SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

sufcfed · Jul 21, 2023

Westcliff DGS said:
Bridge and Ralph out of contract so guess they are not unless they become non contract players

Bridge deserves a guard of honour if he steps out for us in friendlies whilst out of contract. Shows how loyal the guy has been. Guaranteed he must have had offers elsewhere

West Stand · Jul 21, 2023

Jai said:
We will still hold their registration. I suppose whether they play would be up to them - they may not want to risk injury if they want to keep their options open.

Will be very interesting to see who plays tomorrow.

Not sure you are right or come to that wrong on the point about being registered. Players out of contract and who haven’t signed new terms for instance probably won’t be registered certainly not as contract players and bearing in mind that non contract players are usually “ playing for enjoyment ( a term applied to non contract players ) .

Playing in a friendly is one thing but allowing actually signing registration forms are a whole different kettle of fish

shrimper61 · Jul 21, 2023

Westcliff DGS said:
Bridge and Ralph out of contract so guess they are not unless they become non contract players

Ralph's one year extension was triggered by the club, so he is part of the squad for coming season.

Sudbury_Shrimpers · Jul 21, 2023

Farmer Fossett said:
So realistically when is everyone expecting D day?
I assume National League will only give us another week..

We have until Friday 28th July, or they will throw us out of the league.

Hadleigh-shrimper · Jul 21, 2023

shrimper61 said:
Ralph's one year extension was triggered by the club, so he is part of the squad for coming season.

Impossible under a embargo

Westcliff DGS · Jul 21, 2023

sufcfed said:
Bridge deserves a guard of honour if he steps out for us in friendlies whilst out of contract. Shows how loyal the guy has been. Guaranteed he must have had offers elsewhere

I agree

kentblues · Jul 21, 2023

Westcliff DGS said:
Bridge and Ralph out of contract so guess they are not unless they become non contract players

We will hold their registration (that would only change if they signed elsewhere). So whilst out of contract still registered. The question was we had to have minimum 16 registered players as of tomorrow? We would have the 14 contracted players plus I contracted players whose registration we still hold- I.e. Bridge, Ralph and JD came to mind. Probably one or two others.

Westcliff DGS · Jul 21, 2023

kentblues said:
We will hold their registration (that would only change if they signed elsewhere). So whilst out of contract still registered. The question was we had to have minimum 16 registered players as of tomorrow? We would have the 14 registered players plus I contracted players whose registration we still hold- I.e. Bridge, Ralph and JD came to mind. Probably one or two others.

Fair enough, But if they dont have a contract those players may not want to play and you cant blame them

Spaceman Spiff · Jul 21, 2023

901 pages of this so far - what’s the odds we get over 1000 before the success / failure of this rescue mission is complete?

Hadleigh-shrimper · Jul 21, 2023

Spaceman Spiff said:
901 pages of this so far - what’s the odds we get over 1000 before the success / failure of this rescue mission is complete?

1/100

kentblues · Jul 21, 2023

Westcliff DGS said:
Fair enough, But if they dont have a contract those players may not want to play and you cant blame them

True but trialists are in the same boat. And they know they have offers, just can’t sign yet. Up to them of course but suspect they will play although wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t

CanveyCastle · Jul 21, 2023

Spaceman Spiff said:
901 pages of this so far - what’s the odds we get over 1000 before the success / failure of this rescue mission is complete?

and over 2,000,000 views.

Nosey bunch of buggers :Thumbs up:

Spaceman Spiff · Jul 21, 2023

CanveyCastle said:
and over 2,000,000 views.

Nosey bunch of buggers

You were 1,000,000 of those weren’t you?

Westcliff DGS · Jul 21, 2023

kentblues said:
True but trialists are in the same boat. And they know they have offers, just can’t sign yet. Up to them of course but suspect they will play although wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t

Don’t think we are allowed triallists someone mentioned that a while ago

From what I’ve heard bridge has offers elsewhere (one from a L2team) but is holding on in hope for us. If I were him i. Am not sure I would ply on a non contract basis which has far different terms to a contracted player, salary and insurance wise i am led to believe

Boreham Blue · Jul 21, 2023

Hadleigh-shrimper said:
Impossible under a embargo

Well only one of you can be right

West Stand · Jul 21, 2023

Westcliff DGS said:
Don’t think we are allowed triallists someone mentioned that a while ago

From what I’ve heard bridge has offers elsewhere (one from a L2team) but is holding on in hope for us. If I were him i. Am not sure I would ply on a non contract basis which has far different terms to a contracted player, salary and insurance wise i am led to believe

It gets very complex but but the embargo makes this even more difficult to navigate.
Players turning out in a PSF don’t have to be registered but the embargo kicks in when it comes to offering players terms.
Players under contract can effectively walk any time they want and whilst yes they can be paid but technically only expenses and if those expenses are In round sum terms such a £150 then those payments are subjected to PAYE &NIC .
As for insurance there wouldn’t be any issue ( that is if the club’s insurance is up to date )
If however this goes on into late August it will become even more complex

Shrimper · Jul 21, 2023

NL meeting today? Any truth to that

stortford · Jul 21, 2023

Just noticed on a BBC story about Newport extending their lease on Rodney Parade "the Football League will require clubs to have a 10- year lease on home grounds from 2025-26".

class · Jul 21, 2023

Shrimper said:
NL meeting today? Any truth to that

I believe so....

West Stand · Jul 21, 2023

Jai said:
We will still hold their registration. I suppose whether they play would be up to them - they may not want to risk injury if they want to keep their options open.

Will be very interesting to see who plays tomorrow.

As I say gets real complex for instance a contracted player wanting to become a non contract player at the same club has to re register

6.1.2
In the event of a Player changing his status with the same Club either from Contract to Non-Contract or from Non-Contract to Contract then that Player must sign a new registration form (which is to be retained by the Club) complete a new registration process via the Online Player Registration System, and be re- registered.