Suggestion to the North Bank today

[southend4ever]

I am sure everything will be fine and dandy if the team have a successful season. That's a pretty safe recipe, I'd say.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Now tell me, if the chanting on Saturday afternoon had been of Bentley, Clohessey, Cresswell, Corr, Eastwood, Tomlin, Assombalonga, or Reeves' names would we even be having this discussion? I would say probably not.
A chant was started, with good intention, to give Straker a bit of a boost; the fact that this then took hold and was then repeated for so long was out of control of those who started it, however, this then turns, in the heads of those hearing it as sarcastic because it goes on for a while.

TBH, I didn't really notice it, until there were cheers every time he touched the ball. Now that to me was sarcastic rather than supportive. Much the same way Smith got cheered a few games ago every time he kicked the ball from a backpass.

 

[GregStarz]

TBV is a great idea, but there's a lot that should be changed to move on.

*Needs more flags and banners
*Needs some kind of membership scheme, you can then allow the right fan in and reject the fans that aren't supportive etc
* Hold regular meetings at a venue to discuss things
*No negativity to players
*Less goading the away fans

I don't know if you saw Colchesters highlights on the FLS but they now have better banners than us, we need decent home-made banners made and decent chants.

This is my opinion and if you want to move on in a big scale then go to a Crystal Palace game and watch the holmesdale ultras (I know TBV aren't ultras) but that's how you do it properly. They also have a website

 

[E for B and Billy Best]

Please no flyers! Oh dear, if The North Bank in 2013 needs to be told (by the self-appointed once again) how to support? There is a problem.

I cannot imagine too many other clubs that require advice on what to do. Incredible when you think about it. Pathetic too.

I think TBV needs to forget both the abysmal chanting against Morecambe and the "went missing" at Wembley over the Summer and come back refreshed and as one for 2013/14. Drop the "look at me I am the leader" ego and get back to supporting Southend United.

7 pages and at last a post that makes sense

 

[North Banker]

I think the problem here is that 'TBV' are being blamed for all the problems with our support, yet some people seem to think TBV is Scott & Co, some think it is the North Bank and some think it is all Southend supporters. Who are we really blaming here?

We, and most other clubs in the country, have always had problems with 'kids' coming to matches to abuse away fans/players etc. TBV was set up to enhance our support in a positive, family-friendly manner and eventually led to us returning to the North Bank which did just that, however it has also given the less friendly elements of our support a voice and this is starting to be abused to the distaste of the rest of the ground.

Now whilst it seems a new organisation has been necessary to improve our support, is it their job to regulate it? It is their fault that a minority of our support can't behave themselves?

 

[jassyfa1]

The idea of a football supporter is to support their team. Wether it's to sing and chant to help encourage their team or applaud when they are playing well.
Now it's been highly documented that there are pockets around Roots Hall who pick on individual players and this will always continue. If a player is playing badly or not a fan favourite are they really going to play better if they are being slated from the stands? If TBV are supporters of Southend. Then they should all get behind the team for 90 minutes. Forget about individual players and little ditties about each player and get behind the team as a whole. Forget about the opposing supporters, have you paid your money to look at a bunch of away supporters or paid to watch and get behind your team.

 

[North Banker]

Forget about the opposing supporters, have you paid your money to look at a bunch of away supporters or paid to watch and get behind your team.

What if they have paid their money to look at a bunch of away supporters? These are the people you are talking about, so the 'you paid to watch the team so get behind them' argument doesn't work.

 

[jassyfa1]

What if they have paid their money to look at a bunch of away supporters? These are the people you are talking about, so the 'you paid to watch the team so get behind them' argument doesn't work.

If they have paid their hard owned cash to look at away supporters, perhaps you should ask yourself is this the sort of supporters that TBV wants to be associated with?

 

[North Banker]

If they have paid their hard owned cash to look at away supporters, perhaps you should ask yourself is this the sort of supporters that TBV wants to be associated with?

Of course not. But how do you propose we un-associate them?

 

[dingleydangley]

I don't mind people paying to watch something other than the football. In fact, an entire section of blank-faced, emotionless and straight-backed supporters in matching cardigans staring at the away section would be a sight to behold. Would the Trust stump up for the cardigans?

 

[Supa Shrimpa]

Perhaps if the performances on the pitch were better, people wouldn't feel the need to watch the away supporters all the time. Just a thought !!

 

[jassyfa1]

Of course not. But how do you propose we un-associate them?

If they are being abusive to away fans, simply report them. It's no longer the 1980's.
Also as the percentage of supporters are male perhaps you should advise them to spend their money in the Cliff pub instead of football where they can spend all day looking at men.

 

[shrimperjon]

The sad thing about this thread is that when I first started watching Southend in 1981 with my dad we went in the west stand or on the magnificent south bank, I wasn't allowed in the north bank for years, however, when I did it was fantastic, the numbers in there were never massive but it was our end and it felt like there were twice as many fans in there, there was the usual banter but because the away fans were generally the other end it never affected our ability to get behind the team. The focus was generally on our team. Why this can't be the case now I don't know, but certainly better segregation would maybe help.

 

[TrueBlue]

I think the problem here is that 'TBV' are being blamed for all the problems with our support, yet some people seem to think TBV is Scott & Co, some think it is the North Bank and some think it is all Southend supporters. Who are we really blaming here?

We, and most other clubs in the country, have always had problems with 'kids' coming to matches to abuse away fans/players etc. TBV was set up to enhance our support in a positive, family-friendly manner and eventually led to us returning to the North Bank which did just that, however it has also given the less friendly elements of our support a voice and this is starting to be abused to the distaste of the rest of the ground.

Now whilst it seems a new organisation has been necessary to improve our support, is it their job to regulate it? It is their fault that a minority of our support can't behave themselves?

It will all end up being my fault in the end

 

[Roots Hall Flare]

It will all end up being my fault in the end

It always is.

 

[DTS]

TBV is a great idea, but there's a lot that should be changed to move on.

*Needs more flags and banners
*Needs some kind of membership scheme, you can then allow the right fan in and reject the fans that aren't supportive etc
* Hold regular meetings at a venue to discuss things
*No negativity to players
*Less goading the away fans

I don't know if you saw Colchesters highlights on the FLS but they now have better banners than us, we need decent home-made banners made and decent chants.

This is my opinion and if you want to move on in a big scale then go to a Crystal Palace game and watch the holmesdale ultras (I know TBV aren't ultras) but that's how you do it properly. They also have a website

This is sounding more like a school trip and less like a group of football supporters.

 

[OldBlueLady]

The sad thing about this thread is that when I first started watching Southend in 1981 with my dad we went in the west stand or on the magnificent south bank, I wasn't allowed in the north bank for years, however, when I did it was fantastic, the numbers in there were never massive but it was our end and it felt like there were twice as many fans in there, there was the usual banter but because the away fans were generally the other end it never affected our ability to get behind the team. The focus was generally on our team. Why this can't be the case now I don't know, but certainly better segregation would maybe help.

Actually, there may be a point here.....I never remember seeing kids in the old North Bank back in the 70s. Can some of those who used it back then advise if it was adult only? If so, that may be worth some consideration.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Actually, there may be a point here.....I never remember seeing kids in the old North Bank back in the 70s. Can some of those who used it back then advise if it was adult only? If so, that may be worth some consideration.

They'd go down the front or to the side, the middle section would be packed and rowdy even if the rest of the stand was relatively empty, but they backed the team, only stick/banter was with the opposition keeper who gave stick back.

 

[McNasty]

As I said in a thread ages ago, in the late 60s if anyone abused the players from the North Bank there was always a "bigger" lad who would "advise" you not to do it.

 

[Supa Shrimpa]

Can we put a few "Bigger lads" in the East, West and South Upper then, please. The personal abuse some of the players get from there, when we aren't playing well, is disgusting.