SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[AlfaShrimper]

Please KIMURA hurry up... I cannot take another second of this rat

 

[JCB]

Classic Ron. Bet he’s gagging to sell us off to some chancer from Colchester rather than Kimura

 

[Barling Magna]

Yeah, sounds like we're going to have to cope with sheepy folk owners who are estate agents. Hmmm..........................................

 

[Yer Blues]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the issue with the estate agents?

I thought the narrative was "anyone but Ron"?

I personally see it as a good thing that there is more interest.

The next few weeks will be tough to take with players leaving, no signings etc.

I think it'll all be OK in the end.

 

[AlfaShrimper]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the issue with the estate agents?

I thought the narrative was "anyone but Ron"?

I personally see it as a good thing that there is more interest.

The next few weeks will be tough to take with players leaving, no signings etc.

I think it'll all be OK in the end.

I think it's more the fact the conclusion is gonna take more time.. time we do not have

 

[Smiffy]

There was mention on here or Twitter I think that a Colchester estate agent, perhaps with American backing could be one of the other interested parties.

A quick google throws up amongst other smaller ones, Jon Hunt (Previous owner of Foxtons) @Shrimpergarry mentioned him earlier and also Paul Smith (Owner of SpicerHaart). Not sure either would be interested in our club, but with both having a big interest in property, who knows. A rich version of Ron?

Just bumping this from Friday as it may indeed have legs now CP has confirmed...

 

[SHRIMPERPETER]

Haart worth £64million apparently

 

[Yer Blues]

Yeah, sounds like we're going to have to cope with sheepy folk owners who are estate agents. Hmmm..........................................

Why does it matter where they are from or based?

No thank you. Anyone dealing in property will not have any long term investment in the club, only interest in stealing Ron's money making project. From Colchester too.

Apart from someone like Ron Martin's long lost twin, I cannot think of a worse potential owner.

Ron isn't and wasn't an estate agent. Not sure I see the correlation.

Estate Agents ! FFS !

Out if interest, what's the beef with estate agents? If they have enough money to do the deal, it would suggest they are very successful at what they do?

Classic Ron. Bet he’s gagging to sell us off to some chancer from Colchester rather than Kimura

Some chancer. Interesting phrasing.

A chancer who has enough cash to buy a soccer club and potentially a stadium development. Sounds like the sort if chancer we should be speaking to.

 

[Yer Blues]

I think it's more the fact the conclusion is gonna take more time.. time we do not have

Says who?

Next court appearance is 12.07.23

It's not listed as final either so at worst could tag on another couple of weeks to that.

Like it or not, he owns the club and is entitled to get the best deal he can.

 

[Fairport]

After having a brief look at estate agents in Colchester they seem to be either branches of big chains which also have offices in Southend and elsewhere or what look like small family owned businesses. Can't see anyone who looks to be a big player. Mind you, Ron was and still is a small time operator so I suppose you can't rule anyone out. The saga drags on.

 

[Yer Blues]

After having a brief look at estate agents in Colchester they seem to be either branches of big chains which also have offices in Southend and elsewhere or what look like small family owned businesses. Can't see anyone who looks to be a big player. Mind you, Ron was and still is a small time operator so I suppose you can't rule anyone out. The saga drags on.

Read this.

There was mention on here or Twitter I think that a Colchester estate agent, perhaps with American backing could be one of the other interested parties.

A quick google throws up amongst other smaller ones, Jon Hunt (Previous owner of Foxtons) @Shrimpergarry mentioned him earlier and also Paul Smith (Owner of SpicerHaart). Not sure either would be interested in our club, but with both having a big interest in property, who knows. A rich version of Ron?

 

[AlfaShrimper]

Says who?

Next court appearance is 12.07.23

It's not listed as final either so at worst could tag on another couple of weeks to that.

Like it or not, he owns the club and is entitled to get the best deal he can.

No we absolutely cannot. Players contracts done in 2 weeks. Management need to start making signings and getting ready for the start of the season on the fifth of August.

12 of July is a disaster if we are still in the same position

 

[JAL]

Understandable that sales of businesses and how big it can be with the stadium land and training grounds included in the deal can take time, but can’t help but feel this sale is being dragged on too much. Yes large business sales take a long time but we’re a football club, football moves at a very fast pace and before you know it contracts are expiring, pre-season is starting and we’re not even prepared even a slightest due to the embargo and the sale holding all the plans up.

All good and well telling people to have patience but it just feels like if we want to be going back up the ladder and be competitive, this sale urgently needs to be completed before the 1st July.

 

[Blue Yonder]

Why does it matter where they are from or based?



Ron isn't and wasn't an estate agent. Not sure I see the correlation.


Out if interest, what's the beef with estate agents? If they have enough money to do the deal, it would suggest they are very successful at what they do?



Some chancer. Interesting phrasing.

A chancer who has enough cash to buy a soccer club and potentially a stadium development. Sounds like the sort if chancer we should be speaking to.

Historically I think it’s fair to say Estate Agents and Property developers owning football clubs has not gone well and generally they’ve been more interested in the money to be made from the property than the well being of the football club. A generalisation I know but the number of stadiums around Essex from my youth that are now housing estates or warehousing as a result of property guys or Estate agents being involved and the clubs either folding or merging makes me very uneasy about this. Local blokes with an attachment to the club through history and extended family sounds a whole lot better proposition to me.

 

[Yer Blues]

No we absolutely cannot. Players contracts done in 2 weeks. Management need to start making signings and getting ready for the start of the season on the fifth of August.

12 of July is a disaster if we are still in the same position

Respectfully, it's not a disaster.

Will it undoubtedly affect this upcoming season? Yes.

Is it time to look at the bigger picture, where we have a sustainable football club and have the chance to be optimistic for years to come? Yes more so.

We as fans need to start looking at the bigger picture.

Yes, this season might be a bit ****. Yeah, bridge might not hang around forever.

But the bigger prize is having a club so support for decades to come, not missing out on Andrew Dallas or 3 largely injured players leaving.

I'm currently 41 with a nearly 16 year old daughter. Should she choose to have children, I want the opportunity to take my grandkids to watch our club.

If it means another rough season on the pitch, so be it.

 

[Medway Blue]

No we absolutely cannot. Players contracts done in 2 weeks. Management need to start making signings and getting ready for the start of the season on the fifth of August.

12 of July is a disaster if we are still in the same position

I keep saying this though. In the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

Losing some of our players, having to put up with consolidation next season and pushing back the promotion bid by a season......frustrating, no doubt.

But as long as that cretin and his family is gone, and the sale has been done properly and not hampered by the rush so that something comes back to bite us later, does it really matter as much as you're suggesting?

 

[Yer Blues]

Historically I think it’s fair to say Estate Agents and Property developers owning football clubs has not gone well and generally they’ve been more interested in the money to be made from the property than the well being of the football club. A generalisation I know but the number of stadiums around Essex from my youth that are now housing estates or warehousing as a result of property guys or Estate agents being involved and the clubs either folding or merging makes me very uneasy about this. Local blokes with an attachment to the club through history and extended family sounds a whole lot better proposition to me.

Interesting view and I'm open to changing my mind, but I'm interested in what you said.

Off the top of my head, other than Ron and the bloke at Bury, what other examples of people in property owning clubs not being a good thing can you name?

I'm not saying you specifically, but a lot of people without much knowledge (myself included) have been a but seduced by the shiny shiny of Kimura .

I think anyone with a successful business pedigree willing to get involved in the omnishambles of our club, deserve the chance to make an offer and if that takes time, we have to accept that.

 

[AlfaShrimper]

Respectfully, it's not a disaster.

Will it undoubtedly affect this upcoming season? Yes.

Is it time to look at the bigger picture, where we have a sustainable football club and have the chance to be optimistic for years to come? Yes more so.

We as fans need to start looking at the bigger picture.

Yes, this season might be a bit ****. Yeah, bridge might not hang around forever.

But the bigger prize is having a club so support for decades to come, not missing out on Andrew Dallas or 3 largely injured players leaving.

I'm currently 41 with a nearly 16 year old daughter. Should she choose to have children, I want the opportunity to take my grandkids to watch out club.

If it means another rough season on the pitch, so be it.

Whilst I fully agree all I want is a club to support next year.. my concern is again the court case on the 12th. If Ron is ****ing potential buyers around who is to say the don't all walk and we are left with him?

We need a lot of signings at this rate if we lose all out of contract players.

I'm not sure anyone can take a season battling at the wrong end of the league

 

[Jai]

Nobody knows if this new bid is better or worse than the Kimura one.

It seems that people have made their minds up based on a few social media nuggets.

As people have said, there is going to be short term pain but by far the most important thing is the security of the club's long term future.

My significant worry is knowing who makes that decision.

 

[JAL]

Respectfully, it's not a disaster.

Will it undoubtedly affect this upcoming season? Yes.

Is it time to look at the bigger picture, where we have a sustainable football club and have the chance to be optimistic for years to come? Yes more so.

We as fans need to start looking at the bigger picture.

Yes, this season might be a bit ****. Yeah, bridge might not hang around forever.

But the bigger prize is having a club so support for decades to come, not missing out on Andrew Dallas or 3 largely injured players leaving.

I'm currently 41 with a nearly 16 year old daughter. Should she choose to have children, I want the opportunity to take my grandkids to watch out club.

If it means another rough season on the pitch, so be it.

I keep saying this though. In the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

Losing some of our players, having to put up with consolidation next season and pushing back the promotion bid by a season......frustrating, no doubt.

But as long as that cretin and his family is gone, and the sale has been done properly and not hampered by the rush so that something comes back to bite us later, does it really matter as much as you're suggesting?

Intertesing takes but I am not sure I can agree, I want Ron gone as much as the next person but I'm not sure having a rough season due to the length of the sale will do any good for the club. There will be a lot of negativity towards the next ownership (undoubtably, you will not stop certain fans doing this) and I can only think it will affect the squad, potentially lose the management and hurt preperations for even next season as well.

I love the club, and I will be the over the moon to still have one, but we cannot afford to be a club to settle for anything mediocre for the next season or two.