Transfer News and Gossip Transfer Rumours Thread 2023-24 (Part 2 - Back in Business. Oh no we’re not)

[BriggBlue]

Any idea how much we paid for cards?

He's played 76 times for us and got about 1 in 3 so that sort of transfer fee would represent good business by us now he is at his peak

 

[stewart]

wouldnt like him to leave but will understand , good luck to the lad its every footballers dream to play as high as possible . 125k with a decent sell on clause would help in recruitment also. Used to think he was made of cardboard but he certainly has proved me wrong .

 

[Leeboy]

They - AFC Wimbledon - are also after Sutton striker Harry Smith:

AFC Wimbledon keen on summer transfer for Sutton striker

Johnnie Jackson’s side are one of a number of teams that have expressed interest in signing the striker this summer.

londonnewsonline.co.uk

 

[Strykr]

Thought it be bit more then that tbh he got 2 years left on contract too I would say at least £300k ?

300k? we could get 120 Finley Wilkinsons for that!

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Any idea how much we paid for cards?

He's played 76 times for us and got about 1 in 3 so that sort of transfer fee would represent good business by us now he is at his peak

There are three elements that we may have paid for him.

1. Transfer fee to Chorley - this was undisclosed. According to our accounts we amortised £25,961 on player registrations 21-22. Based on two and a half year contracts and assuming evenly attributed that would suggest around £65k was spent. I think we paid undisclosed fees for four players during this period: Cardwell, Husin, Kensdale and Powell. Cardwell is likely the biggest of this given his position and how integral he is to Maher’s plans.
2. Agents fee - we spent £28,814 on agents fees during the period we signed Cardwell and he was our biggest signing during this period.
3. Signing on fee - I seem to recall we beat off several other teams to get his signature so I’d guess this was a five figure amount, spread over the life of his contract and payable immediately if he leaves without submitting a transfer request.

My best guess is that it probably cost around half of what we’d get if that £125k release fee was accurate and it would cost the other half of it to replace him.

Anyone know if Chorley had a sell-on for him?

 

[overseas shrimper]

Every effort should be made to keeps Cards. I just hope the players are being updated on sale progress otherwise a few might jump ship.. good news is it seems like he is still in Southend! (Saw him on the seafront yesterday)

Progress?

 

[Ricey]

There are three elements that we may have paid for him.

1. Transfer fee to Chorley - this was undisclosed. According to our accounts we amortised £25,961 on player registrations 21-22. Based on two and a half year contracts and assuming evenly attributed that would suggest around £65k was spent. I think we paid undisclosed fees for four players during this period: Cardwell, Husin, Kensdale and Powell. Cardwell is likely the biggest of this given his position and how integral he is to Maher’s plans.
2. Agents fee - we spent £28,814 on agents fees during the period we signed Cardwell and he was our biggest signing during this period.
3. Signing on fee - I seem to recall we beat off several other teams to get his signature so I’d guess this was a five figure amount, spread over the life of his contract and payable immediately if he leaves without submitting a transfer request.

My best guess is that it probably cost around half of what we’d get if that £125k release fee was accurate and it would cost the other half of it to replace him.

Anyone know if Chorley had a sell-on for him?

Isn’t it common practice for most clubs these days? Unless we paid a higher fee to stop them putting that in. Anyone who doesn’t get a sell on clause in a contract is crazy.

 

[Tommy2holes]

Anyone know what the record fee paid for a national league player ie upfront not add ons at a later stage

 

[Callumturner22]

I have just seen that Tshimanga has been transfer listed from Peterborough he knows this league . Scored 7 in 16 for Boreham this season he may add something different to our attack. But probs be tricky as reckon clubs in league two may take a punt .

 

[Linda Loan Shark]

Anyone know what the record fee paid for a national league player ie upfront not add ons at a later stage

Jamie Vardy was bought by Leicester from non league Fleetwood for £1m. He didnt do too bad!

 

[BriggBlue]

I have just seen that Tshimanga has been transfer listed from Peterborough he knows this league . Scored 7 in 16 for Boreham this season he may add something different to our attack. But probs be tricky as reckon clubs in league two may take a punt .

I'm not convinced he's the player he was before his injury, he also smacks a little of a big name signing.

Is that really what we need?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm not convinced he's the player he was before his injury, he also smacks a little of a big name signing.

Is that really what we need?

All reasons why I can’t see his name being anywhere near our whiteboard.

If McCallum (who is an elderly big name signing at this level by our standards to be fair) and the lad from Worthing Ollie Pearce are on our list of targets, I can’t see any room in either the squad or budget for Tshimanga. I wouldn’t have him over either McCallum or Pearce since his injury.

We also have Waldron of course, and he’s going to show next season why we bought him I’m sure of it.

 

[Andy_S]

I'm not convinced he's the player he was before his injury, he also smacks a little of a big name signing.

Is that really what we need?

You say that but he did score 7 in 16 for a relegated team…. Not a bad return at all.

I don’t think he’ll be on our list, but more so because I think he’ll get a league move rather than him being looked at as not being worthwhile.

 

[londonshrimper.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790294815806009544

 

[kentblues]

All reasons why I can’t see his name being anywhere near our whiteboard.

If McCallum (who is an elderly big name signing at this level by our standards to be fair) and the lad from Worthing Ollie Pearce are on our list of targets, I can’t see any room in either the squad or budget for Tshimanga. I wouldn’t have him over either McCallum or Pearce since his injury.

We also have Waldron of course, and he’s going to show next season why we bought him I’m sure of it.

Reasonable take but remember if you need ywo you need to be after 5 or 6 potentially. However positive the sweet nothings from the player and agent they may at the same time be clambering into bed with someone else. Tshimanga is 26 so a good age so we might well tentatively enquire but I also suspect ££ expectation will rule it out as well as potential L2 interest.

 

[kentblues]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790294815806009544

Initial reaction is we are desperate for an attacking midfielder so why would we be after yet another defensively minded one? But then 17 goals is more than our entire CM contribute in a season combined. Then I read:

"Defender Siju has played for a number of our clubs- and a number of others. His list includes Westfield, Northwood, Hayes & Yeading United, Tilbury and Witham Town- and he spent last season in the Pitching In Southern Premier with Leiston, for whom he has had two spells. He is known as a defender, but he's also played up front and in midfield, so is rather multifunctional!"

So perhaps then make more sense. That list would indicate a late developer/unpolished gem only visible to the likes of Mt. Still :-)!

 

[Rattus Norvegicus]

There is a (pretty rubbish) old saying that "there is no such thing as a bad player - they are just at the wrong level".

Or you could say that (some) players sink down the leagues until they get to a level where they start to shine ............ the skill seems to be in being able to spot whether such a player has then developed the ability to then start rising up the leagues again.

Certainly not something that I am capable of doing (although I did see Bogle playing non-league & thought he was worth a punt at the time).

And we have seen that some of these players may take some time before they are up to playing full time and at the speed required. That raises it's own issues when you are a team looking to be at the top end of the league.

Sorry if that all sounds negative but I feel we need to temper our enthusiasm with a bit of realism from time to time.

 

[kentblues]

There is a (pretty rubbish) old saying that "there is no such thing as a bad player - they are just at the wrong level".

Or you could say that (some) players sink down the leagues until they get to a level where they start to shine ............ the skill seems to be in being able to spot whether such a player has then developed the ability to then start rising up the leagues again.

Certainly not something that I am capable of doing (although I did see Bogle playing non-league & thought he was worth a punt at the time).

And we have seen that some of these players may take some time before they are up to playing full time and at the speed required. That raises it's own issues when you are a team looking to be at the top end of the league.

Sorry if that all sounds negative but I feel we need to temper our enthusiasm with a bit of realism from time to time.

Certainly means if coming from lower leagues it needs to be done in advance of pre-season as often they will have been part time. Missing pre-season as well is not a great start if they are to get up to speed and make a contribution quickly..

 

[Westcliff Shrimper]

Just thinking out loud; now that the National League has deemed seven subs can be named and five can be used within a game, I wonder whether a few more specialist players will be looked at rather than jack-of-all trades when only five can be used.

Would imagine three forward players would be named - slightly bigger, more specialised squad for next year? Maybe?

 

[kentblues]

Well straight away I would think

Sub keeper
at least 2 forwards (particularly given our high press) so fresh legs after 60/70
at least 1 CM (say 2)
a CB
a wide player

Easy to get to 7