The Brown out bridgade, a question??

[IloveShrimp]

Good piece yogi. Yeas I see the point of Brown knew what he was getting himself into here but then it appears to me we were literally his only option . It has been mentioned many other clubs turned him down. Possibly many will not agree my choice would be Peter Taylor. Ok his record at club level at the top end is not good but he knows this level of the game well and has promoted many lower level teams. He is a local man, A blues club man, Out of work at the mo but I guess he wouldn't come cheap. I think it is also the case he fell out with Ron when he was allegedly led to believe he would be coming back after taking many training sessions but a sudden change of heart saw Ron appoint Rob Newman instead. Think Spud felt let down by that.

OMG please no! He has already destroyed a decent team and swapped two of our best players for a donkey centre back from Watford when he managed here before! :omg:

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Phil Brown was brought in to succeed where Paul Sturrock had apparently failed, that is to gain us promotion. I didn't expect miracles straight away but I certainly didn't expect him to be presiding over a relegation dogfight. In another month or two, if that is where we're at, I would expect serious questions to be asked. It certainly seems as though we're heading that way and a stop to this recent form needs to be brought about sooner than later.

 

[Southend Pier]

Tilson had no players, he couldnt even field a team with 4 defenders in it, players werent paid for months on end.

There has been no confirmation from any reliable source that wages are actually unpaid and normally we hear it from multiple places when that happens.

If you have factual information that players have not been paid then share it as we arent hearing anything from anywhere and you continue to use this as a reason why Brown cant win a football match.

What I said. Tillson struggled in his last season because of those problems. restricted from above.

 

[Southend Pier]

OMG please no! He has already destroyed a decent team and swapped two of our best players for a donkey centre back from Watford when he managed here before! :omg:

Not everyone can win them all. But he did promote Hull, Brighton and Gillingham.

 

[Southend Pier]

To the member who gave me red and saying no more excuses stop giving Brown a free ride. Can't you read? I'am sceptical that he is the right man. Stated. He hasn't helped himself with his public outbursts which now total 3. Stated. So I'm not making excuses and as a result not giving him a free ride which I've been accused off. Please read.:stunned:

 

[Dick Bate's Protege]

Moyes will be available by January.

 

[leeblue]

To add another question who would be the new manager.......

 

[chapperzUK]

To add another question who would be the new manager.......

whoever is desperate enough to want another shot at being a manager .... Iain Dowie anyone? :'(

 

[Southend Pier]

I hear Wignall is out of work.:smiles:And to some posters on here, please:smiles:

 

[Jam_Man]

What I said. Tillson struggled in his last season because of those problems. restricted from above.

For petes sake.

Tilson was restricted from above, he couldnt sign players, he couldnt field 4 defenders. Players were not paid for MONTHS. He didnt even have an assistant manager.


Brown has brought in 9 players and has a backroom team like we have not seen before.

Brown is not restricted in any way comparable to how Tilson was.

To the member who gave me red and saying no more excuses stop giving Brown a free ride. Can't you read? I'am sceptical that he is the right man. Stated. He hasn't helped himself with his public outbursts which now total 3. Stated. So I'm not making excuses and as a result not giving him a free ride which I've been accused off. Please read.:stunned:

Yes I can read, I read constantly you making excuses about wages which no one has actually confirmed are unpaid and how he is being restricted from above, even though he still can bring a player in.

Brown has the tools available to win some games, Im not even saying he should be pushing for promotion, but a couple of wins in 6 games is surely the minimum we should expect.

 

[Southend Pier]

Jam calm down. I know Brown isn't restricted as Tilson was. Yes Brown has brought in 9 but how many did he to choose that 9 from with the limited finances. And I ask once again why hasn't that 20th space in the squad been filled? wonder why? Blimey they do say getting aggressive quickly is a sign of losin an argument or feelin too much heat. Jam:smiles:

 

[Jam_Man]

Jam calm down. I know Brown isn't restricted as Tilson was. Yes Brown has brought in 9 but how many did he to choose that 9 from with the limited finances. And I ask once again why hasn't that 20th space in the squad been filled? wonder why? Blimey they do say getting aggressive quickly is a sign of losin an argument or feelin too much heat. Jam:smiles:

Where on earth am I getting aggressive ?. :dim: Bizarre comment.

What I am is fed up of hearing the pathetic excuses and the lazy "Ron Martin is to blame" reasons, when Brown has a squad of decent players to pick from and some people, especially you, seem to want to blame everyone else rather than the manager. Just as bad as Brown blaming everyone else.

So come one then, enlighten us why he cant sign another player ? Love to hear the reason. We seemed able to extend Woodrows loan easily enough.

Were Morcambe signing players from Real Madrid or something ? Because I think all League Two teams struggle to attract quality players.

 

[Southend Pier]

To put it clearer. with the restricted finances, From how many did Brown select his chosen 9 from? Not a lot In terms of quality I can tell you. But yes Not as restricted as Tilson in terms of personmell but certainly Brown has been restricted in terms of quality not quanity like Tilson was. Brown has got it wrong off the pitch.

 

[chapperzUK]

Where on earth am I getting aggressive ?. :dim:

Your bio says your location is Southend, so I'm guessing there :smiles:

 

[Southend Pier]

Erm you sayin for petes sake. normally a term used when beginning to lose your rag. A sign in general. Morecambe? Higher than us in the League.

 

[Jam_Man]

Erm you sayin for petes sake. normally a term used when beginning to lose your rag. A sign in general. Morecambe? Higher than us in the League.

Oh yeah really aggressive.

Or is it a sign of exasperation from so many ridiculous comments?

And what o n earth is that comment about Morecambe supposed to mean !? Yes they are higher in the league with less resources than us, so that only backs up my argument Brown should be doing better with what we have, because Morcambe are hardly buying 100K players.

To put it clearer. with the restricted finances, From how many did Brown select his chosen 9 from? Not a lot In terms of quality I can tell you. But yes Not as restricted as Tilson in terms of personmell but certainly Brown has been restricted in terms of quality not quanity like Tilson was. Brown has got it wrong off the pitch.

Where did Morcambe buy players from, or any of the other League Two sides who are skint and have to rely on freebies and loans just like us.

Nearly every team at this level has restricted finances.

 

[Southend Pier]

Jam just a fun figure of speech. Didn't really mean anything by aggressive.:smiles:

 

[Napster]

Tilson used less than 20 players to get promotion..

Dave Smith used even less.

I'd have Tilly back.

 

[united we stand]

Jam calm down. I know Brown isn't restricted as Tilson was. Yes Brown has brought in 9 but how many did he to choose that 9 from with the limited finances. And I ask once again why hasn't that 20th space in the squad been filled? wonder why? Blimey they do say getting aggressive quickly is a sign of losin an argument or feelin too much heat. Jam:smiles:

did that come from your management course:winking:

 

[* ORM *]

It's not as if he joined pre-season is it. He had an opportunity to assess current squad and bring in new faces, albeit with restrictions. I'm not a fan of the revolving door at all so see no need to press panic buttons. At the same time it doesn't matter how 'good' a squad is getting sucked into a relegation battle is not something that can be overlooked. We need to pick up wins and soon. Drop Corr into central defence and fill that 20th slot with Kevin Maher. There that's a good start.