The EU Referendum

[callan]

Amazes me that people think putting the word 'millionaire' in front of a Labour MPs name means something - most MPs are millionaires - that covers all parties. And it amazes me that Tory voters go on about Labour letting down the working class whilst voting for a party that has never made an convincing claims to care about the working class.

Which Tory voters are going on about this?

Has it not occurred to you that Labour have let the working class down repeatedly ?, and instead of coming to terms with this and doing something about it...it has decided to sneer, insult and lecture it's core vote.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Thats something others have said, trying to weave a little ambiguity into the wording.

Unfortunately this one cant be disputed



£350 million never actually true in the first place.

What is it with the NHS anyway. What makes the NHS the priority over everything else in the first place.

No, admittedly. That one's crystal clear. Probably realised their earlier mistake and made it more opaque with the bus!

I think the NHS was made the priority because it's reportedly at breaking point, but then, so is the care system and the pension system! Needs to be some really radical changes in the near future.

 

[Jam_Man]

Farage talking to Europe right now.

First asks Europe that they act in a grown up, mature and reasonable manner in negotiations, whilst in the next sentence telling them that havent ever had real jobs and done a days work.

Sigh, what an absolute moron and he is a laughing stock.

Can we get a real person in there asap to discuss with them please.

 

[Pubey]

Farage talking to Europe right now.

First asks Europe that they act in a grown up, mature and reasonable manner in negotiations, whilst in the next sentence telling them that havent ever had real jobs and done a days work.

Sigh, what an absolute moron and he is a laughing stock.

Can we get a real person in there asap to discuss with them please.

I assume he's just there as a regular MEP and in no other formal capacity.

Do agree with the rest of your post though!

 

[Gremlin]

I assume he's just there as a regular MEP and in no other formal capacity.

That's right, "only" there because he was democratically elected.

 

[Pubey]

That's right, "only" there because he was democratically elected.

Indeed, funny how one minute the leave campaign say Brussels law-makers are undemocratic bureaucrats, and the next minute he's there as a democratically elected representative.

 

[Gremlin]

Indeed, funny how one minute the leave campaign say Brussels law-makers are undemocratic bureaucrats, and the next minute he's there as a democratically elected representative.

The MEPs are obviously elected.

 

[Jam_Man]

We have over 70 MEPs.

Where can I vote that one of them speak instead of him?

 

[Pubey]

The MEPs are obviously elected.

Indeed, but that's not what the leave campaign tried to tell people.

 

[steveo]

Thats something others have said, trying to weave a little ambiguity into the wording.

Unfortunately this one cant be disputed



£350 million never actually true in the first place.

But the leave campaign would never have had any say as to where the money goes. They had no power, they wernt elected as a group. Did people believe LEAVE had some sort of say as to where this money goes?

 

[Supernaut]

We have over 70 MEPs.

Where can I vote that one of them speak instead of him?

34% turnout at the last election for MEPs.
I wonder how many of the 66% who stayed at home now regret it.

 

[callan]

Indeed, funny how one minute the leave campaign say Brussels law-makers are undemocratic bureaucrats, and the next minute he's there as a democratically elected representative.

Farage is an elected MEP, not a commissioner who is appointed. it is the Commission that proposes Laws, Directives and Legislation.

 

[Pubey]

But the leave campaign would never have had any say as to where the money goes. They had no power, they wernt elected as a group. Did people believe LEAVE had some sort of say as to where this money goes?

Of course they will have. Many have admitted it as well. Johnson is favourite to be the next PM and was a prominent face in the Leave campaign.

 

[londonblue]

But the leave campaign would never have had any say as to where the money goes. They had no power, they wernt elected as a group. Did people believe LEAVE had some sort of say as to where this money goes?

Unfortunately yes.

All I seem to be hearing from the Leavers is that we never voted for that reason, or that reason, or that reason. So what was it that you voted for?

 

[londonblue]

Farage is an elected MEP, not a commissioner who is appointed. it is the Commission that proposes Laws, Directives and Legislation.

None of which can become law without the UK's say so. Or at least couldn't...

 

[callan]

None of which can become law without the UK's say so. Or at least couldn't...

My understanding is that EU law over rides UK law.

It is EU law that has primacy.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

That's just it though...you don't understand it.

Ha! I'm lucky to live in a country which is also "intensly relaxed" about immigration too-whether it's from the EU or South American countries.

That's because of the EU, not because of Brexit.

You've got it the wrong way around again,old chap.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Its not convincing claims people want. Its action. You and your impotent Labour party need to stop hiding behind the 'we need to listen' excuse.

So lets see if you ***, Labours top poster on the Zone, can come up with one idea that would improve immigration. I'd like three or four but I'll settle for just one.

Your big chance to speak on the big Subject, so come on don't be shy, lets hear you views.

If you want to ask me a question then pose it as a question rather than a put down.

Have a history of taking on board what people say rather than twisting people's words out of all recognition.

And ask a question that makes sense. What does 'improving immigration' even mean? I don't think you actually know what you are asking, you just think you have an opportunity to make someone else look stupid but you are not yet sure how.

 

[callan]

Ha! I'm lucky to live in a country which is also "intensly relaxed" about immigration too-whether it's from the EU or South American countries.



You've got it the wrong way around again,old chap.

Perhaps with this intense relaxation that Spain has, you would care to explain why it has Razor wire fences to keep migrants out?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/08/melilla-fences-spain-morocco-migration-europe

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Couldn't agree more on the last point. Why is everyone latching onto this concept that the money should be going into the NHS? How about schools? Transport? Welfare? (Just kidding on the last one)

The question of why the NHS should be prioritised is one to ask Johnson and Gove - they won a referendum with the fact that Britain would have an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS. They can justify that if you ask them, I assume....