[SUFCGoals]

I'm genuinely being serious btw Did Dackers score a header? if so it's completely gone from my mind

I remember his pen against Wealdstone and the Volley he scored at Roots Hall.

I remember him ducking every time he jumped for a header, he never used his height to his advantage

I don't think he did score a header

 

[Medway Blue]

I'm pretty sure last Thursday Tom L said the embargo would be lifted when all football related creditors - which include HMRC- were paid?

Maybe I am wrong I stand to be corrected if so ( it was nearly a week ago)

Maybe there have been some additional football creditors come out of the woodwork now then, but last I was aware, the only thing standing in the way of the embargo being lifted was the HMRC debt.

Okay… confusing…. You’d think that as HMRC aren’t now after us every 5 minutes that this is because some kind of agreement is in place with them too. Hopefully we won’t have to think about it much longer.

There is no agreement in place. We were a further several hundred thousands £s in debt to HMRC over and above the petition debt which was paid in October. This would normally have resulted in a new WUP within a few weeks of the last one being paid off, just like back in March/April, but the consortium have paid several installments to HMRC to keep them onside and to stave off a further WUP.

 

[Morty01]

Will embargo be lifted today or tomorrow?

 

[londonshrimper.]

London shrimper wrong about james Morton then?

We shall see..

Alfie Lewis? Or is this not happening anymore?

The plan was to get him in on trial. He's a free agent at the moment. It's not dead and he'd be keen on a move to the club.

Diego De Girolamo should be added to the list.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712532207468777826

As should Luke Jenkins too:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726740429050142932

Hearing interest in another player too. Watch this space

 

[BoyWonder2]

Maybe there have been some additional football creditors come out of the woodwork now then, but last I was aware, the only thing standing in the way of the embargo being lifted was the HMRC debt.


There is no agreement in place. We were a further several hundred thousands £s in debt to HMRC over and above the petition debt which was paid in October. This would normally have resulted in a new WUP within a few weeks of the last one being paid off, just like back in March/April, but the consortium have paid several installments to HMRC to keep them onside and to stave off a further WUP.

I’ve heard there is still money outstanding to football creditors, but you are spot on with HMRC, that is another huge bill.

 

[Holy Joe]

Priority should be centre forward - centre backs, midfielders we're currently coping

 

[londonshrimper.]

Priority should be centre forward - centre backs, midfielders we're currently coping

To be fair we're desperately missing a player like Miley in midfield.

The priority is a centre-forward. This is from last month:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728841825811935632

*14 goals in 20 games now.

 

[GNH]

Maybe there have been some additional football creditors come out of the woodwork now then, but last I was aware, the only thing standing in the way of the embargo being lifted was the HMRC debt.


There is no agreement in place. We were a further several hundred thousands £s in debt to HMRC over and above the petition debt which was paid in October. This would normally have resulted in a new WUP within a few weeks of the last one being paid off, just like back in March/April, but the consortium have paid several installments to HMRC to keep them onside and to stave off a further WUP.

This is the bit I find hard to understand.

Are we saying that every single other club governed by the NL is 100% up to date with all football related debts, including not owing a penny to the HMRC?

I find that rather unlikely given the obvious financial issues sweeping the game currently, if that's the case then we are being treated differently to other clubs in the same position and being unfairly punished.

I know we are a basket case with a history of non compliance but you can't treat teams differently because of that.

 

[Holy Joe]

To be fair we're desperately missing a player like Miley in midfield.

The priority is a centre-forward. This is from last month:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728841825811935632

*14 goals in 20 games now.

If embargo isn't lifted this week then we'd need someone that fits the non contract etc requirements - guessing he doesn't fit that.

I think Husin, Coker and Wes have done very well without Miley. It'd be quite harsh on one of them to have to drop out once Miley is fit

 

[Medway Blue]

This is the bit I find hard to understand.

Are we saying that every single other club governed by the NL is 100% up to date with all football related debts, including not owing a penny to the HMRC?

I find that rather unlikely given the obvious financial issues sweeping the game currently, if that's the case then we are being treated differently to other clubs in the same position and being unfairly punished.

I know we are a basket case with a history of non compliance but you can't treat teams differently because of that.

I find it very difficult to believe we're being treated differently to how any other club would be treated. I've no doubt the club would be taking legal action immediately if they found out that was the case.

I think it's more likely that other clubs have payment plans in place with other clubs, and TTP agreements in place with HMRC for historic tax debt, but manage to avoid missing installments like we kept doing.

 

[ColinMorrisWalksOnWater]

Hasn't Amantchi gone to Bromley last week?

Also hearing they are sniffing around Waldron, so we had better move quickly on him.

 

[Westcliff Shrimper]

If embargo isn't lifted this week then we'd need someone that fits the non contract etc requirements - guessing he doesn't fit that.

I think Husin, Coker and Wes have done very well without Miley. It'd be quite harsh on one of them to have to drop out once Miley is fit

I think actually having more than four midfielders so we can rotate and make substitutes is less harsh! Can't believe that any of them aren't carrying a knock or eight...

 

[Jai]

If embargo isn't lifted this week then we'd need someone that fits the non contract etc requirements - guessing he doesn't fit that.

I think Husin, Coker and Wes have done very well without Miley. It'd be quite harsh on one of them to have to drop out once Miley is fit

We're really struggling in the transition since Miley got injured, particularly away from home. Altrincham and Gateshead were prime examples. I suspect his presence at Boreham Wood would also not have harmed things, as that was a very physical game.

 

[Holy Joe]

I think actually having more than four midfielders so we can rotate and make substitutes is less harsh! Can't believe that any of them aren't carrying a knock or eight...

If any of them are carrying a knock fair enough but I'd hope no pro footballer is happy sitting on the bench or worse not in the squad when fit.

Ultimately my post was about priorities and disputing we were really missing Miley - and id maintain that striker is the position most in need right now - given we have no fit players in that position. And I'd also maintain that we haven't missed Miley half as much as I thought we would when he first got injured.

 

[Hadleigh-shrimper]

Think we’d all know if it had . Patience.

True just want it done lol.

To be fair we're desperately missing a player like Miley in midfield.

The priority is a centre-forward. This is from last month:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728841825811935632

*14 goals in 20 games now.

I wasn’t saying you was wrong btw just asking by the smiffy chart .( I see he’s now green). Just get this thing lifted .